Facebook are banned in Iran

[jana]

People are usually misinformed when it comes to current matters in Iran, and the actual living conditions of the real, ordinary people living there. Personal freedom is very limited, but being a theocratic society, Iran seems to accept the manner of conduct in everyday life as normal, just the way others in democratic societies take their freedoms for granted. For example, use of Internet in Iran is reduced to a minimum, and social networks such as Facebook are banned. There is no way for the young people over there to connect with others from different parts of the world. That way the government prevents inflow of western ideas but also puts a padlock to the window into the positives that difference of information can bring to young minds. This topic can be discussed from various angles, but the one that I recommend you to take a look at is The Age of Nepotism, the book by Vahid Razavi that covers this and many other burning issues in today's global society. You can also visit the site www.thegeofnepotism.com

 

[scourge99]

People are usually misinformed when it comes to current matters in Iran, and the actual living conditions of the real, ordinary people living there. Personal freedom is very limited, but being a theocratic society, Iran seems to accept the manner of conduct in everyday life as normal, just the way others in democratic societies take their freedoms for granted. For example, use of Internet in Iran is reduced to a minimum, and social networks such as Facebook are banned. There is no way for the young people over there to connect with others from different parts of the world. That way the government prevents inflow of western ideas but also puts a padlock to the window into the positives that difference of information can bring to young minds. This topic can be discussed from various angles, but the one that I recommend you to take a look at is The Age of Nepotism, the book by Vahid Razavi that covers this and many other burning issues in today's global society. You can also visit the site www.thegeofnepotism.com

In Iran, China, and N Korea you will be taught their version/perspective of history and politics. If you seek to discover the facts for yourself then you are a threat to the state.

 

[jana]

In Iran, China, and N Korea you will be taught their version/perspective of history and politics. If you seek to discover the facts for yourself then you are a threat to the state.

How do you mean the treath to the state??

 

[scourge99]

How do you mean the treath to the state??

The governments mentioned ban the free access to certain information for a multitude of reasons. The main reasons are:

1) Belief that access to certain information is immoral and thus its viewing brings about social degredation. (for example, pornography)

2) Belief that certain information is subversive. (For example, articles about the 1989 massacre at Tiananmen Square are filtered to ensure only a pro-Chinese government accounts (or neutral accounts) are accessible to those in China.)

Simply put, the governments control the information because they believe authoritarian control is better than individual freedom in such cases.

There is strong arguments for both sides to the matter. Specifically, the censorship of information allows government wrong doings to be hidden from the populace. However without censorship citizens may be convinced of falsehoods and commit or support acts due to unrestrained information.

In my opinion, history has shown that the people have more to worry about from their corrupt/bad government as oppossed to deluded citizens. Thus the scales tip toward allowing the free flow of information rather than filtering it.

 

[Kushinator]

Thank god they do not have high internet penetrationin Iran. Within a year,half the country would have HIV due to the overuse of lambskin:mrgreen:

 

[jana]

Thank god they do not have high internet penetrationin Iran. Within a year,half the country would have HIV due to the overuse of lambskin:mrgreen:

I think in democracy societys everyone must have the same right!
Different cultures are more and more being viewed through a needs of global society that tends to marginalize small or in any way different or set back cultures usually referred to as uncivilized.
The Age of Nepotism

 

[jana]

In Iran, China, and N Korea you will be taught their version/perspective of history and politics. If you seek to discover the facts for yourself then you are a threat to the state.

It is really unacceptable!!!!
theageofnepotism.com

 

[jana]

The governments mentioned ban the free access to certain information for a multitude of reasons. The main reasons are:

1) Belief that access to certain information is immoral and thus its viewing brings about social degredation. (for example, pornography)

2) Belief that certain information is subversive. (For example, articles about the 1989 massacre at Tiananmen Square are filtered to ensure only a pro-Chinese government accounts (or neutral accounts) are accessible to those in China.)

Simply put, the governments control the information because they believe authoritarian control is better than individual freedom in such cases.

There is strong arguments for both sides to the matter. Specifically, the censorship of information allows government wrong doings to be hidden from the populace. However without censorship citizens may be convinced of falsehoods and commit or support acts due to unrestrained information.

In my opinion, history has shown that the people have more to worry about from their corrupt/bad government as oppossed to deluded citizens. Thus the scales tip toward allowing the free flow of information rather than filtering it.

Ban put on all the social networks thus preventing people to connect and share thoughts and opinions, no freedom of information nor speech are keeping youth of Iran or the country in a strange kind of vacuum...
It is really bad! Freedom of speaking is very important for democracy spirit!!
theageofnepotism.com

 

[Real Talk]

Such things are very common in many countries, at rpesent and throughout history.

I will not engage on the debate beyonds tating that I believe in freedom of information, but also in local populations being the agents of change towards this, not foreign itnervention.

I will instead present and interesting perspective.

In Soviet Russia, no one trusted the media. It was seen as either lying, or selectively rpesenting data towards a politicala genda.

In modern democracies, we do trust the media. Generally speaking.
Should we, and is this a good thing?
Especially when Media ownership is so centralised

I refer you to Noam Chomsky if you desire to ebtter understand the manners in which information is controlled in western antion states, and that we too should be sceptical of the naratives fed to us by those who control the mass emdia apparatus.

What I am arguing is that although it control excercised by these states was not a good thing, that the scepticism it created in these societies is. A scepticism we lack that would be benificial to somehow aquire (although not at those costs).

p.s. I am sure that Iranians do not trust the word of government news sources.

