Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia**[W:808]**

[JamesBY]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

And the violence of the Alt-Left, right?
Bike lock Professor
Police Assassin in Dallas
Burning down of towns
all that Alt-Left stuff the media tends to sympathize with.

None of which excuses Alt Right violence either in the last few days or the last few years.

I doubt that the Alt Left (is there such a thing?) agrees with any of that.

Cable, if you believe that the path of violence is the pathway to change, the only change that will happen for the Alt Left is jail or death.

 

[Cable]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

It was a Republican Nazi who ran down those people. Stay focused.

If you really want to get focused Calamity, then you would start to examine the Alt-Left strategy and it's effect on growing Alt-Right recruitment.
But me thinks you don't really want to focus that intensely.
Dems are self-destructing due to embracing inequality while calling it equality, lying to get their ends, and other similar foolishness.
The right just has to hold themselves together and watch.

 

[calamity]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

You seem to forget that more Republicans voted in favor of the 1964 Civil Rights Act than Democrats!

Democrats did everything they could to block it through filibusters.

That lie was debunked in post 847.

 

[Common Sense 1]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

One, the votes by both siders were very close in percentage.

Two, the Dems in the south voted for it in small measure when the GOP voted 100% against it.

Three, the vote of Dems and Pubs in the North and West were overwhelmingly vote it.

Four, you don't know the numbers, do you?

Plain fact more republicans voted in favor then the democrats! You don't seem to know numbers!

 

[calamity]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

If you really want to get focused Calamity, then you would start to examine the Alt-Left strategy and it's effect on growing Alt-Right recruitment.
But me thinks you don't really want to focus that intensely.
Dems are self-destructing due to embracing inequality while calling it equality, lying to get their ends, and other similar foolishness.
The right just has to hold themselves together and watch.

Who ran down those people? Ah. A registered Republican Nazi. Stay focused.

 

[Common Sense 1]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

That lie was debunked in post 847.

It's not a lie and you know it!

 

[calamity]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

Plain fact more republicans voted in favor then the democrats! You don't seem to know numbers!

Why do you persist pushing a lie that has been debunked and can easily be looked up on Wiki?

 

[JamesBY]

to the left and the right

deep breaths

not all the left or Democrats and not all the right or Republicans are violent and all who suggest so are morally wrong

 

[JamesBY]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

It's not a lie and you know it!

Now you are not truth telling.

 

[calamity]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

It's not a lie and you know it!

Yes it is. Why do you refuse to look at post 847 and follow the link to get even more information? Do you like perpetuating false information?

Many more D voted for the CR act than did Republicans. It's right there in black and white.

 

[Common Sense 1]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

That lie was debunked in post 847.

More Republicans voted in favor of the Civil Rights Act than Democrats

"a far higher percentage of Republicans voted for this bill than did Democrats"

http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/10/politics/civil-rights-act-interesting-facts/index.html

 

[Cable]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

None of which excuses Alt Right violence either in the last few days or the last few years.

I doubt that the Alt Left (is there such a thing?) agrees with any of that.

Cable, if you believe that the path of violence is the pathway to change, the only change that will happen for the Alt Left is jail or death.

I don't support violence. I am a huge fan of Dr King. The one the left has abandoned in favor of violence.
This Alt-Right violence I do not support, but I do see it as a natural response to the Alt-Left foolishness.
When the left silences debate with violence and shouting down, then the only voice some folks feel they have is a violent voice.
The Alt-Left (Antifa, BLM, etc..) should be put down by the true left. Otherwise the country is in trouble of a serious nature.

 

[Linc]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

One, the votes by both siders were very close in percentage.

Two, the Dems in the south voted for it in small measure when the GOP voted 100% against it.

Three, the vote of Dems and Pubs in the North and West were overwhelmingly vote it.

Four, you don't know the numbers, do you?

There were still quite a few liberal/moderate GOPs back then who voted for Civil Rights and without their votes it would not have passed. Few of them are left of course, such as Sen. Collins of Maine.

Back then, there were two major coalitions BETWEEN the parties that overlapped, conservatives and liberals, and they lined up differently as well as regionally, not so today either ...

 

[calamity]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

I don't support violence. I am a huge fan of Dr King. The one the left has abandoned in favor of violence.
This Alt-Right violence I do not support, but I do see it as a natural response to the Alt-Left foolishness.
When the left silences debate with violence and shouting down, then the only voice some folks feel they have is a violent voice.
The Alt-Left (Antifa, BLM, etc..) should be put down by the true left. Otherwise the country is in trouble of a serious nature.

