Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia**[W:808]**

[Cable]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

You disavow your Nazis. Let the Left worry about it's Antifa.

I'm not that benevolent Calamity. I worry about both.

 

[Common Sense 1]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

The #s are skewed by that % because of so many Dems in the South.

You do realize that the Dems voted better in the North and the West than the Pubs?

You do know that Barry Goldwater voted against the legislation?

You do know you are trying for cheap shots here?

You are just trying the best you can to twist the numbers. The plain fact is more republicans voted for it than democrats!
PERIOD

 

[TurtleDude]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

That's the dumbest thing I've read all day. Good job.

How so-its true what I said. The "alt right" isn't killing people at anywhere near the rate of inner city gangsters

 

[calamity]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/28/republicans-party-of-civil-rights

80% of Republicans in the House and Senate voted for the bill. Less than 70% of Democrats did. Indeed, Minority Leader Republican Everett Dirksen led the fight to end the filibuster. Meanwhile, Democrats such as Richard Russell of Georgia and Strom Thurmond of South Carolina tried as hard as they could to sustain a filibuster.

Look at the post above yours, #944. It breaks down the vote by party and region. The D in the North voted roughly 95% for it; the GOP closer to 85%. In the South, the D only voted about 5% for and the GOP vote was 0%. :lol:

The total percentages are skewed because back then almost all the racists in the South were D. So, there are over 100 D Southern bigots voting against it, while the R only had 11 bigots representing them in that region.

Fact still remains, many more D voted for it than R.

 

[JamesBY]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

You are just trying the best you can to twist the numbers. The plain fact is more republicans voted for it than democrats!
PERIOD

The numbers are clear that the dems in the North and West voted in greater numbers for the legislation, and the Pubs resisted it in the South by 100%.

 

[JamesBY]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

How so-its true what I said. The "alt right" isn't killing people at anywhere near the rate of inner city gangsters

Fallacy of false equivalency again

 

[calamity]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

How so-its true what I said. The "alt right" isn't killing people at anywhere near the rate of inner city gangsters

Those aren't political murders. And, you know it. So far, political murders are way up on the Right. Of course, Hard Right, Tim McVeigh gave you guys a nice head start.

 

[calamity]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

Fallacy of false equivalency again

Typical go-to from that bunch--"B...b...but the murdering gangsters in the inner city!"

 

[Tigerace117]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

Of course... that was written by the wealthy Plantation owners who had a greedy and economical reason to keep the propaganda and support for supremacy and slavery in place so they could keep their profits.

But It is the people of the south itself who define the south for me.... not what essentially amounts to "The inner party".

Claiming that the declarations of secession is all you need to learn about the south during that time period is as ignorant as saying all you need to know about the American revolution is the Declaration of Independence.

And the "people of the south" happily supported the "inner party", dying in vast numbers in an attempt to keep slavery a going concern.

Amazing what a desperate need to keep African Americans "in their place" can cause.

 

[Cable]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

The numbers are clear that the dems in the North and West voted in greater numbers for the legislation, and the Pubs resisted it in the South by 100%.

I have to ask does this really matter? neither party is what it was, even 20 years ago, much less 50

 

[TurtleDude]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

Those aren't political murders. And, you know it. So far, political murders are way up on the Right. Of course, Hard Right, Tim McVeigh gave you guys a nice head start.

I guess kids shot by gang bangers are less dead than the few people killed by racist scum bags such as that turd who walked into a Black Church and shot a bunch of good Christians

 

[Tigerace117]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

That's ok, my family also fought Nazis, fascists, and Japanese militarists and we and our friends will continue fighting the looney Left every step of the way.

Too bad your ideology is now more inline with those your family once fought

 

[TurtleDude]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

Fallacy of false equivalency again

its silly to whine about a minor problem when there is a far bigger source of violent deaths running rampant in the USA.

again-how many deaths each year are attributable to what the left calls "alt right" versus constituents or followers of the "alt left"?

Sure-when a James Byrd is dragged to death by three white racist extremists-that got coverage almost daily. When a white couple was killed in an equally horrific manner by black racists-not so much

when an asshole walked into a Black church and shot a bunch of kindly Parishioners, that caused righteous condemnation for weeks, but when hundreds of Black inner city residents are killed in Chicago, the people who screamed the loudest over white racism were no where to be heard

 

[MTAtech]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

What "anti-white" violence are you referring to?

Contrary to your view that this violence is somehow justified by "white supremacists pissed off about all the anti-white violence," I contend that they hold a view that is completely unjustifiable -- namely, that 'white Christians should be dominant in America and black, brown and Jewish people have gotten too much at the expense of white Christians.' We cannot pretend that the ugly bigotry unleashed in the streets of Charlottesville, Va., this weekend has nothing to do with the election of Donald Trump, who emboldened them with tacit cover. For a president who mocked President Obama for not saying "Islamic terrorists," now can't bring himself to say, "Nazi and white supremacist terrorist" and instead draws a false equivalence between Nazis and anti-Nazis, bigots and anti-bigots.

“When it comes to the Empire and the Rebel Alliance, the Borg and the Federation, and the Daleks and the Doctor? We condemn in the strongest possible terms egregious displays of hatred, bigotry and violence…. on many sides… on many sides.”