 

[RightinNYC]

So Iran sucks, thanks for the heads up.

In the future, please don't keep including the same link in every post. Thank you.

 

[jana]

Such things are very common in many countries, at rpesent and throughout history.

I will not engage on the debate beyonds tating that I believe in freedom of information, but also in local populations being the agents of change towards this, not foreign itnervention.

I will instead present and interesting perspective.

In Soviet Russia, no one trusted the media. It was seen as either lying, or selectively rpesenting data towards a politicala genda.

In modern democracies, we do trust the media. Generally speaking.
Should we, and is this a good thing?
Especially when Media ownership is so centralised

I refer you to Noam Chomsky if you desire to ebtter understand the manners in which information is controlled in western antion states, and that we too should be sceptical of the naratives fed to us by those who control the mass emdia apparatus.

What I am arguing is that although it control excercised by these states was not a good thing, that the scepticism it created in these societies is. A scepticism we lack that would be benificial to somehow aquire (although not at those costs).

In modern democracies, we do trust the media. Generally speaking.
Should we, and is this a good thing?
Especially when Media ownership is so centralised.

In modern democracies, we do trust the media. Generally speaking.
Should we, and is this a good thing?
Especially when Media ownership is so centralised

It is good issue???!!!

There is no way for the young people over there to connect with others from different parts of the world. That way the government prevents inflow of western ideas but also puts a padlock to the window into the positives that difference of information can bring to young minds
In book The age of nepotism you can read about that...

 

[jana]

So Iran sucks, thanks for the heads up.

In the future, please don't keep including the same link in every post. Thank you.

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[Ethereal]

Facebook are banned in Iran

You should start a Facebook group.

"Iranians against the Facebook ban."

Oh, wait...

 

[jana]

You should start a Facebook group.

"Iranians against the Facebook ban."

Oh, wait...

Heh i have started yet :2wave:
theageofnepotism.com

 

[tlmorg02]

People are usually misinformed when it comes to current matters in Iran, and the actual living conditions of the real, ordinary people living there. Personal freedom is very limited, but being a theocratic society, Iran seems to accept the manner of conduct in everyday life as normal, just the way others in democratic societies take their freedoms for granted. For example, use of Internet in Iran is reduced to a minimum, and social networks such as Facebook are banned. There is no way for the young people over there to connect with others from different parts of the world. That way the government prevents inflow of western ideas but also puts a padlock to the window into the positives that difference of information can bring to young minds. This topic can be discussed from various angles, but the one that I recommend you to take a look at is The Age of Nepotism, the book by Vahid Razavi that covers this and many other burning issues in today's global society. You can also visit the site www.thegeofnepotism.com

Nothing will change in the Middle East until there is real economic development that creates a working Middle Class. People need something to rally behind and there is nothing better than a foreign threat, real or imagined. The U.S. palys into this role greatly and are used as a means to sustain control.

The people in Iran will eventually overthrow their yoke and gain freedom. The U.S. and the rest of the West would be best served by providing economic opportunities in the Middle East, then the poor would have another avenue to turn to for income rather than jihadists and corrupt fundamentalist governments. If we act militarily we only validate the false labels placed upon us by the corrupt leaders of the countries as our actions resemble those of occupiers and oil thieves.

 

[scourge99]

Nothing will change in the Middle East until there is real economic development that creates a working Middle Class. People need something to rally behind and there is nothing better than a foreign threat, real or imagined. The U.S. palys into this role greatly and are used as a means to sustain control.

The people in Iran will eventually overthrow their yoke and gain freedom. The U.S. and the rest of the West would be best served by providing economic opportunities in the Middle East, then the poor would have another avenue to turn to for income rather than jihadists and corrupt fundamentalist governments. If we act militarily we only validate the false labels placed upon us by the corrupt leaders of the countries as our actions resemble those of occupiers and oil thieves.

The delusion that countries who perform well economically or have a strong middle class crave a democratic government has long since passed.

 

[Vader]

People are usually misinformed when it comes to current matters in Iran, and the actual living conditions of the real, ordinary people living there. Personal freedom is very limited, but being a theocratic society, Iran seems to accept the manner of conduct in everyday life as normal, just the way others in democratic societies take their freedoms for granted. For example, use of Internet in Iran is reduced to a minimum, and social networks such as Facebook are banned. There is no way for the young people over there to connect with others from different parts of the world. That way the government prevents inflow of western ideas but also puts a padlock to the window into the positives that difference of information can bring to young minds. This topic can be discussed from various angles, but the one that I recommend you to take a look at is The Age of Nepotism, the book by Vahid Razavi that covers this and many other burning issues in today's global society. You can also visit the site www.thegeofnepotism.com

Everything that could possibly expose the Iranian government for the total ****bags they are is banned.

Iran's terrorist regime is terrified of what would happen if the Iranian people suddenly started to think for themselves and began to demand change.

 

[jana]

Everything that could possibly expose the Iranian government for the total ****bags they are is banned.

Iran's terrorist regime is terrified of what would happen if the Iranian people suddenly started to think for themselves and began to demand change.

But we have to know that We should understand that if some conflicts do not effect us directly, indirectly we are all effected as a species that seems to work hard against its own survival

 

[Vader]

But we have to know that We should understand that if some conflicts do not effect us directly, indirectly we are all effected as a species that seems to work hard against its own survival

I'm sorry, Jana, but your post makes no sense.