Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia**[W:808]**

[JasperL]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

Because driving cars is part of normal life.

Gang-banging thugs are NOT part of normal life......they are deadly scum that need to be removed from normal society.

BUTWHATABOUTRAPISTS? They are also scum. WHATABOUTCHILDMOLESTERS?? Etc. What do they have to do with a discussion of terrorist groups or the alt-right?

 

[Caine]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

And the Nazis and neo confederates who came didn't intend to violence and weren't armed to the teeth?

By saying "its the left's fault" you mitigate the responsibility of the person who actually committed a crime.

If the shoe was on the other foot, if a left winger drove a car into crowd and blamed the right for his actions, would you except such an excuse?

Just a quick question since you brought up the fact that they were "armed to the teeth".

Despite all the violence that was going on oh what with Antifa beating people with bats and throwing bottles, vegetables, and their first born at the White Supremacists..... were any shots fired?


Thanks in advance for your honest answer.

 

[Caine]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

Sharecropping existed well into this century. I think slavery easily would have existed until after WWII. I tend to think they'd still be debating it today.

Nope. Outside (as well as inside) influences would have forced their hand.

People would eventually stop purchasing goods from then until they dropped their policy of slavery.

 

[Vox]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

Under what law is a counter protest illegal, show me any law that says that.

Because if you can't, then I will assume you think right wingers have superior free speech rights to left wingers.

The law, as I clearly stated several times here, is that if you bring weapons and attack a demonstration that is already going on, you will be guilty of public disturbance, assault, and inciting a riot.

Not the actions of good people......no matter how hysterically upset they may be.....even if their sensitivities have been offended by racism and other outrageous behavior.

They need to remember the Golden Rule.

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[Yes_Minister]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

Just a quick question since you brought up the fact that they were "armed to the teeth".

Despite all the violence that was going on oh what with Antifa beating people with bats and throwing bottles, vegetables, and their first born at the White Supremacists..... were any shots fired?


Thanks in advance for your honest answer.

No, someone was just run over by a car instead.

And again evidence is there almost all the violence come solely from the left wingers in this event?

 

[Parrish]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

Your'e obviously confused. Im not nor have ever been a Democrat

If one cannot call out the Klan, and the rest then it doesn't matter what party or affiliation one identifies with.

 

[Vox]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

BUTWHATABOUTRAPISTS? They are also scum. WHATABOUTCHILDMOLESTERS?? Etc. What do they have to do with a discussion of terrorist groups or the alt-right?

Nothing.

WHATABOUTWETRYTOSTAYONTOPIC?

 

[Yes_Minister]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

The law, as I clearly stated several times here, is that if you bring weapons and attack a demonstration that is already going on, you will be guilty of public disturbance, assault, and inciting a riot.

Not the actions of good people......no matter how hysterically upset they may be.....even if their sensitivities have been offended by racism and other outrageous behavior.

They need to remember the Golden Rule.

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Okay, could you please point out the act or statute where that law appears in and how does it over ride the open carry laws in Virginia? Can you point towards the written version of that law?

 

[Vox]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

And again evidence is there almost all the violence come solely from the left wingers in this event?

The fact that instead of having their own peaceful demonstration, they armed themselves and went to do violence to an already ongoing demonstration--one that successfully acted in self defense.

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[Yes_Minister]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

The fact that instead of having their own peaceful demonstration, they armed themselves and went to do violence to an already ongoing demonstration--one that successfully acted in self defense.

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They both bought weapons, unless you think open carry laws apply solely to right wingers, why do right wingers get superior rights in this regard?

 

[Vox]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

If one cannot call out the Klan, and the rest then it doesn't matter what party or affiliation one identifies with.

I have read this whole thread and have not seen one person defending the Klan.

I have seen people correctly protesting painting an entire demonstration with the broad brush of "Klan."

There were a number of extremist groups present and they infested both sides of the civil disturbance.

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[Vox]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

They both bought weapons, unless you think open carry laws apply solely to right wingers, why do right wingers get superior rights in this regard?

Yes, they both brought weapons and all had equal rights.

Where the Leftists erred was to intentionally seek out a confrontation with the legal demonstrators.

They should have held their own separate peaceful demonstration and none of the violence would have occurred.

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[Yes_Minister]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

Yes, they both brought weapons and all had equal rights.

Where the Leftists erred was to intentionally seek out a confrontation with the legal demonstrators.

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Based on what evidence? You seem to be saying that the left wingers are more violent then the right wingers in this event, but you seem to shy when presenting actual evidence to back your claims up.

I think you are presenting your opinions as facts and at this point, I need some valid citation.

 

[Vox]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

Okay, could you please point out the act or statute where that law appears in and how does it over ride the open carry laws in Virginia? Can you point towards the written version of that law?

What law and what connection does it have to the open carry law?