You seem to understand very little of the bigotry of the left. You are probably right round-aboutly regarding Trump. He is there because the Left has gotten so brazen in their leftist racism that folks are going to backlash against that stupidity.
Dr King comes to mind as a very reasonable response to injustice. The BLM bs alive on the streets today is not even a shadow of his greatness. Ya'all should be ashamed, but you are not.

I asked in the post that you are replying, "What "anti-white" violence are you referring to?" and you gave no answer. All you did was further assert that there is 'bigotry by the left, that I don't know anything about.' You are right, I don't know about bigotry on the left because it's virtually nonexistent.

White bigots believe that it's just fine when they enjoy the benefits of white privilege but when blacks try to get equal treatment or object to when police use excessive force or shoot blacks at a simple traffic stop, those bigots (falsely) act as if they are the underclass.

It was the same during the civil rights movement of the 1960s. White bigots had counter-demonstrations to maintain their privilege.

 

[JamesBY]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

I have to ask does this really matter? neither party is what it was, even 20 years ago, much less 50

Tell that to the one who is making a nonsense point from the numbers.

I agree with the point both parties have changed dramatically, and my belief is the one has move too far left and the other too far right.

 

[TurtleDude]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

Too bad your ideology is now more inline with those your family once fought

proof?

 

[Tigerace117]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

proof?

The white supremacist rally that we are discussing, as well as the fact that he shrieked about the "loony left" without even offering a pro forma condemnation of the violence, including the attempted vehicular homicide.

 

[JoeTrumps]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

The left did not get us here.

The left is not the group that has screwed up the WH and Congress so that the US is the laughing stock of the world.

by the world you mean "socialist europe" who of course are going to hate trump, so that is a lame argument that isn't even true.

And it appears you forget the race riots in Ferguson and Baltimore under Obama(lord and savior). When you spend years pitting groups against one another, this is the outcome. get it?

 

[TurtleDude]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

The white supremacist rally that we are discussing, as well as the fact that he shrieked about the "loony left" without even offering a pro forma condemnation of the violence, including the attempted vehicular homicide.

so all those who whine about "alt right" violence without showing equal disgust for left wing violence are in support of OWS, the rioters in Rodney King etc?

I don't think your proved your point. Perhaps he should wear a ribbon that says "I care more than the rest of you"?

 

[poweRob]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

Charged with 2nd degree murder at this point and a couple other smaller charges. I would think it was kind of malicious and at least somewhat premeditated.

 

[MTAtech]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

its silly to whine about a minor problem when there is a far bigger source of violent deaths running rampant in the USA.

again-how many deaths each year are attributable to what the left calls "alt right" versus constituents or followers of the "alt left"?

Sure-when a James Byrd is dragged to death by three white racist extremists-that got coverage almost daily. When a white couple was killed in an equally horrific manner by black racists-not so much

when an asshole walked into a Black church and shot a bunch of kindly Parishioners, that caused righteous condemnation for weeks, but when hundreds of Black inner city residents are killed in Chicago, the people who screamed the loudest over white racism were no where to be heard

What case are you referring to in the white couple? If your objective is to reduce violent deaths, you should be for reducing the number of guns -- which kill a senseless number of innocent people.

But we are straying from the issue. My father fought the Nazis in WWII. Now, Nazis are killing Americans on American streets and we have a president who emboldened them and can't even say the words "white supremacist terrorists."

 

[JamesBY]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

by the world you mean "socialist europe" who of course are going to hate trump, so that is a lame argument that isn't even true. And it appears you forget the race riots in Ferguson and Baltimore under Obama(lord and savior). When you spend years pitting groups against one another, this is the outcome. get it?

What are you babbling about.

All of America not alt right and all of the world laughs at the Alt Right and the Trump WH and the GOP Congress, who can't get things done. Obama is gone. Did you know that?

Get it?

 

[JamesBY]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

so all those who whine about "alt right" violence without showing equal disgust for left wing violence are in support of OWS, the rioters in Rodney King etc? I don't think your proved your point. Perhaps he should wear a ribbon that says "I care more than the rest of you"?

So you are avowing Charlottesville rioting because some people don't disavow the LA rioters.

That is beyond goofy.

 

[Tigerace117]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

so all those who whine about "alt right" violence without showing equal disgust for left wing violence are in support of OWS, the rioters in Rodney King etc?

I don't think your proved your point. Perhaps he should wear a ribbon that says "I care more than the rest of you"?

Those who go on threads about the actions of right wing bigots, who attempted everything up to attempted vehicular homicide in an attempt to suppress the people they hate, and does nothing but whine about the left....... rather exposes themselves.

If somebody went on a thread about the "Rodney King riots" and spent the whole thing yelling about the right rather than, you know, actually condemning the violence, then that would be another example of exposing oneself.

But the fact remains that this poster seems far more concerned with the "loony left" than he does with the white supremacist, Neo Nazi, Neo Confederate violence.

 

[Tigerace117]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

by the world you mean "socialist europe" who of course are going to hate trump, so that is a lame argument that isn't even true.

And it appears you forget the race riots in Ferguson and Baltimore under Obama(lord and savior). When you spend years pitting groups against one another, this is the outcome. get it?

I hate to break it to you, but no, scumbags like Neo Confederates and Neo Nazis are not the outcome of your fantasies of "pitting groups against one another".