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FBI releases Clinton investigation documents

Quazimodo said:
Thanks! I'm old and not computer savvy. How do I get to Bing?
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Age is no excuse!! :lol:

Don't sweat it, though...even some young people are not computer savvy.

Anyway, it depends on your browser, but they all have a setting in which to select your default search engine. I use Opera and the setting looks like this:


2016-04-9--18-57-12.webp


You should be able to find something similar in whichever browser you are using.
 
Roadvirus said:
Billy and Hilly got illegal donations from China. So, if Trump ends up in prison, so should they.
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To be clear, I'm not advocating for a prison sentence for Trump, since there's no evidence he's actually received foreign donations.

But, I'm also not the one saying that the FBI director should be fired for not prosecuting Clinton.
 
Gaea said:
That's because he's never been in a position to be able to make that sort of mistake.

You really think he won't make mistakes that cost lives if he becomes president?
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shrug...

No way of knowing.

However, Hillary has an extensive history of costing people their lives around the world. We DO know for sure with her.

Trump is still the lesser of evils.
 
Mycroft said:
No details in that article. Typical hit job.

On the other hand, Paul McCartney was quoted as pretty much admitting that he gave Hillary money. (for those who don't know, he's not an American citizen)

Paul McCartney Caught Doing Something Illegal With Hillary - Fury News
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So, a question for you. Given that the Clintons are already familiar with campaign finance laws, how likely do you think it is that Clinton would risk jail time just to receive a few extra dollars in her campaign fund?

Does that strike you as likely? Or do you think that she doesn't care, because she's above the law?

I'm trying to understand your logic here.
 
Gaea said:
So, a question for you. Given that the Clintons are already familiar with campaign finance laws, how likely do you think it is that Clinton would risk jail time just to receive a few extra dollars in her campaign fund?

Does that strike you as likely? Or do you think that she doesn't care, because she's above the law?

I'm trying to understand your logic here.
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She also has a history of leaving such "minor" stuff in the hands of her "capable" staff...which ends up getting her into trouble.

My point is that your link has no meat to it...and no details. Heck, it COULD be just a matter of someone making a complaint with no substance to it.

In any case, I don't think anything will come of either candidate's alleged financing violation.
 
Gaea said:
You mean, besides the fact he (reluctantly) supported the war in Iraq?

And supported the Libyan intervention?

On what basis do you think Trump wouldn't make all the stupid decisions that Clinton undoubtedly would make?
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I have never said I think Trump wouldn't make all the stupid mistakes that Clinton has. I'm say, we don't know. I'm also saying that with Hillary, we DO know.

Again...lesser of evils.


Look...I really dislike having to repeat myself...especially when you completely ignore me when I say things the first time and when you attempt to twist my statement into something I didn't say. Either quit that nasty little tactic or get dismissed.
 
Mycroft said:
I have never said I think Trump wouldn't make all the stupid mistakes that Clinton has. I'm say, we don't know. I'm also saying that with Hillary, we DO know.

Again...lesser of evils.


Look...I really dislike having to repeat myself...especially when you completely ignore me when I say things the first time and when you attempt to twist my statement into something I didn't say. Either quit that nasty little tactic or get dismissed.
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You said: "we don't know."

I'm saying: "We do know."

We're screwed either way.
 
Gaea said:
You said: "we don't know."

I'm saying: "We do know."

We're screwed either way.
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Really?? You DO know??

Do you have evidence that Trump has ever cast a vote for war? That he has ever initiated American action toward war?

Do you want the evidence that Hillary has done those things?
 
Absentglare said:
The FBI doesn't know that. They have no information on emails they failed to recover.
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Only if you ignore what the FBI says.

The FBI also discovered several thousand work-related e-mails that were not in the group of 30,000 that were returned by Secretary Clinton to State in 2014. We found those additional e-mails in a variety of ways. Some had been deleted over the years and we found traces of them on devices that supported or were connected to the private e-mail domain. Others we found by reviewing the archived government e-mail accounts of people who had been government employees at the same time as Secretary Clinton, including high-ranking officials at other agencies, people with whom a Secretary of State might naturally correspond.

With respect to the thousands of e-mails we found that were not among those produced to State, agencies have concluded that three of those were classified at the time they were sent or received, one at the Secret level and two at the Confidential level.

you seriously didn't read anything the FBi said did you?
 
Moot said:
No..I said none of the emails she sent or received were marked classified. So what law did she break? Link please.
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yet the FBI says the opposite prove they are lying.

110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received.
so they were marked classified at the time they were sent and received.

again prove the FBI is lying.

the only liar here is Clinton and no amount of dishonesty will get her out of it except for the people
that spout the same dishonesty but we know the truth.

she should be sitting in a cell awaiting trial for breaking the law.

the law about the handling of classified material and the destruction of said material.
that is what law she broke it is pretty obvious so why can't you stop being dishonest?
 
Gaea said:
Not sure if this is a case of confirmation bias or what, but I'll highlight the relevant part.



Translation: We were one cog of a giant anti-Gaddafi operation. We didn't initiate it, we joined in after other countries had already become involved.
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Whether a single cog in a machine or not, becoming involved in it, supporting it with air strikes, breaking it and then ending up owning it, as SoS Powell stated (yes, the same thing applied to that situation as well), still doesn't 'explain away' Hillary's bad judgement in the matter, especially if the previous administration was excoriated for essentially the same thing in Iraq.

Yes, United Nations Security Council Resolution 1973 comes into play, but what of all the diplomatic prowess of Clinton to avoid such an obvious mistake in judgement with equally obvious calamitous result, the destabilization of Libya, expansion of ISIS, and yet more Islamic militants running amok killing people in that country and essentially a failed state.