 

[Kobie]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

I think the events this weekend broke the left, in the same way Trump's election did. They are so obsessed with blind rage that all their time is spent trying to prove that anyone who disagrees with them is a russian colluder or a Nazi sympathizer(or worse). And somehow they think their vitriol will bring them back to power. No ideas, no course correction, just hatred of conservatives is all they have.

Funny how an alt-right freakshow plows his car into a crowd of people and all you can muster is your usual bitching about "the left."

 

[Vox]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

Based on what evidence? You seem to be saying that the left wingers are more violent then the right wingers in this event, but you seem to shy when presenting actual evidence to back your claims up.

I think you are presenting your opinions as facts and at this point, I need some valid citation.

I have not said either group was more violent. Obviously, both were unacceptably violent.

I have explained the mistake of the Leftists several times.

I don't think you missed it.

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[Yes_Minister]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

What law and what connection does it have to the open carry law?

You said "The law, as I clearly stated several times here, is that if you bring weapons and attack a demonstration that is already going on, you will be guilty of public disturbance, assault, and inciting a riot."

Is there an actual, factual on the books law that says protesters can bring weapons to a protest, but counter protesters cannot or is that something you merely wish was true? If it is law in Virginia, please show me where that law is written and if is not law, I have ask, are you saying right wingers should superior free speech compared to left wingers? Because there have been anti Trump rallies with pro Trump counter rallies, are so those pro Trump counter rallies wrong? Or do you think counter protests are okay, as long as they right wing counter protests?

 

[Parrish]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

I have read this whole thread and have not seen one person defending the Klan.

I have seen people correctly protesting painting an entire demonstration with the broad brush of "Klan."

There were a number of extremist groups present and they infested both sides of the civil disturbance.

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Yes. There were at least 12 white supremacist groups gathered. And they were not welcome in C'Ville.

Please, volunteer your town for the next one.

 

[apdst]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

You can say it. Right wing terrorism.

Can you say Left wing terrorism?

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.dail...ttacks-against-conservatives-is-mind-blowing/

 

[Fenton]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

If one cannot call out the Klan, and the rest then it doesn't matter what party or affiliation one identifies with.

The " Klan " to you is anyone who voted for and still supports Trump.

Clinton lost and now the rest of us get to witness the biggest temper tantrum ever thrown by a losing Political party in our Nations history.

Instead of accepting the loss like mature and emotionally stable adults, Democrats and their suppporters ( people like you ) have chosen to rage and cry, to act like children and that includes personal apersos against Trump supporters.

Sure its pathetic, but I also find it immeasurably entertaining. All I can say is keep it up ! You'll win back the majority if you just stick with it, I promise

 

[apdst]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

1) This thread isn't about antifa.
2) I hate the guys but I guess that isn't enough of a condemnation for you

How about you start a thread on antifa and give a script of exactly what you'd like people to say that'd please you.

Actually, antifa is very much a part of this thread.

I've never seen Liberal condemn antifa, nor BLM.

 

[RedAkston]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

Uh, red, you made clear in the intial post of our debate that it was about ideology:

it was an act of rage against a group of people who were on the other side of his thinking.

If you want to argue that a "way of thinking" is not "ideology", then go ahead and make that absurd walking back of a point. It is just more insane posting, but I'm used to it from you.


Uh, red, yer now making the argument that it might not be any "way of thinking", completely undercutting yer original claim that it was:

it was an act of rage against a group of people who were on the other side of his thinking.

Keep walking it back to absurdity.

I can't help if it you can't comprehend that there is a difference between an ideology and a political ideology. I'm tired of going around in circles with you due to your inability to comprehend the written word.

 

[RedAkston]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

You clearly stated: "Yesterday was not an act of terrorism." So while it is fair to want to wait for evidence for the motives of the driver (although plenty of evidence has already popped up), you have made a statement not backed by any evidence. If you said, "I don't know if it was an act of terrorism" that would be one thing. But no, you said "[it] was NOT an act of terrorism." Where is YOUR evidence to back that statement?

Perhaps I misspoke and left out the "yet" part of that statement. It hasn't been deemed an act of terrorism yet. I'll wait for all the facts to come out before I leap to a conclusion that may or may not be a valid one.

 

[Parrish]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

The " Klan " to you is anyone who voted for and still supports Trump.

Clinton lost and now the rest of us get to witness the biggest temper tantrum ever thrown by a losing Political party in our Nations history.

Instead of accepting the loss like mature and emotionally stable adults, Democrats and their suppporters ( people like you ) have chosen to rage and cry, to act like children and that includes personal apersos against Trump supporters.

Sure its pathetic, but I also find it immeasurably entertaining. All I can say is keep it up ! You'll win back the majority if you just stick with it, I promise

You're grasping. And you still haven't really condemned the neo-Nazis et al, just those of us who think that white supremacists should be called out for what they are.

You might feel comfortable with them in your town or government but not the majority of Americans.

 

[Sabre]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

Don't agree with anything in your post, but I love your avatar.

That's perfectly OK - and - thank you.