look up the definition of self-respect ... that ain't it.
First of all I don't believe that prison is a deterrent and secondly I am certain it does not rehabilitate. Think about it for a minute, does it make sense to take a boy (because these are boys) who were raised in a violent environment and put him in a more violent environment to try to keep him from being violent? I just don't see the logic there and that approach seems to put more of an emphasis on the punishment then the rehabilitation, which is pretty short term and self serving thinking. Chances are that these kids practice violence because they learned that it was necessary or expected, why not teach them something different. Why not arm them with new information and emotional and social tools so that they can have a different outcome in their lives and we benefit by having an individual better equipped to be a productive member of society? I am not saying that they do not need to be punished for what they did, they should be. I am suggesting that we think more constructively about how to solve this problem in the long term instead of make ourselves feel vindicated and stopping at that.
As I said - it's infinitely harder to re-learn than it is to learn.
Could the kids be saved? Quite possibly. Would it be worth our time and money? Probably not. Kids like that are more burden than value, because of the time and effort needed. Some people just cannot be reached...and I think anyone who performs deeds this blatant, violent, and malicious - regardless of age - fit that bill.
Everyone wants to be compassionate and demand it from everyone else. Everyone thinks that it's okay to write a blank check for anyone and anything if it "helps". Eventually, reality and fiscal responsibility sets in and you realize that these kids are probably best off six feet under. Hell, probably the parents too.
... no confusion here ... they've been taught to so love themselves that they can do what they want, that it's cool to do it, and that they're entitled to do it because of their circumstances.You seem to be confusing love with false pride, which is a product of ego.
Okay ... so you don't buy the "lacking self-respect" argument? ... fine ... it applies to the "something lacking in their lives" argument as well.
We can just bottom line this and simply acknowledge that they've learned that they can avoid their own guilt by exploiting that of Liberal society.
Well surprise surprise surprise....we are gonna just have to agree to disagree. Because I do think it's worth it. Think of the ripple effect socially and fiscally and even economically of redirecting one person. Think of the father who does not leave their children, who teaches them responsibility who holds down a job. How much savings does that one successfully redirected person generate within their lifetime alone. Then think about the generational impact of that.
Noun
S:dignity, self-respect, self-regard, self-worth (the quality of being worthy of esteem or respect) "it was beneath his dignity to cheat"; "showed his true dignity when under pressure"
self-re·spect (s lf r -sp kt )
n.
Due respect for oneself, one's character, and one's conduct.
self-respect
n
a proper sense of one's own dignity and integrity
self-respectful , self-respecting adj
self′-respect′
n.
proper esteem or regard for the dignity of one's character.
what do you suggest pat the kids on the head tell them it is not their fault they are a victim of society they are not responsible for their actions and send them on their way so next time they actually kill some one?
The problem we have in prisons we let them loose to mingle with other violent inmates. what needs to be done is one person per cell eat in their cell and 1 hour alone outside for exercise this way they are not influenced by other violent criminals
if they cant be put in a social environment with out being violent then don't put them in a social environment
That's called a dialect. Only an ignorant person's mind would be blown. Are you proud of being ignorant? (rhetorical question, by the way)
Actually it's a double negative saying that he son has always been a bad person. Perhaps it's a Freudian slip.
Bullets are pretty cheap.
When that is from the parents, what do you expect the child to be like? No matter the color, I have heard whites talk just like that down here.
don't just tell us there are lots of things which could be done
tell us what specific conditions should be imposed on the perps to turn their lives around
A negative times an odd number is still negative. A triple negative doesn't change the meaning, while a double negative does. Mind thoroughly blown.
You are painting with an exceedingly large brush BubbaG
while it may be ebonic usage, we know what he meant
Right ... the term refers to oneself not actions against others.
Not funny. Only because I know you can do better than that
1. ain't
2. never
3. no
triple negative.
I am 6' and 215 lbs. And usually armed. So raping me is going to be a tough nut to crack.
Yes I know math. But its still bad grammar.
How about some morality and empathy? Is that too much to ask?Yes, and if one has real self-respect, his actions will not be destructive to others. Did you miss the part about dignity and actions?
"My son ain't never been no bad person. Holy****. That's like a triple negative right there. Mind blown.
How about some morality and empathy? Is that too much to ask?
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