You disavow your Nazis. Let the Left worry about it's Antifa.

 

[Linc]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

More Republicans voted in favor of the Civil Rights Act than Democrats

"a far higher percentage of Republicans voted for this bill than did Democrats"

What you might not know about the 1964 Civil Rights Act - CNNPolitics

And those liberal, moderate GOPs no longer exist, as GOPs brag about getting rid of RINOs. Senators like Rand Paul openly state that they would not support Civil Rights today ...

 

[JamesBY]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

You disavow your Nazis. Let the Left worry about it's Antifa.

We need to disavow all violence: left or right.

I disavow all violence left or right, and I do avow that LEO has the right and duty to smash it.

 

[JoeTrumps]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

You'd help your cause if you condemned the deplorable Nazis and Klan folks. But, do continue to whine about Democrats and media. I'm sure it makes you feel better.

every conservative has condemned it. the left has deemed it "not enough." The left can therefor go screw itself. They are the ones who don't have an ounce of political power left. They are the ones who got us here in the first place. THEY are not the arbiters of who is and isn't racists. do you understand any part of that?

 

[JamesBY]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

And those liberal, moderate GOPs no longer exist, as GOPs brag about getting rid of RINOs. Senators like Rand Paul openly state that they would not support Civil Rights today ...

You are overstating. Many do, many don't.

 

[calamity]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

There were still quite a few liberal/moderate GOPs back then who voted for Civil Rights and without their votes it would not have passed. Few of them are left of course, such as Sen. Collins of Maine.

Back then, there were two major coalitions BETWEEN the parties that overlapped, conservatives and liberals, and they lined up differently as well as regionally, not so today either ...

In the South all the Republicans voted against it.

The original House version:
Southern Democrats: 7–87 (7–93%)
Southern Republicans: 0–10 (0–100%)
Northern Democrats: 145–9 (94–6%)
Northern Republicans: 138–24 (85–15%)

The Senate version:
Southern Democrats: 1–20 (5–95%) (only Ralph Yarborough of Texas voted in favor)
Southern Republicans: 0–1 (0–100%) (John Tower of Texas)
Northern Democrats: 45–1 (98–2%) (only Robert Byrd of West Virginia voted against)
Northern Republicans: 27–5 (84–16%)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964#By_party_and_region

As we can clearly see, as a whole, many more Democrats voted for it than did Republicans.

 

[Common Sense 1]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

Now you are not truth telling.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/28/republicans-party-of-civil-rights

80% of Republicans in the House and Senate voted for the bill. Less than 70% of Democrats did. Indeed, Minority Leader Republican Everett Dirksen led the fight to end the filibuster. Meanwhile, Democrats such as Richard Russell of Georgia and Strom Thurmond of South Carolina tried as hard as they could to sustain a filibuster.

 

[JamesBY]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

every conservative has condemned it. the left has deemed it "not enough." The left can therefor go screw itself. They are the ones who don't have an ounce of political power left. They are the ones who got us here in the first place. THEY are not the arbiters of who is and isn't racists. do you understand any part of that?

The left did not get us here.

The left is not the group that has screwed up the WH and Congress so that the US is the laughing stock of the world.

All Americans certainly can disavow racism, and good Americans disavow the Alt Right and any who support it.

 

[JamesBY]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/28/republicans-party-of-civil-rights

80% of Republicans in the House and Senate voted for the bill. Less than 70% of Democrats did. Indeed, Minority Leader Republican Everett Dirksen led the fight to end the filibuster. Meanwhile, Democrats such as Richard Russell of Georgia and Strom Thurmond of South Carolina tried as hard as they could to sustain a filibuster.

The #s are skewed by that % because of so many Dems in the South.

You do realize that the Dems voted better in the North and the West than the Pubs?

You do know that Barry Goldwater voted against the legislation?

You do know you are trying for cheap shots here?

 

[calamity]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

every conservative has condemned it. the left has deemed it "not enough." The left can therefor go screw itself. They are the ones who don't have an ounce of political power left. They are the ones who got us here in the first place. THEY are not the arbiters of who is and isn't racists. do you understand any part of that?

I understand Trump is the hero of Racists. And, that will soon take its toll.

 

[Tigerace117]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

And the list gets longer and longer.

I never wanted to be a Borg.

Not believing in ethnic cleansing and some of the worst ideologies that have been around is not "being a Borg".

 

[JamesBY]

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

I understand Trump is the hero of Racists. And, that will soon take its toll.

Trump is going to have to condemn the Alt Right by name, and when he does Bannon, Miller, and others will leave.

America will be better for it.