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tshade said:
??? I think that is all nearly EVERYONE has focused on----with no effect on his supporters. The claims were not baseless. 1500 were tried in a court of law and found guilty. Had DJT not been elected , he would have been found guilty too....
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Nobody was charged with insurrection.
Including Trump.

Like I said, Democratic Party overkill.
 
Athanasius68 said:
Had they focused on Trump not doing his job, rather than making baseless and ridiculous claims of insurrection, it would have made them look a little more serious.
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Lol it's illuminating what wildly low expectations the right have for their leader that not only is not doing his ****ing job not disqualifying, but pointing out that he tried to overturn democracy is portrayed as completely irrelevant and out of touch.

Now we have a government that's blatantly criminal, ruled by the most criminal kakistocracy, and you people are still whining about people rightfully pointing out what an evil piece of shit he is.
 
Mr Person said:
My dire predictions started right around 2006. A defensive offense resulting from Bush's colossal ****ups, leading into a black man looking like he might win, to him winning, to "Tea Party" . . . and it's been unhinged and unleashed at the same time since.

The 15 years before were more restrained, but you could see it then too. "Permanent Republican Majority" + turning a real estate investigation into an impeachment about Clinton perjuring himself about a blowjob, which is *not* corruption in exercise of office. It's perjury, yes, about a private affair.
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I've always figured the turning point was Feb. 19, 2000, the Republican South Carolina primary. McCain had just crushed Bush in New Hampshire and a win in South Carolina would have finished him off. It was do-or-die time for Bush... and what he do? Ran of bunch of racist attack ads showing McCain with his adopted daughter from Sri Lanka, suggesting he had fathered an illegitimate black child out of wedlock. End result was Bush won South Carolina and the nomination. McCain was running strong before the ads, and had a lot of momentum in his campaign... without them, there's every reason to expect he would have gotten the nomination and became President.
 
Gozaburo said:
It's important to understand that MAGA views January 6th through the same mythos of the Revolutionary War.
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It was a real eye opener.
Gozaburo said:
The reason January 6th isn't a problem is because they view "the swamp" as an occupational force of bureaucrats and thieves.
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those who broke in and forced their will against others, i think should still be in jail.

As I do with all the violent people in all the rally's the left ever had. What is eye opening, is how tolerant the left is to hate and violence by the left, but wants felony charges, and the full force of law thrown at people who took a valid complaint too far.
Gozaburo said:
I'm still not quite sure how they are able to reconcile Trump obviously being assimilated by "the swamp", except he's made it 10x more stupid and backwards.
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Haven't you notices? All the swamp people are evil. He is possible a hope of cleaning it up a bit, even though he is part of the swamp.

Again. If anyone is going to criticize the people who broke into The People's House, I expect them to criticize organizations like BLM, and others leftist organizations that have regular riots along with their rallys.

Please, do not be a hypocrite.
 
Lord of Planar said:
It was a real eye opener.

those who broke in and forced their will against others, i think should still be in jail.

As I do with all the violent people in all the rally's the left ever had. What is eye opening, is how tolerant the left is to hate and violence by the left, but wants felony charges, and the full force of law thrown at people who took a valid complaint too far.

Haven't you notices? All the swamp people are evil. He is possible a hope of cleaning it up a bit, even though he is part of the swamp.

Again. If anyone is going to criticize the people who broke into The People's House, I expect them to criticize organizations like BLM, and others leftist organizations that have regular riots along with their rallys.

Please, do not be a hypocrite.
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That would be great if they were equivalent. But they're not equivalent. One wasn't a protest and one wasn't in defiance of the Constitution. The larger problem is that the self coup is very hard for trump supporters to understand.
 
StillBallin75 said:
I'll do you one further, back in 2015-2016 all of the following should have been automatically disqualifying.

-Birtherism
-Central Park 5
-Grab her by the *****
-Shitting the Gold Star family of Capt Humayun Khan
-Shitting on John McCain
-Mocking a disabled reporter
-Racist comments towards a Mexican judge

All of that shit, alone and combined, should have been disqualifying, but it seems tame to the shit he does in one single day these days.
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A garbage human.

Full stop.

Not worthy of the air he breathes.
 
SkyChief said:
Joe Biden is a disgusting, racist piece of human garbage. He always has been, and always will be.

Ignorant neo-Marxist LWLs happily ignore that. Likewise, the right-wingers ignore the events on January 6th.

There is perfect parity. Stop with all the pretentious pearl-clutching.
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Basically you're saying democracy should be destroyed because you don't like the other party.
 
soap box said:
I agree that it was the worst choice to prioritize in the campaign. Everything you posted is true. I have a perspective that goes way back to Nixon giving the Checkers speech. He persuaded Ike to keep him on the ticket. In our time, a total of five grand juries brought charges against Donald.

Trump has never refuted anything. I can't trust him. My only point is that he's president now, again but he's still the same man.
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Indeed, he not only tried to steal an election, he got away with it.

Think of the voters who know this, looked past his disastrous handling of Covid (80% of the country thought he was taking us in the wrong direction), and thought, yeah, let's give him another try.
 
Athanasius68 said:
Had they focused on Trump not doing his job, rather than making baseless and ridiculous claims of insurrection, it would have made them look a little more serious.
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Trump was trying to overturn the election. Organized or not, the violent mob was part of that effort. That's why, for hours, he didn't lift a finger to stop it.
 
tshade said:
in that small context, perhaps.................but one was a clear threat to our democracy, the other just a riot.

Nope-----no real comparison, not even by a long shot
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And thats why you guys are forever "puzzled."
The riot was never a 'danger' to democracy.
 
Athanasius68 said:
And thats why you guys are forever "puzzled."
The riot was never a 'danger' to democracy.
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Then you and I think very differently.
If the election would have been stopped, then democracy would have been harmed, perhaps badly and permanently. Over 1500 people were tried and found guilty, and Trump would have been also if not for the election.
 
tshade said:
Then you and I think very differently.
If the election would have been stopped, then democracy would have been harmed, perhaps badly and permanently. Over 1500 people were tried and found guilty, and Trump would have been also if not for the election.
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The election occurred in November
The riot was in January.
 
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