Why not pass on Gaddafi and Libya at least for now (at least at that point in time), until the over all Middle East situation were a bit more stable.

Was it / is it all worth it? Given the other instabilities in the region, prudence would have clearly dictated to leave this one pass for now. A how many fronted war do you want to be fighting?

If you are of the position that Bush's engagement in Iraq was an obviously bad idea, I don't see how you can excuse Hillary for Libya.
 
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jmotivator said:
I was going to post that as well. She is either the stupidest person to ever run for president or the most corrupt, either way she should never come close to being president, and Comey should be fired.

But then we know she is playing stupid because she knew enough to instruct her subordinates on how to strip a memo of classification markings.

I mean consider how willfully stupid Clinton's supporters must be. Here she claims that she though (C) was an alphabetical market of a paragraph WHEN THERE IS NO (A) OR (B) MARKKINGS!

To accept that she is ignorant of classification markings requires you to also assume she doesn't know the effing alphabet.
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They KNOW she is corrupt. They DO NOT CARE. The person who voted for and still will vote for Hilary DOES NOT CARE a lick about what she has done. They don't care what she will do. They don't care that she has been paid off. They don't care she is bought and paid for. It is all irrelevant. The only thing they have in front of their eyes is Trump.

It is completely irrelevant how morally and ethically corrupt she is as a human being. They just want more nanny state bull****, welfare, anti gun, and they have sucked on the liberal koolaid for so long that they honestly BELIEVE she is going to be a wonderful president and somehow STOP being bought and paid for.

Sadly the Republican Party let the country down by voting for trump. And the liberal media KNEW that and they just gave him as much free press as he wanted so he could have that rope and hang himself. And I'm not completely convinced that he IS NOT a plant by Hillary Rotten Clinton herself. He was a democrat after all.

The only good thing about her being president is we can finally dump her corrupt power hungry criminal ass out of politics for good. And hopefully the added scrutiny will finally burn her ass forever.


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ludin said:
So you can't prove that the FBI is lying thanks for admitting it.
I know the truth hurts but it will make you more informed later on.
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I never said the FBI was lying.....you did.
 
Mycroft said:
Really?? You DO know??

Do you have evidence that Trump has ever cast a vote for war? That he has ever initiated American action toward war?

Do you want the evidence that Hillary has done those things?
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I don't think this is going to go anywhere if you feel compelled to create strawmen.
 
eohrnberger said:
Whether a single cog in a machine or not, becoming involved in it, supporting it with air strikes, breaking it and then ending up owning it, as SoS Powell stated (yes, the same thing applied to that situation as well), still doesn't 'explain away' Hillary's bad judgement in the matter, especially if the previous administration was excoriated for essentially the same thing in Iraq.

Yes, United Nations Security Council Resolution 1973 comes into play, but what of all the diplomatic prowess of Clinton to avoid such an obvious mistake in judgement with equally obvious calamitous result, the destabilization of Libya, expansion of ISIS, and yet more Islamic militants running amok killing people in that country and essentially a failed state.

Why not pass on Gaddafi and Libya at least for now (at least at that point in time), until the over all Middle East situation were a bit more stable.

Was it / is it all worth it? Given the other instabilities in the region, prudence would have clearly dictated to leave this one pass for now. A how many fronted war do you want to be fighting?
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Honestly, I'm not convinced that it was a mistake to work together with our NATO allies against Gaddafi. As I recall, all of the Republican politicians were very vocal in their support as well.

If you are of the position that Bush's engagement in Iraq was an obviously bad idea, I don't see how you can excuse Hillary for Libya.
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Last I checked, Clinton/Obama did not create a civil war in Libya by getting involved there. If anything, they helped speed the conclusion to the war by becoming involved.

The invasion of Iraq CREATED a civil war, which has resulted in the creation of IS and cost hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilian lives (along with over 3,000 of our own soldiers).

You should be ashamed of yourself for treating the two as comparable, but I'm sure you aren't, because you are clearly among the right wing apologists.
 
ludin said:
yet the FBI says the opposite prove they are lying.

110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received.
so they were marked classified at the time they were sent and received.

again prove the FBI is lying.

the only liar here is Clinton and no amount of dishonesty will get her out of it except for the people
that spout the same dishonesty but we know the truth.

she should be sitting in a cell awaiting trial for breaking the law.

the law about the handling of classified material and the destruction of said material.
that is what law she broke it is pretty obvious so why can't you stop being dishonest?
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See post #246

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...nvestigation-documents-25.html#post1066277263

I highly suggest you read the FBI report.
 
blackjack50 said:
They KNOW she is corrupt. They DO NOT CARE. The person who voted for and still will vote for Hilary DOES NOT CARE a lick about what she has done. They don't care what she will do. They don't care that she has been paid off. They don't care she is bought and paid for. It is all irrelevant. The only thing they have in front of their eyes is Trump.

It is completely irrelevant how morally and ethically corrupt she is as a human being. They just want more nanny state bull****, welfare, anti gun, and they have sucked on the liberal koolaid for so long that they honestly BELIEVE she is going to be a wonderful president and somehow STOP being bought and paid for.

Sadly the Republican Party let the country down by voting for trump. And the liberal media KNEW that and they just gave him as much free press as he wanted so he could have that rope and hang himself. And I'm not completely convinced that he IS NOT a plant by Hillary Rotten Clinton herself. He was a democrat after all.

The only good thing about her being president is we can finally dump her corrupt power hungry criminal ass out of politics for good. And hopefully the added scrutiny will finally burn her ass forever.


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Oh my... :roll:
 
Moot said:
I never said the FBI was lying.....you did.
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still trying to be dishonest I see.
hmm I guess you didn't read the fbi report.
 
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