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I'm not clear on what your arguing for?From United Press International
Farm bill includes billions aimed at keeping dairy industry afloat
EVANSVILLE, Ind., Dec. 27 (UPI) -- With years of low milk prices driving American dairy farmers out of business, the federal government plans to pour billions of dollars into new support programs.
The goal of the Dairy Margin Protection Program -- part of the 2018 farm bill signed into law Dec. 20 -- is to guarantee that farmers earn a certain amount for their milk. If farmers' earnings drop below a minimum threshold, the government will cover the difference.
"The program looks to be very generous," said Andrew Novakovic, a professor of agricultural economics at Cornell University. "The money should help [farmers] keep even with bills and maybe catch up a bit."
This is welcome news to struggling farmers, many of whom have not made any money since milk prices dropped in 2014, Novakovic said.
COMMENT:-
In most of the world payments by a government to a national industry that will enable that industry to sell its products at less than the cost of production are known as "subsidies". Those "subsidies" are almost universally considered as complete legal justification for the imposition of "duties/tariffs" on the product to protect against "dumping".
How this will impact the absolutely massive 0.3% increase in the share of the Canadian milk market that Mr. Trump achieved by his stunningly brilliant negotiations on NAFTA 2.0 is yet to be determined.
Don't bet that the impact will be beneficial to American milk producers.
I'm not clear on what your arguing for?
Higher milk prices?
Letting dairy farms go under?
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Typical strawman nonsense.I see you are quite ok with Trump picking winners and losers as well as subsidizing his trade wars. What a good liberal you have become.
I'm not clear on what your arguing for?
Higher milk prices?
Letting dairy farms go under?
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Typical strawman nonsense.
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Know how America sees Chinese steel? Heavily subsidized, over-produced, inferior product dumped onto a foreign market?
That's how American dairy is seen by the rest of the world. Overproduced, government subsidized, hormone-treated and dumped at artificial (government-subsidized) prices on foreign markets.
From United Press International
Farm bill includes billions aimed at keeping dairy industry afloat
EVANSVILLE, Ind., Dec. 27 (UPI) -- With years of low milk prices driving American dairy farmers out of business, the federal government plans to pour billions of dollars into new support programs.
The goal of the Dairy Margin Protection Program -- part of the 2018 farm bill signed into law Dec. 20 -- is to guarantee that farmers earn a certain amount for their milk. If farmers' earnings drop below a minimum threshold, the government will cover the difference.
"The program looks to be very generous," said Andrew Novakovic, a professor of agricultural economics at Cornell University. "The money should help [farmers] keep even with bills and maybe catch up a bit."
This is welcome news to struggling farmers, many of whom have not made any money since milk prices dropped in 2014, Novakovic said.
COMMENT:-
In most of the world payments by a government to a national industry that will enable that industry to sell its products at less than the cost of production are known as "subsidies". Those "subsidies" are almost universally considered as complete legal justification for the imposition of "duties/tariffs" on the product to protect against "dumping".
How this will impact the absolutely massive 0.3% increase in the share of the Canadian milk market that Mr. Trump achieved by his stunningly brilliant negotiations on NAFTA 2.0 is yet to be determined.
Don't bet that the impact will be beneficial to American milk producers.
So wait... I'm confused.
What we want to do?
End the American Dairy industry? That what we are cheering for right now?
I'm not clear on what your arguing for?
Higher milk prices?
Letting dairy farms go under?
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I thought you guys were for "letting the market decide" and that Trade wars were good?
So if Trade wars are good and you want the market to decide, why does Trump need to subsidize anything. That's libertarian logic right?
I thought you guys were for "letting the market decide" and that Trade wars were good?
So if Trade wars are good and you want the market to decide, why does Trump need to subsidize anything. That's libertarian logic right?
The market decided that it was best to have government guarantee them a tidy profit.
No... I am just curious.
I find it hypocritical that people want to defend illegal immigration because of all the fruit plantations that need their cheap illegal caste status labor to survive.... all the while upset at dairy farm subsidies.
I think the China trade war is 100% legitimate, for countless reasons.... and it really is something the whole nation should be behind. The others.... I have less of an opinion on, I see the arguments from both sides.
Ideally, I would like no subsidies and free trade with Canada. Though.... Canada doesn't want free trade..... and it seems we want subsidies to compensate for it.
No, that would be the dairy farmers that decided that. Unless of course you are saying that the market shouldn't decide? Isn't that anti-libertarian having Trump pick winners and losers via Subsidizing? You guys were ALL against that with Obama.
What is your solutionKnow how America sees Chinese steel? Heavily subsidized, over-produced, inferior product dumped onto a foreign market?
That's how American dairy is seen by the rest of the world. Overproduced, government subsidized, hormone-treated and dumped at artificial (government-subsidized) prices on foreign markets.
No, that would be the dairy farmers that decided that. Unless of course you are saying that the market shouldn't decide? Isn't that anti-libertarian having Trump pick winners and losers via Subsidizing? You guys were ALL against that with Obama.
So wait... I'm confused.
What we want to do?
End the American Dairy industry? That what we are cheering for right now?
What is your solution
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So you are FOR Trump subsidizing, but were against Obama subsidizing? Either you are for it or against it. You can't say you're against China Subsidizing Steel and then be for Trump subsidizing Dairy Farmers unless of course you love hypocrisy as long as Trump does it.
Your right about 1 thing anyhow. I am a great liberal as well as a great conservative. In fact I'm a great person all around.Fact and by the way no one cares you sent it from your sm-g965u . You’re a great liberal.
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