Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia**[W:808]**

[bubbabgone]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

I didn't know a sign could be happy. You need to lighten up a bit. There are no doubt some few who view those events yesterday as satisfying. I doubt you'll find me or others here in that camp, so don't bust your imagination trying to put us there, Mr. Happy Sign.

uh oh ... I see a new thread coming.

 

[Grand Mal]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

I didn't know a sign could be happy. You need to lighten up a bit. There are no doubt some few who view those events yesterday as satisfying. I doubt you'll find me or others here in that camp, so don't bust your imagination trying to put us there, Mr. Happy Sign.

Happy sign?

 

[Erod]

Trump can't even condemn yesterday's violence without the media condemning his condemnation.

The media is 90% of the problem.

 

[JoeTrumps]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

repost

 

[calamity]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

You did.
You really did.
I still haven't found any references to LGBT signs as happy signs.
You sure you didn't make that up?
I didn't see any in the Challenger video either.

Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe had declared a state of emergency in the city because of violence that was breaking out. In fact, a group of white nationalists had just been dispersed shortly before the car rammed into the counter protesters, many of whom were carrying LBTQ flags and Black Lives Matters signs.

Heather Heyer: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

OK, maybe it was "happy flags."

 

[calamity]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

ANTIFA = Tiny minority of left

JIHAD = Tiny minority of Muslims

ALT-RIGHT = Every Trump supporter that ever existed

No, I think Hillary nailed with with her comment that only half of Trump supporters are bigots.

 

[humbolt]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

Happy sign?

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Dey's a lot of such symbols covering a lot of human territory. They aren't anything in and of themselves, but we generally question the content of the hearts and minds of those who display them.

 

[MTAtech]

Trump can't even condemn yesterday's violence without the media condemning his condemnation.

The media is 90% of the problem.

He didn't condemn. He played the middle and made every effort not to criticize white supremacists. Sorry, condemning "violence…. on many sides… on many sides,” doesn't cut it. He might as well say:
“When it comes to the Empire and the Rebel Alliance, the Borg and the Federation, and the Daleks and the Doctor? We condemn in the strongest possible terms egregious displays of hatred, bigotry and violence…. on many sides… on many sides.”

Don't try to tell me that Trump hasn't emboldened these racist SOBs.

 

[fmw]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

Liberals are violent people.

They are "anti-FA" - anti- First Amendment.

Drawing conclusions from small groups and applying them to a universe of people is inaccurate and misleading. Antifa are violent people, certainly not all liberals. Put your broad brush away.

 

[Nilly]

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Allegations of "white privilege" are really just the mirror image of claims of "white supremacy." Both are attempts to racialize issues that are fundamentally socio-economic. Both are attractive to their proponents because they are tactically useful without disturbing the economic status quo, and both feed off and produce hate.

:lamo

Average American family net worths:



But yeah, go ahead and keep trying to tell me that race and socio-economic issues aren't fundamentally and inextricably linked in America.

I'll try to keep a straight face.

 

[Tigerace117]

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I don't know why you minimize this Calamity. When you have to have bars on your windows we have a huge cultural problem. We see this is pretty widespread in most big cities, at least in large enough portions of said.

When you have to send an airborne division in to get kids to school you have a very serious problem

 

[MTAtech]

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:lamo

Average American family net worths:

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But yeah, go ahead and keep trying to tell me that race and socio-economic issues aren't fundamentally and inextricably linked in America.

I'll try to keep a straight face.

President Lyndon Baines Johnson once argued, “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

 

[Cable]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

Again, if I call out that white privilege exists I'm a bigot? That makes no sense. I should instead pretend, like you, that white privilege doesn't exists?

Might as well call out the black privilege in the sports world. Yes, it is bigotry.

You're the one whining about someone bringing up White privilege. :roll:

Whining? IOW don't call out my racism, just shut up and let me be. :\ ?

 

[MTAtech]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

Might as well call out the black privilege in the sports world. Yes, it is bigotry.

You are just grasping at straws. I see your black sports stars and raise you 100:1 corporate executives earning more than a million dollars a year.

