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FDA releases plan to ban menthol in cigarettes, cigars

Phys251 said:
Your posts suggest that African-American smokers will pursue menthol cigarettes no matter what.
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It doesn't suggest that at all.

Fail less
 
RedAkston said:
www.foxnews.com

FDA releases plan to ban menthol in cigarettes, cigars

The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) released its plan to ban menthol cigarettes and flavored cigars on Thursday, saying the actions have the potential to significantly reduce disease and death.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com

Brilliant! "In the name of equity", the FDA is going to target predominantly African-American smokers.
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Sorry dude, but I don't get that implication.

Menthol and Cigarettes | Smoking & Tobacco Use | CDC

Learn about menthol in cigarettes, including the danger they pose, and the groups of people at a high risk of getting tobacco-related disease.
www.cdc.gov www.cdc.gov
 
Phys251 said:
Really? Then there should be no problem banning menthol in cigarettes.
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Why just ban menthol and not all cigarettes then? Do you really think that African-American's won't see this as an attack on them? Every one that I've talked to about this see it that way.
 
RedAkston said:
Why just ban menthol and not all cigarettes then? Do you really think that African-American's won't see this as an attack on them? Every one that I've talked to about this see it that way.
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Getting fewer African-Americans to smoke is an attack on them? That sounds like something the tobacco lobby would say.
 
Lovebug said:
Sorry dude, but I don't get that implication.

Menthol and Cigarettes | Smoking & Tobacco Use | CDC

Learn about menthol in cigarettes, including the danger they pose, and the groups of people at a high risk of getting tobacco-related disease.
www.cdc.gov www.cdc.gov
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From your link:

Different groups of people—like some racial/ethnic minorities, LGBT people, people with mental health conditions, etc.—are more likely to smoke menthol cigarettes than the rest of the population. This is particularly true for African Americans.
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Phys251 said:
Getting fewer African-Americans to smoke is an attack on them? That sounds like something the tobacco lobby would say.
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It's an attack on those who are currently smokers. Again, why just ban menthol and not all cigarettes? You seem to be missing the point, as usual.
 
RedAkston said:
It's an attack on those who are currently smokers.
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How? You haven't answered that question. It sounds like something the tobacco lobby would say.

RedAkston said:
Again, why just ban menthol and not all cigarettes? You seem to be missing the point, as usual.
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I didn't implement the policy, nor do I have the data to back it up. So you're barking up the wrong tree.
 
Phys251 said:
How? You haven't answered that question. It sounds like something the tobacco lobby would say.
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I have answered that question, you just didn't like the answer.
Phys251 said:
I didn't implement the policy, nor do I have the data to back it up. So you're barking up the wrong tree.
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So you should have stayed out of the conversation since you have nothing to do with it and you don't understand the data.
 
RedAkston said:
I have answered that question, you just didn't like the answer.
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No, you didn't. Taking menthol away from cigarettes is in no way an "attack" on anyone but the tobacco industry.

RedAkston said:
So you should have stayed out of the conversation since you have nothing to do with it and you don't understand the data.
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You're the one who started this race-baiting thread without any burden of proof supplied.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Exactly. There are hardly any nefarious underground markets supplying illegal (aka federally banned) recreational drugs. ;)
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No shit. I read his comment like five times and still couldn't believe my eyes.
 
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RedAkston said:
Why just ban menthol and not all cigarettes then? Do you really think that African-American's won't see this as an attack on them? Every one that I've talked to about this see it that way.
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Oh well, if every one you talked to sees it as an attack on them, it must be true!

The government banned lawn darts back in the 1980s. That must have been an attack on everyone who used them.

The FDA has been researching menthol products since 2013. 11 years. You and your black friends think this was started 11 years ago to attack black people?

Lots of black people probably used lead paint too. We should not have banned it because it was an attack on those black people!
 
Grizzly Adams said:
And, in the process, drive the creation of a black market that will get (brown and black) people arrested, incarcerated, and (in the course of the former) subjected to uses of force that the folks currently in power claim are so bad and over trivial matters.

One can't help but wonder why they are creating more trivial matters, and what they expect to be done when people break these new regulations.
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According to the article they will not be enforcing it against people.

The FDA noted that it cannot and will not enforce against individual consumers for the possession or use of menthol cigarettes or flavored cigars.

Should the rules be finalized and implemented, FDA enforcement will only address manufacturers, distributors, wholesalers, importers and retailers who manufacture, distribute or sell such products within the U.S. that are not in compliance with applicable requirements.

Notably, state and local law enforcement agencies do not independently enforce the Federal Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act and do not – and cannot – take enforcement actions against any violation of FDA’s tobacco authorities, including its regulations, on the FDA’s behalf.
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Phys251 said:
Getting fewer African-Americans to smoke is an attack on them? That sounds like something the tobacco lobby would say.
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Phys251 wants to follow it up with more policing in Black neighborhoods to get fewer African-Americans to commit crimes.

Safety first!
 
americanwoman said:
According to the article they will not be enforcing it against people.
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" manufacturers, distributors, wholesalers, importers and retailers who manufacture, distribute or sell such products within the U.S. that are not in compliance with applicable requirements." are people. Hundreds of thousands of people.
 
Grizzly Adams said:
And, in the process, drive the creation of a black market that will get (brown and black) people arrested, incarcerated, and (in the course of the former) subjected to uses of force that the folks currently in power claim are so bad and over trivial matters.

One can't help but wonder why they are creating more trivial matters, and what they expect to be done when people break these new regulations.
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Not really, because no one has the production capacity to offer menthol cigarettes, a mass produced product, for public sale. Maybe if menthols are still sold in Canada or Mexico people will bring them back and smugglers will fill car trunks of them, but it won’t be a mass business
 
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