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It's important to understand that MAGA views January 6th through the same mythos of the Revolutionary War.

The reason January 6th isn't a problem is because they view "the swamp" as an occupational force of bureaucrats and thieves.

I'm still not quite sure how they are able to reconcile Trump obviously being assimilated by "the swamp", except he's made it 10x more stupid and backwards.
 
Jan 6th, the binky for the liberal soul.
 
Fox ever-****ing "News."

It's the most possible propaganda operation in history, not least because Murdoch straight up told us that that is why he set it up. Putin's propaganda doesn't rise anywhere near Fox's level, since Putin's is backed up by the threat of encountering a window. Murdoch's isn't....



.....yet.

Nonetheless, it convinces tens of millions of Americans to **** themselves and by extension everyone else in the ass with a steel pineapple. Again and again and again. Openly handing out culture wars but serving on the rich. And they still act like they believe. That's how much they hate what they call the "demon rats", thanks to Fox.
 
I knew this country was in really deep shit when January 6th wasn't a deal-breaker, which was obvious about a year into Biden's term, if it even took that long to be obvious.

Off-topic, but I have sometimes wondered if Biden shouldn't have actually offered to pardon Trump himself and instead prosecuted maybe a handful of the ringleaders. I know a lot of people who normally agree with me won't on that, but I think Gerry Ford was onto something when he pardoned Tricky Dick, which a lot of people assumed at the time was a shady partisan gift. Yet Ford pardoned Nixon knowing it would be immensely unpopular with no less than half the electorate. He was ****ed if he did, ****ed if he didn't. My opinion of him as a short-term, stand-in president, who many consider to be a historical footnote otherwise, has changed a lot over the past few years. I think he was much wiser than many people realized.
 
"Maybe he deserves it."

That was the moment for me when I truly believed any conservative American not completely emasculated by Dear Leader would have finally said "Enough is enough - God knows I hate Democrats but this is beyond the pale, this Cheeto tyrant has lost my support."

And 5 years later their morality, integrity, and balls are still the property of that anti-American wank stain.
 
multivita-man said:
I knew this country was in really deep shit when January 6th wasn't a deal-breaker, which was obvious about a year into Biden's term, if it even took that long to be obvious.
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My dire predictions started right around 2006. A defensive offense resulting from Bush's colossal ****ups, leading into a black man looking like he might win, to him winning, to "Tea Party" . . . and it's been unhinged and unleashed at the same time since.

The 15 years before were more restrained, but you could see it then too. "Permanent Republican Majority" + turning a real estate investigation into an impeachment about Clinton perjuring himself about a blowjob, which is *not* corruption in exercise of office. It's perjury, yes, about a private affair.
 
Joe Biden is a disgusting, racist piece of human garbage. He always has been, and always will be.

Ignorant neo-Marxist LWLs happily ignore that. Likewise, the right-wingers ignore the events on January 6th.

There is perfect parity. Stop with all the pretentious pearl-clutching.
 
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That you and many democrats do not understand this is part of why Harris lost in 2024. Issues that people mostly voted on in 2024 include primarily the economy and immigration. Almost no one voted based on Jan 6. If democrats want to be competitive in 2026 and 2028, they better figure out quick what people actually care about. Bragging about your ignorance probably won't help your cause.
 
Redress said:
That you and many democrats do not understand this is part of why Harris lost in 2024. Issues that people mostly voted on in 2024 include primarily the economy and immigration. Almost no one voted based on Jan 6. If democrats want to be competitive in 2026 and 2028, they better figure out quick what people actually care about. Bragging about your ignorance probably won't help your cause.
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I agree wholeheartedly that few votes from trump supporters were based on the horror of an American POTUS instigating a violent attempt to overturn the 2020 election.

That's a pity. And it doesn't speak well for the future of the USA.
 
I had a friend who texted me after dark on J6, we had lots to say, but I remember when my friend said - at least there's a silver lining, everybody knows who trump is now.


