Federal ID Card

[Bullseye]

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hat bar code and magnetic strip can be read nationwide.

And . . .?

 

[Rexedgar]

And . . .?

I didn’t realize I needed to draw you a picture and explain it to you. Your permit is a national ID card.

 

[Bullseye]

I didn’t realize I needed to draw you a picture and explain it to you. Your permit is a national ID card.

Not really - it is honored for certain purposes in most states, but it's not issued by the federal government. Your Social Security card would be closer. Or, for certain purposes my retired military ID. Point being these are issued for certain purposes and uses. A national ID has no other purpose that to identify and track you.

 

[LouC]

What do you suppose is on that bar code?

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The Numbers of The Beast!

 

[Glitch]

What do you suppose is on that bar code?

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I don't need to suppose, I know. The bar code contains the information that you will find on the front of the driver's license, which includes their name, height, weight, color of their eyes, their address, expiration date, and driver's license number.

Once again, social security has absolutely nothing to do with driver's licenses. Nobody's FEDERAL social security number is found on STATE driver's licenses, so don't try to pretend that they are.

 

[Rexedgar]

I don't need to suppose, I know. The bar code contains the information that you will find on the front of the driver's license, which includes their name, height, weight, color of their eyes, their address, expiration date, and driver's license number.

Once again, social security has absolutely nothing to do with driver's licenses. Nobody's FEDERAL social security number is found on STATE driver's licenses, so don't try to pretend that they are.

Where did I state that?

The fact that the bar code/magnetic stripe can be decoded by any state LE agency makes my point.

 

[Glitch]

Where did I state that?

The fact that the bar code/magnetic stripe can be decoded by any state LE agency makes my point.

They can flip the driver's license over and read it directly, they don't need to read the bar code/magnetic stripe. Which means you have no point.

 

[RF667799]

I don't need to suppose, I know. The bar code contains the information that you will find on the front of the driver's license, which includes their name, height, weight, color of their eyes, their address, expiration date, and driver's license number.

Once again, social security has absolutely nothing to do with driver's licenses. Nobody's FEDERAL social security number is found on STATE driver's licenses, so don't try to pretend that they are.

Not true. My SS# is on my driver's license.

 

[yankintx]

Are you an employee of the US government?


I have a few friends who state that they would never submit to a Federal ID card.
I’m just curious how many agree with their stance?

If you have a passport

It's issued by the State Dept

A Federal ID

Can be used as an ID virtually anywhere

 

[Rexedgar]

If you have a passport

It's issued by the State Dept

A Federal ID

Can be used as an ID virtually anywhere

Passports are not required unless, you travel.

 

[Ikari]

What are your thoughts regarding a Federal ID card?

Isn't that what the Real ID Act was essentially all about?

 

[Glitch]

Isn't that what the Real ID Act was essentially all about?

No. The REAL ID Act was Congress exercising their authority under Article IV, Section 1 of the US Constitution to ensure that all the States meet the same requirements with regard to driver's licenses. It is not a federal ID.

 

[molten_dragon]

What are your thoughts regarding a Federal ID card?

As long as it's cheap and readily available I'd be fine with that. I have a social security card and a passport already so it's not like it would be giving the federal government any additional information they don't already have. That said, I also don't really see any need to switch from state-provided IDs to federal IDs. The benefits would be very minor.

 

[Glitch]

As long as it's cheap and readily available I'd be fine with that. I have a social security card and a passport already so it's not like it would be giving the federal government any additional information they don't already have. That said, I also don't really see any need to switch from state-provided IDs to federal IDs. The benefits would be very minor.

Even when such a federal ID card is a direct violation of the US Constitution? Why am I not surprised that this would be the answer from the left?

 

[Rexedgar]

No. The REAL ID Act was Congress exercising their authority under Article IV, Section 1 of the US Constitution to ensure that all the States meet the same requirements with regard to driver's licenses. It is not a federal ID.

One of these two things cannot be true.

 

[Ikari]

No. The REAL ID Act was Congress exercising their authority under Article IV, Section 1 of the US Constitution to ensure that all the States meet the same requirements with regard to driver's licenses. It is not a federal ID.

Yeah, but they adhere to federal rules and are somewhat standardized. States may issue IDs and Drivers licenses, but under the same rules. Functionally it's the same thing.

