FBI: No evidence the Orlando killer was gay or used gay apps

[Henrin]

LOL! What's the proof to back up any story? No one has any way to prove that he was actually radicalized by and did this for ISIS

There is actually evidence he was radicalized. :shrug:

Anyway, like it or not the FBI would actually have to find evidence that the sexual encounter happened, which of course they can't do.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Let us know when you have better EVIDENCE for another conclusion. Otherwise you're just pulling this out of your ass.

Human nature and logic is my currency pal. If you need the video before you can believe anything is real then I feel sorry for you, that would make you a lost cause.

 

[Top Cat]

Human nature and logic is my currency pal.

Time to file for bankruptcy like your idol.

 

[Tanngrisnir]

No, you just don't like the reason. You refuse to accept the reason. But when a killer calls 911 and tells the operator WHY HE'S KILLING PEOPLE, that's a perfectly credible reason to accept him at his word.

But you've got a political agenda so you're going to pretend that he must have been lying. The problem here is you.

Newp. Not even remotely. The problem here is when simple people look at something and assume that everything they desperately need to be true is, in reality....wait for it...TRUE!

You believe things readily and greedily. Perfect demographic for RW media, otherwise known as a 'sucker'.

Good luck with that.

 

[Tanngrisnir]

There is actually evidence he was radicalized. :shrug:

Anyway, like it or not the FBI would actually have to find evidence that the sexual encounter happened, which of course they can't do.

There's actually evidence that he preferred men sexually. :roll:

Yeah, the FBI actually can do that.

 

[JasperL]

It's shocking that the liberal elite that run the media would want to throw sand in our eyes with this misdirection. Almost worked, and it will STILL work with the 20% of the people who are desperate to ignore our war with Islam. They will believe it even after the lie has been proven and well broadcast through the collective by our most credible voices (AKA NOT owned by the corporate class....obviously).

THey will believe anything that gets them to where their fantasy wants to go.

We're at war with "Islam"? How does that work, exactly? It's a religion, not a people, so who do we need to kill? Should we arrest all those Muslims here in the U.S. and hold them as prisoners of war since we are at war with their religion? How do we win a war against a religion - forcefully convert them all, reeducation camps maybe after we blow up all the mosques?

 

[Tanngrisnir]

Human nature and logic is my currency pal. If you need the video before you can believe anything is real then I feel sorry for you, that would make you a lost cause.

Huh. That's an odd thing to assert.

From what I can tell, you and logic remain tragically, and hilariously, unacquainted.

 

[Absentglare]

and the propaganda when he was younger came from his taliban sympathizer parent, and they differ from ISIS when it comes to gays how exactly?

ISIS will never get a free pass on this

The point i've been trying to make is that the targeted slaughter of homosexuals is fact, motives beyond that are uncertain.

Further, such hatred of homosexuals is unacceptable regardless of source, may it be ISIS or KKK or whatever.

 

[Casper]

Officials: No evidence Orlando gunman was gay


wow, who could have possibly predicted this. Oh wait, I said it would turn out to be BS from the start. The left was so hoping it was true so they could use it as his motive. looking back on the media's coverage it's clear they were pushing(hard) to make that the narrative.

so now, FINALLY, will the left come forward and admit this was a terrorist act and that Mateen's ONLY MOTIVE was islamic extremism? just kidding, of course they won't. will probably try and ignore this story all together. it's time for them to join the rest of us in reality.

Nope, just because he was not a closet gay does not automatically mean it was a terrorist act, the guy has had anger issues since grade school, meaning he slipped through the cracks when it comes to getting mental health help.

 

[Absentglare]

Nobody said ISIS terrorism, even though Mateen did swear allegiance to ISIS. ISIS is not the only Muslim group out there that commits acts of terrorism you know.

The reason i question his sincere commitment to ISIS is because he also pledged allegiance to Hezbollah, one of ISIS' enemies.

 

[coldjoint]

I can't speak for your homeland security...I also know that this specialist believes in a very radical pro active anti terrorist approach

one day at a time

one person at a time

doctors without borders have no problem working amoungst Muslims, why...because they have earned their respect

we have to look at this in a big picture way, if this comes down to who has the bigger stick....we are squashed already

Really I guess all the polio doctors do not work for doctors without borders. Islamists killed quite a few trying to vaccinate children. And Muslims only respect Muslims if they are devout. Islamists are devout.

