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FALSE TEACHERS

LittleNipper said:
JESUS was crucified and arose and assented the temple at Jerusalem was burnt to the ground,
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Sorry, but people can’t arise after passing away. That is a myth.
And what did Jesus “assent” to?

Also:
“During the Roman period, in AD 70, the Second Temple was destroyed, along with Jerusalem, by Titus’ army. It was also during this period that Jesus was in Jerusalem. He was crucified about 40 years before the destruction of the city.”

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Jerusalem History: The First and Second Temples

No visitor to Jerusalem can escape hearing references to the First Temple and the Second Temple. Learn more about the historical time periods when two different massive Jewish temples stood approxi…
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That means that the Temple was destroyed 40 YEARS after the death of Jesus even though many Christians think that it happened almost simultaneously with the death of Jesus and was done as an “act of God” rather than being destroyed by Titus’ army, Many Christians “believe” a whole lot of that which is not true.
 
watsup said:
Sorry, but people can’t arise after passing away. That is a myth.
And what did Jesus “assent” to?

Also:
“During the Roman period, in AD 70, the Second Temple was destroyed, along with Jerusalem, by Titus’ army. It was also during this period that Jesus was in Jerusalem. He was crucified about 40 years before the destruction of the city.”

www.moon.com

Jerusalem History: The First and Second Temples

No visitor to Jerusalem can escape hearing references to the First Temple and the Second Temple. Learn more about the historical time periods when two different massive Jewish temples stood approxi…
www.moon.com www.moon.com

That means that the Temple was destroyed 40 YEARS after the death of Jesus even though many Christians think that it happened almost simultaneously with the death of Jesus and was done as an “act of God” rather than being destroyed by Titus’ army, Many Christians “believe” a whole lot of that which is not true.
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True and that should convince a person even more that Jesus is God's Son...he prophesized the destruction 40 years before it happened...
 
watsup said:
That means that the Temple was destroyed 40 YEARS after the death of Jesus even though many Christians think that it happened almost simultaneously with the death of Jesus and was done as an “act of God” rather than being destroyed by Titus’ army, Many Christians “believe” a whole lot of that which is not true.
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What?
 
What does it matter if an atheist is a teacher?
How does being an atheist affect the teaching of math or geography?
 
LittleNipper said:
GOD still loves HIS Chosen people even though HE needs to provoke them to win them back...
Romans 11:1-13

1 I say then, has God cast away His people? Certainly not! For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God has not cast away His people whom He foreknew. Or do you not know what the Scripture says of Elijah, how he pleads with God against Israel, saying, 3 “Lord, they have killed Your prophets and torn down Your altars, and I alone am left, and they seek my life”? 4 But what does the divine response say to him? “I have reserved for Myself seven thousand men who have not bowed the knee to Baal.” 5 Even so then, at this present time there is a remnant according to the election of grace. 6 And if by grace, then it is no longer of works; otherwise grace is no longer grace. But if it is of works, it is no longer grace; otherwise work is no longer work.

7 What then? Israel has not obtained what it seeks; but the elect have obtained it, and the rest were blinded. 8 Just as it is written:

“God has given them a spirit of stupor,
Eyes that they should not see
And ears that they should not hear,
To this very day.”
9 And David says:

“Let their table become a snare and a trap,
A stumbling block and a recompense to them.
10 Let their eyes be darkened, so that they do not see,
And bow down their back always.”

Israel’s Rejection Not Final​

11 I say then, have they stumbled that they should fall? Certainly not! But through their [b]fall, to provoke them to jealousy, salvation has come to the Gentiles. 12 Now if their [c]fall is riches for the world, and their failure riches for the Gentiles, how much more their fullness!

13 For I speak to you Gentiles; inasmuch as I am an apostle to the Gentiles, I magnify my ministry, 14 if by any means I may provoke to jealousy those who are my flesh and save some of them. 15 For if their being cast away is the reconciling of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead?
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I'm sorry but all of that stuff is just impossible for me to believe, god needs to provoke his chosen people? What nonsense. You folks can read something in the Bible and it will mean a hundred different things to a hundred different people. Let's face it, very few actually follow the teachings of that Jesus dude that are in the Bible y'all say you worship. You turn what's in the Bible to suit your own beliefs. God needs to provoke his chosen people. Why, I thought god controlled everything, why not just make them believe?
 
Jesus was Jehovah’s greatest Prophet. First, note what he said would happen to Jerusalem: “Your enemies will build around you a fortification with pointed stakes and will encircle you and distress you from every side, and they will dash you and your children within you to the ground, and they will not leave a stone upon a stone in you, because you did not discern the time of your being inspected.” (Luke 19:43, 44) Jesus also said: “When you see Jerusalem surrounded by encamped armies, then know that the desolating of her has drawn near. Then let those in Judea begin fleeing to the mountains.”—Luke 21:20, 21.