And I agreed. It was unthinkable that people would contradict what obviously happened. It would've seemed impossible that people would deny what we all saw. Followed by outright lies. Months later I remember a bozo on YT comments who answered about J6 saying "what violence?"

Whether president or pauper, the X lie machine is greater than any one man or woman.
 
Pyrite said:
I agree wholeheartedly that few votes from trump supporters were based on the horror of an American POTUS instigating a violent attempt to overturn the 2020 election.

That's a pity. And it doesn't speak well for the future of the USA.
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You think it is a pity and does not speak well for America's future that people vote for current issues that actually affect them and their families? Jan 6 had nothing to do with how I voted, I voted for the candidate most likely to do well at the job, which was Harris. Do you not think people should vote based on who will do the best job in their time as president?
 
Redress said:
You think it is a pity and does not speak well for America's future that people vote for current issues that actually affect them and their families? Jan 6 had nothing to do with how I voted, I voted for the candidate most likely to do well at the job, which was Harris. Do you not think people should vote based on who will do the best job in their time as president?
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That's not what I said. I'll copy and paste Post #16:

Pyrite said:
I agree wholeheartedly that few votes from trump supporters were based on the horror of an American POTUS instigating a violent attempt to overturn the 2020 election.

That's a pity. And it doesn't speak well for the future of the USA.
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I talked about trump supporters and their refusals to take the horror of Jan 6 into consideration re whether trump should be returned to the Oval Office.

That tens of millions of voters decided the guy who instigated and promoted a violent attempt to overturn the election and thus overthrow our Government would be the one who "would do the best job as President" is a great pity. And that this kind of mindset doesn't speak well for the future of our nation.
 
Redress said:
That you and many democrats do not understand this is part of why Harris lost in 2024. Issues that people mostly voted on in 2024 include primarily the economy and immigration. Almost no one voted based on Jan 6. If democrats want to be competitive in 2026 and 2028, they better figure out quick what people actually care about. Bragging about your ignorance probably won't help your cause.
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I agree that it was the worst choice to prioritize in the campaign. Everything you posted is true. I have a perspective that goes way back to Nixon giving the Checkers speech. He persuaded Ike to keep him on the ticket. In our time, a total of five grand juries brought charges against Donald.

Trump has never refuted anything. I can't trust him. My only point is that he's president now, again but he's still the same man.
 
Redress said:
That you and many democrats do not understand this is part of why Harris lost in 2024. Issues that people mostly voted on in 2024 include primarily the economy and immigration.
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The econ. was turning around----it was good on nearly all indicators. Immigration is a constitutional mess now. Trump was not the way to go.
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Almost no one voted based on Jan 6.
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That was the whole point of the thread !!! It is incredible that people did not vote based on this.
Redress said:
If democrats want to be competitive in 2026 and 2028, they better figure out quick what people actually care about.
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Any rational voter would have cared about January 6th more than the other issues, which were better left to the Dems.....
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??? Are you talking to Trumpers here??? Dems were not "smart" to vote based on Jan. 6th----they just used common sense and love of country. Why didn't the other voters...?????
 
tshade said:
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Had they focused on Trump not doing his job, rather than making baseless and ridiculous claims of insurrection, it would have made them look a little more serious.
 
Athanasius68 said:
Had they focused on Trump not doing his job, rather than making baseless and ridiculous claims of insurrection, it would have made them look a little more serious.
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??? I think that is all nearly EVERYONE has focused on----with no effect on his supporters. The claims were not baseless. 1500 were tried in a court of law and found guilty. Had DJT not been elected , he would have been found guilty too....
 
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I'll do you one further, back in 2015-2016 all of the following should have been automatically disqualifying.

-Birtherism
-Central Park 5
-Grab her by the *****
-Shitting the Gold Star family of Capt Humayun Khan
-Shitting on John McCain
-Mocking a disabled reporter
-Racist comments towards a Mexican judge

All of that shit, alone and combined, should have been disqualifying, but it seems tame to the shit he does in one single day these days.
 
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