 

[JasperL]

The lefts pyramid of identity politics is on display with muslims clearly on top of gays. They'd rather the killer be gay instead of muslim. What a putrid ideology of identity and where it leads. It reminds me of when that Salon writer said he hoped the Boston bombers turned out to be white.

Interesting straw man...

FWIW, it appears there is no doubt he was Muslim, and we don't know yet if he was gay, closeted gay, had gay tendencies, just hated gays, or targeted gays because of some other factor such as convenience and if not gays, some other nightclub would have done just as well.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Huh. That's an odd thing to assert.

From what I can tell, you and logic remain tragically, and hilariously, unacquainted.

We all need to make our own calls in life.

Some of us are right.

Some are wrong.

 

[_Sal]

Really I guess all the polio doctors do not work for doctors without borders. Islamists killed quite a few trying to vaccinate children. And Muslims only respect Muslims if they are devout. Islamists are devout.

wtf is a polio doctor and do you even know what doctors without borders is about?

you keep guessing and here you are once again with ridiculous generalizations

 

[Top Cat]

We all need to make our own calls in life.

Some of us are right.

Some are wrong.

And some of us are wrong more often like yourself.

 

[Henrin]

There's actually evidence that he preferred men sexually. :roll:

Yeah, the FBI actually can do that.

You mean like his child and his two wives? Oh wait, those are cases where it's pretty obvious he actually had sexual relations with people that are women. My bad.

Where is your evidence that he had sex with that man?

This feels like a rape case where you have a woman saying she was raped, but has nothing to prove her case.

 

[coldjoint]

wtf is a polio doctor and do you even know what doctors without borders is about?

you keep guessing and here you are once again with ridiculous generalizations

A doctor is a doctor, they have all heard of polio. My point was they were killed for trying to help eradicate polio by Islamists.

And of course I know about doctors without borders, truly selfless people.

 

[Hawkeye10]

And some of us are wrong more often like yourself.

Not according to my life experience, which is what Zen teaches matters the most.




ARGUMENT REJECTED WITH AUTHORITY

 

[coldjoint]

And some of us are wrong more often like yourself.

Catching anything?

 

[Top Cat]

Not according to my life experience, which is what Zen teaches matters the most.




ARGUMENT REJECTED WITH AUTHORITY

You are a Trump supporter. The only authority you have is to clean the bathrooms.

 

[Hawkeye10]

You are a Trump supporter. The only authority you have is to clean the bathrooms.

1.7/10 tops.

This is boring.

If you want to talk to me go back to the thread topic.

 

[JasperL]

Hit em where it hurts, and get the most free media you can....

Imperative: Pick your(F) victims wisely.

:idea:

EDIT: This is just basic common sense.

No PHD required.

What's with(F) the(F) stuff(F)?

And the 9/11 attackers didn't target gays, and if I recall correctly, no one cared when all those non-gays were killed, so great point about terrorists needing to pick their targets wisely. Heck, we'd all be yawning if he'd shot up an NFL or college football game or maybe another school. No one cares about kids...

 

[_Sal]

A doctor is a doctor, they have all heard of polio.

a doctor isn't just a doctor which is precisely my point about this whole issue....you want to generalize every damn thing...

My point was they were killed for trying to help eradicate polio by Islamists.

so what?

And of course I know about doctors without borders, truly selfless people.

THEY are the answer to terrorism

 

[Hawkeye10]

What's with(F) the(F) stuff(F)?

And the 9/11 attackers didn't target gays, and if I recall correctly, no one cared when all those non-gays were killed, so great point about terrorists needing to pick their targets wisely. Heck, we'd all be yawning if he'd shot up an NFL or college football game or maybe another school. No one cares about kids...

Means figuratively...I am trying to keep my nose clean, I have radical ideas and high ideals and I got thrown out of my last home after 8 years of providing great content, so I try to speak as honestly and as clearly as I can while avoiding being considered insulting till such time as I want to insult someone.... dont do it unless you mean it, and then do it well my Grandpa Crozier taught me as a young boy on his farm in Scratch County MI.

I am glad that I could clear this up for you.

Have a great evening.

 

[coldjoint]

a doctor isn't just a doctor which is precisely my point about this whole issue....you want to generalize every damn thing...

so what?

THEY are the answer to terrorism

That says it all.