In a blistering decision today,Monday, Aug,12,2013, Judge Shira A, Scheindlin found that the New York City Police had developed a policy of indirect racial profiling that targeted young minority men for stops. and had been stopping and frisking innocent people in the street without any objective reason to suspect them of wrongdoing.
Read more here: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/13/nyregion/stop-and-frisk-practice-violated-rights-judge-rules.html?_r=0
This unconstitutional violation of young minority men's rights has been going on for quite a while.
It should never have started.
In a blistering decision today,Monday, Aug,12,2013, Judge Shira A, Scheindlin found that the New York City Police had developed a policy of indirect racial profiling that targeted young minority men for stops. and had been stopping and frisking innocent people in the street without any objective reason to suspect them of wrongdoing.
Read more here: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/13/nyregion/stop-and-frisk-practice-violated-rights-judge-rules.html?_r=0
This unconstitutional violation of young minority men's rights has been going on for quite a while.
It should never have started.
In a blistering decision today,Monday, Aug,12,2013, Judge Shira A, Scheindlin found that the New York City Police had developed a policy of indirect racial profiling that targeted young minority men for stops. and had been stopping and frisking innocent people in the street without any objective reason to suspect them of wrongdoing.
Read more here: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/13/nyregion/stop-and-frisk-practice-violated-rights-judge-rules.html?_r=0
This unconstitutional violation of young minority men's rights has been going on for quite a while.
It should never have started.
In a blistering decision today,Monday, Aug,12,2013, Judge Shira A, Scheindlin found that the New York City Police had developed a policy of indirect racial profiling that targeted young minority men for stops. and had been stopping and frisking innocent people in the street without any objective reason to suspect them of wrongdoing.
Read more here: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/13/nyregion/stop-and-frisk-practice-violated-rights-judge-rules.html?_r=0
This unconstitutional violation of young minority men's rights has been going on for quite a while.
It should never have started.
I agree, but if it gets taken to the SCOTUS, the decision will be over-turned.
I agree - I'm not a big fan of making police work overly easy at the expense of individual freedoms and presumptions of innocence before the law.
It is true that the police may stop and question anyone in the course of their patrolling an area, but the searching aspect of this law is beyond one that is reasonable in a civil society.
I'm not so sure of that - I don't believe there would be five voices on the Supreme Court who'd believe in the direction taking by Mrs. Bloomers in all kinds of NYC bylaws and actions.
It would not be just about NYC. These things happen lots of places and they are not going to say that the police cannot pat down people for safety, and there is no way to draw a bright-line rule "sometimes"
That could be, but I'd almost guarantee that the three women on the Supreme Court and at least two of the conservative men will side with individual liberty in this issue - I'd be shocked if they even took the case. But then, the Obamacare decision shocked me too.
Which two men--the same two who pretty much let the police do whatever the hell they want just as long as drugs were found?
It would seem the real problem was the clumsy approach NYC took to address the problem. According to statistics, 75% of the crimes committed in the city are apparently committed by Blacks and Latino's, so stopping a simililar percentage of people fitting that demographic would appear to make sense.
Unfortunately, it's also a forbidden tactic. It's tough to clean the city of filth.
They are considered safety pat downs which the police are authorized to do--not well-defined but are intended to be limited to making sure you have no weapons on you--not whether you have a dime bag in your underwear. If it doesn't feel like a weapon, then they have gone too far if they want to see what it is IMO.
What about my safety? I think even the safety pat down goes too far. They think I am a criminal they can arrest me then search me otherwise they can piss off.
I was thinking Alito and Scalia - Scalia going the opposite way of Roberts, so it depends - and I should have also included Breyer from the left.
Tell them that and they will.
It would not be just about NYC. These things happen lots of places and they are not going to say that the police cannot pat down people for safety, and there is no way to draw a bright-line rule "sometimes"
In a blistering decision today,Monday, Aug,12,2013, Judge Shira A, Scheindlin found that the New York City Police had developed a policy of indirect racial profiling that targeted young minority men for stops. and had been stopping and frisking innocent people in the street without any objective reason to suspect them of wrongdoing.
Read more here: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/13/nyregion/stop-and-frisk-practice-violated-rights-judge-rules.html?_r=0
This unconstitutional violation of young minority men's rights has been going on for quite a while.
It should never have started.
In a blistering decision today,Monday, Aug,12,2013, Judge Shira A, Scheindlin found that the New York City Police had developed a policy of indirect racial profiling that targeted young minority men for stops. and had been stopping and frisking innocent people in the street without any objective reason to suspect them of wrongdoing.
Read more here: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/13/nyregion/stop-and-frisk-practice-violated-rights-judge-rules.html?_r=0
This unconstitutional violation of young minority men's rights has been going on for quite a while.
It should never have started.
They are considered safety pat downs which the police are authorized to do--not well-defined but are intended to be limited to making sure you have no weapons on you--not whether you have a dime bag in your underwear. If it doesn't feel like a weapon, then they have gone too far if they want to see what it is IMO.
It's sad that it had to come to this but how long should we tolerate a demographic committing such a disproportionate amount of crime?
The have gone to far the second they started patting someone down. It doesn't matter what they are searching for. A search is still a search and it requires a warrant. I seriously doubt these cops have judges in their pockets
If you would like to know why New York City's stop & frisk law is unconstitutional, the judge explains it here: Judge explains why New York
Safety searches are well established and extended in case law. They are not going to abolish them whether you want them to or not.
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