True to the prophecy, Roman armies under Cestius Gallus came against Jerusalem in 66 C.E. Strangely, however, he did not press the siege to its completion, but, as the first-century historian Flavius Josephus reported: “He retired from the city, without any reason in the world.”⁠10 With the siege unexpectedly lifted, opportunity was afforded to heed Jesus’ instruction to flee Jerusalem. The historian Eusebius reported that it was the Christians who fled.

Less than four years later, in 70 C.E., Roman armies under General Titus returned and encircled Jerusalem. They cut down trees for miles around and built a city-encircling wall, “a fortification with pointed stakes.” As a result, Josephus observed: “All hope of escaping was now cut off from the Jews.”⁠12 Josephus noted that after a siege of about five months, aside from three towers and a portion of a wall, what was left “was so thoroughly laid even with the ground . . . that there was left nothing to make those that came thither believe it had ever been inhabited.”

About 1,100,000 died during the siege, and 97,000 were taken captive.⁠ To this day a testimony to the fulfillment of Jesus’ prophecy can be seen in Rome. There the Arch of Titus stands, erected by the Romans in 81 C.E. to commemorate the successful capture of Jerusalem. That arch remains a silent reminder to the fact that failure to heed the warnings in Bible prophecy can lead to disaster.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1101985028#h=22:0-26:397
 
LittleNipper said:
Hope of seeing the MESSIAH in JESUS of Nazareth ---- though HE was born in Bethlehem of Judea.
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I hope to see bigfoot one day. Anyway there is hope for you, I hear the end times are coming, soon, in god's time.
 
LittleNipper said:
after JESUS was crucified and arose and assented the temple at Jerusalem was burnt to the ground, the stones all cast down and totally destroyed -- except for a foundation wall
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Jesus didn’t say anything at all about a foundation wall being left. He said that ALL stones will be “thrown down”. Yet another incorrect interpretation assertion by you.
 
watsup said:
Jesus didn’t say anything at all about a foundation wall being left. He said that ALL stones will be “thrown down”. Yet another incorrect interpretation assertion by you.
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The Temple sat on top of a construction Herod had built to support the Temple. I called it a foundation, but it wasn't part of the Temple complex. That was entirely destroyed. The Temple of the rock now sit atop Herod's construction. You are simply seeking a way out. And you will not find one, except for CHRIST ALONE! The Bible is fine...
 
bongsaway said:
I hope to see bigfoot one day. Anyway there is hope for you, I hear the end times are coming, soon, in god's time.
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There is still a 1000 year Millennial Kingdom with the MESSIAH as the ruler. That will begin after the Catching Away of the CHURCH and the end of the Time of JACOB's Trouble/TRIBULATION PERIOD.
 
bongsaway said:
I'm sorry but all of that stuff is just impossible for me to believe, god needs to provoke his chosen people? What nonsense. You folks can read something in the Bible and it will mean a hundred different things to a hundred different people. Let's face it, very few actually follow the teachings of that Jesus dude that are in the Bible y'all say you worship. You turn what's in the Bible to suit your own beliefs. God needs to provoke his chosen people. Why, I thought god controlled everything, why not just make them believe?
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They rejected JESUS their MESSIAH. What you need to do is take the time to read the entire BIBLE. Pick what ever translation you wish (KING JAMES, AMERICAN STANDARD, NEW INTERNATIONAL VERSION) Just read it and where you have an issue, simply check out another version as a comparison and the notes found throughout most Bibles. It's not rocket science,, but it does take some effort on your part.
 
LittleNipper said:
There is still a 1000 year Millennial Kingdom with the MESSIAH as the ruler. That will begin after the Catching Away of the CHURCH and the end of the Time of JACOB's Trouble/TRIBULATION PERIOD.
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Uh huh.
 
LittleNipper said:
They rejected JESUS their MESSIAH. What you need to do is take the time to read the entire BIBLE. Pick what ever translation you wish (KING JAMES, AMERICAN STANDARD, NEW INTERNATIONAL VERSION) Just read it and where you have an issue, simply check out another version as a comparison and the notes found throughout most Bibles. It's not rocket science,, but it does take some effort on your part.
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An effort I have no intention of doing to make you happy. You cannot convince me the Bible is full of true and accurate stories, any version, choose one. Why do folks like you have such a difficult time understanding I don't believe in any gods, including yours?
 
bongsaway said:
An effort I have no intention of doing to make you happy. You cannot convince me the Bible is full of true and accurate stories, any version, choose one. Why do folks like you have such a difficult time understanding I don't believe in any gods, including yours?
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Don't make me happy, seek after GOD. You have no proof that there is no GOD. You cannot even prove that biological life is the end result of any possible event other than CREATION.
 
LittleNipper said:
Don't make me happy, seek after GOD. You have no proof that there is no GOD. You cannot even prove that biological life is the end result of any possible event other than CREATION.
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I sought after him through ten years of catholic school, I couldn't find your god and the nuns couldn't beat their beliefs into me, sorry.
 
The best way to identify a false teacher is when they deny the obvious...we should beware of any teaching that denies the obvious meaning of a passage and/or gives exceptions not found elsewhere in the scriptures/all scriptures are in harmony so make sure you understand them as such...
 
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