 

[Jack Hays]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

:lamo

Average American family net worths:

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But yeah, go ahead and keep trying to tell me that race and socio-economic issues aren't fundamentally and inextricably linked in America.

I'll try to keep a straight face.

There's no question they're linked, but you're addressing the symptom, not the cause.

 

[JoeTrumps]

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And, here folks, we have us a perfect example of what is wrong with Right Wing America.

yeah, if only the left hadn't screwed the country up so badly the last 8 years. maybe they would have the political power to do something. To bad. Probably should have spoken up then, huh?

 

[Cable]

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:lamo

Average American family net worths:

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But yeah, go ahead and keep trying to tell me that race and socio-economic issues aren't fundamentally and inextricably linked in America.

I'll try to keep a straight face.

Is it about color or culture?

Asian Americans Set to Surpass Whites in Median Family Wealth - NBC News

 

[Cable]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

You are just grasping at straws. I see your black sports stars and raise you 100:1 corporate executives earning more than a million dollars a year.

So racism is justified if it helps a minority? WTH

 

[Tanngrisnir]

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yeah, if only the left hadn't screwed the country up so badly the last 8 years. maybe they would have the political power to do something. To bad. Probably should have spoken up then, huh?

If only people wouldn't live lives of fantasy and face the reality that 'the left' didn't screw the country up so badly over the last 8 years.

Ah, well. One can always hope.

 

[calamity]

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yeah, if only the left hadn't screwed the country up so badly the last 8 years. maybe they would have the political power to do something. To bad. Probably should have spoken up then, huh?

Justifying a violent race rally because...."the Left"? Keep digging.

 

[JasperL]

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Of course... that was written by the wealthy Plantation owners who had a greedy and economical reason to keep the propaganda and support for supremacy and slavery in place so they could keep their profits.

But It is the people of the south itself who define the south for me.... not what essentially amounts to "The inner party".

Yeah, but the people who controlled Mississippi and the rest of the South were the wealthy plantation owners, they seceded, took the country to war, the people followed like they always do in every war. And, yes, supremacy and slavery was all about profits.

But if what you're doing is trying to claim that it was only a few wealthy landowners who benefitted from slavery, that's false and another one of those things I keep having to explain because people aren't informed about how widespread slavery was. It was very widespread throughout Mississippi, even to what we'd see as mom and pops, small businesses, small farmers. Over half the population of Mississippi was slaves, and 49% of all families owned at least one slave.

Claiming that the declarations of secession is all you need to learn about the south during that time period is as ignorant as saying all you need to know about the American revolution is the Declaration of Independence.

If I said that, you'd have a good point but I didn't. But if you want to claim that the Civil War was PRIMARILY about tariffs or some other side issue, you have a big barrier to overcome when the people seceding told us why, in the clearest of terms.

 

[Cable]

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Honestly, did any of you liberals study this and perhaps post about the wrongness of it all?
These Antifa Leftists are the worst, but I never seem to see them on any news channel but Fox.
In all other cases, including what I saw last night, these are called "counter protesters"

 

[JasperL]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

How so-its true what I said. The "alt right" isn't killing people at anywhere near the rate of inner city gangsters

It's a ludicrous comparison. It's the kind of comment would fit in over at Stormfront.

 

[Nilly]

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There's no question they're linked, but you're addressing the symptom, not the cause.

Are you really saying that white supremacism is not the cause of the above?

The men and women who marched last night, chanting and hashtagging #unitetheright, and the men and women in Charlottesville today, are not random loonies. They exist in coffeeshops and boardrooms. They are your neighbors. They are my neighbors. They’re schoolteachers and Little League baseball coaches; bartenders and accountants; architects and marketing directors; registered nurses and police officers. They’re at our kitchen tables and happy hours and bbqs and weddings. They’re in our families. They’re on our couches. They’re on our T-Mobile family plans. They’re in our beds.

Attitudes like this don't begin and end at the marches. Attitudes like this pervade American culture. And they are most certainly a cause of the racial in equality we see today.

 

[Cable]

When there is a double standard on conduct and justice you get what we saw last night. I'm not apologizing for it, it was terrible.
But it is what you can expect when one side plays by a different set of rules.