 

[LouC]

I don't need to suppose, I know. The bar code contains the information that you will find on the front of the driver's license, which includes their name, height, weight, color of their eyes, their address, expiration date, and driver's license number.

Once again, social security has absolutely nothing to do with driver's licenses. Nobody's FEDERAL social security number is found on STATE driver's licenses, so don't try to pretend that they are.

Good post.

At one point, a long time ago, in one state I lived in the DL # was my SSN.

Actually in 1996 at least 29 States had as person's SSN on their DL.

There was a provision of the 1996 Immigration Reform Act that was to require all DL's to have a persons SSN, visually readable, on them by the year 2000.

That didn't happen, and in 2004 President Bush and Congress, with passed legislation, that he signed into law, made it illegal to have one's SSN on their DL's.

Thank goodness for that.

 

[ModernDiogenes]

What are your thoughts regarding a Federal ID card?

Do you have a Social Security card?

How about a passport or a “Real ID” drivers license?

What do you think that is?

 

[ModernDiogenes]

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Once again, social security has absolutely nothing to do with driver's licenses. Nobody's FEDERAL social security number is found on STATE driver's licenses, so don't try to pretend that they are.

Actually, that isn’t quite true.

Any of the states that participate in the federal “Real ID” drivers license program, which is mandatory by May 2025, your SS# is part of that. BTW, all states require it on the form you fill out to get and renew your DL so its already cross indexed in the system. It’s just not on your DL where you can see it.

 

[Rexedgar]

Do you have a Social Security card?

How about a passport or a “Real ID” drivers license?

What do you think that is?

Follow the thread?

 

[ModernDiogenes]

Follow the thread?

I have. It’s cut and dry. It’s another thread talking about something that’s either relatively plain and straight forward (like how you ethically treat children), attempting to make it far less so, or existing for decades upon decades and acting like it just showed up yesterday (like democratic socialism that’s existed in this nation large scale since the 1930’s).

We have federal ID. A number is issued to every citizen and legal immigrant in this nation. Further, if you plain to travel anywhere outside this nation you have an passport.

Even still further, if you plain to travel within this nation by air you’ll need a “Real ID” drivers license, run by the various states but a federal program, after it becomes mandatory in May of 2025. Many states already have it available. I have one. I don’t need a passport to go to Canada or Mexico, the Caribbean or Bermuda to visit. My “Real ID” drivers license suffices.

It exists. It’s a done deal.

 

[Rexedgar]

I have. It’s cut and dry. It’s another thread talking about something that’s either relatively plain and straight forward (like how you ethically treat children), attempting to make it far less so, or existing for decades upon decades and acting like it just showed up yesterday (like democratic socialism that’s existed in this nation large scale since the 1930’s).

We have federal ID. A number is issued to every citizen and legal immigrant in this nation. Further, if you plain to travel anywhere outside this nation you have an passport.

Even still further, if you plain to travel within this nation by air you’ll need a “Real ID” drivers license, run by the various states but a federal program, after it becomes mandatory in May of 2025. Many states already have it available. I have one. I don’t need a passport to go to Canada or Mexico, the Caribbean or Bermuda to visit. My “Real ID” drivers license suffices.

It exists. It’s a done deal.

Try # 10 again…..

 

[ModernDiogenes]

Try # 10 again…..

Ok, but your asking about something that’s a done deal.

How do you feel about a drivers license being required to drive? Why ask, it’s been that way for a very long time.

If what your saying is, “I don’t get all the talk about federal ID. We’ve had it for many decades.”, why not just say that?

If what you’re really asking is, “Is a federal ID proper and should we continue it.”, why not just say it that way?

 

[Rexedgar]

Ok, but your asking about something that’s a done deal.

How do you feel about a drivers license being required to drive? Why ask, it’s been that way for a very long time.

If what your saying is, “I don’t get all the talk about federal ID. We’ve had it for many decades.”, why not just say that?

If what you’re really asking is, “Is a federal ID proper and should we continue it.”, why not just say it that way?

Start a thread any way you want, I’ll do the same, deal?

 

[ettoremathedi]

If everyone had a federal ID submitted by the governmetn tomorrow, republicans would block it as it would make voting easier. Also, automatic registration, I have no idea why politicians(and by that I mean democrats, I kow why republicans are against it) haven't done anything to make it official.
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Everyone should vote. Is a right. And it should be easy. Federal ID, automatic reigstration, so more people can move, and their voices be heard. But somehow that's absurd.