Family of Florida teen killed by neighborhood watch volunteer feel 'betrayed' by law

[Wiggen]

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Look, one can make baseless assumptions all they want, we don't really know. While we're trading races, if it were a white victim what would have happened?

Well, we all know the answer to that one, don't we?

What took place here was the 2012 version of a lynching.

 

[Deuce]

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Nothing would've happened.

Blacks are only protesting because the victim was Black and the shooter was not.

A kid was stalked and murdered, and the police didn't even bother to investigate. All of us should be protesting.

 

[Porchev]

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Black or white, it doesn’t matter, Zimmerman should go to jail for 2nd Degree Murder. And since it was with a firearm, I believe in Florida that is a minimum 25 year prison term.

 

[Thunder]

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A kid was stalked and murdered, and the police didn't even bother to investigate. All of us should be protesting.

i'll be wearing my black hoody tomorrow.

 

[justabubba]

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Black or white, it doesn’t matter, Zimmerman should go to jail for 2nd Degree Murder. And since it was with a firearm, I believe in Florida that is a minimum 25 year prison term.

you are going to send a man to jail for defending himself?
prove he didn't

 

[Kreton]

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i'll be wearing my black hoody tomorrow.

According to some, you can be legally gun downed.

 

[Kreton]

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you are going to send a man to jail for defending himself?
prove he didn't

It has been shown to you more times than I care to count.

 

[liblady]

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you are going to send a man to jail for defending himself?
prove he didn't

i'll bet a jury sends him to jail. he's despicable.

 

[justabubba]

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It has been shown to you more times than I care to count.

i am still waiting for it to be shown to me for the first time
which means your counting abilities are limited to zero

 

[justabubba]

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i'll bet a jury sends him to jail. he's despicable.

why do you find it despicable for someone to defend himself?

 

[Porchev]

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you are going to send a man to jail for defending himself?
prove he didn't

He needs to be arrested and tried by a jury. There is enough evidence in my opinion by the 911 calls and witnesses to arrest him. Zimmerman gunned downed a teenager armed with candy and a cell phone, Zimmerman's family must be so proud.

 

[Samhain]

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It has been shown to you more times than I care to count.

I'm pretty sure the only people who can "show" exactly what happened that night are the dead guy and the guy who shot him.

 

[What if...?]

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you are going to send a man to jail for defending himself?
prove he didn't

Are YOU going let a man who killed another walk based solely on the survivors word?

Im not demanding anyone be imprisoned.

I DO think an investigation was in order. I actually find it suspiscious that there wasn't one. There were prompt counter claims to Zimmerman's.

In most places there are investigations any time there's a corpse. ESPECIALLY when the shooter is the only eye-witness. The alternative is to make murder WAY too easy to get away with.

 

[Thunder]

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you are going to send a man to jail for defending himself?
prove he didn't

if Zimmermann can kill a kid for defending himself, than we can send Zimmermann to jail for the same thing.

 

[justabubba]

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if Zimmermann can kill a kid for defending himself, than we can send Zimmermann to jail for the same thing.

prove to us the kid was defending himself and did not assault the older fellow who confronted him to ask what he was doing in that community

 

[Kreton]

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i am still waiting for it to be shown to me for the first time
which means your counting abilities are limited to zero

For the last time. Martin was walking innocently down the street. Breaking no laws. Infringing on no ones rights. You cannot shoot someone for that and say it is self defense. Walking down a street is in no way shape or form a threatening act. Is this really that hard for your to comprehend?

 

[joko104]

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Are YOU going let a man who killed another walk based solely on the survivors word?

Im not demanding anyone be imprisoned.

I DO think an investigation was in order. I actually find it suspiscious that there wasn't one. There were prompt counter claims to Zimmerman's.

In most places there are investigations any time there's a corpse. ESPECIALLY when the shooter is the only eye-witness. The alternative is to make murder WAY too easy to get away with.

Why do you say there was not investigation?

 

[Thunder]

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Why do you say there was not investigation?

because there is no evidence of any investigation having taken place.

 

[Tettsuo]

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Why do you say there was not investigation?

Asking the shooter what happened doesn't constitute an investigation.

 

[justabubba]

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For the last time. Martin was walking innocently down the street. Breaking no laws. Infringing on no ones rights. You cannot shoot someone for that and say it is self defense. Walking down a street is in no way shape or form a threatening act. Is this really that hard for your to comprehend?

but there is an eyewitness who says the kid assaulted that person who approached the kid, asking him what he was doing in the community
if that eyewitness account is not found to be nonfactual, then we must conclude that the kid did more than walk down the street. he assaulted someone. and that someone defended himself with lethal force

 

[joko104]

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For the last time. Martin was walking innocently down the street. Breaking no laws. Infringing on no ones rights. You cannot shoot someone for that and say it is self defense. Walking down a street is in no way shape or form a threatening act. Is this really that hard for your to comprehend?

Great presentation by you as prosecutor. "Folks, let's not be ridiculous and the state won't waste your time get with talk about statutes and evidence crap. Martin was innocently walking down the street and Zimmerman shot and killed him. He admitted he fired the shot. His defense attorney stipulates that he fired the shot. So the prosecution has nothing else to present and we rest our case.'
not for lack of evidence establishing a prima facia case."

Its dismissed. End of case. A 30 minute trial.

 

[Kreton]

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but there is an eyewitness who says the kid assaulted that person who approached the kid, asking him what he was doing in the community
if that eyewitness account is not found to be nonfactual, then we must conclude that the kid did more than walk down the street. he assaulted someone. and that someone defended himself with lethal force

None of that is true. Zimmerman approached a person with a loaded gun without cause or authority to do so. That makes Zimmerman the aggressor. If you are the aggressor, self defense is not possible. Give it up. Your wrong.

 

[Kreton]

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Great presentation by you as prosecutor. "Folks, let's not be ridiculous and the state won't waste your time get with talk about statutes and evidence crap. Martin was innocently walking down the street and Zimmerman shot and killed him. He admitted he fired the shot. His defense attorney stipulates that he fired the shot. So the prosecution has nothing else to present and we rest our case.'

(Whereupon the Defense simply says, "We move for a summary dismissal for lack of evidence establishing a prima facia case."

Its dismissed. End of case. A 30 minute trial.

I am not sure you could have posted a more ignorant or irrelevant post.

 

[joko104]

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None of that is true. Zimmerman approached a person with a loaded gun without cause or authority to do so. That makes Zimmerman the aggressor. If you are the aggressor, self defense is not possible. Give it up. Your wrong.

You are wrong. So there.

 

[Thunder]

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You are wrong. So there.

was Zimmermann following the kid?

yes he was. that makes him the aggressor.