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EXPLAINED: Why Texas will Secede from Union

Henrin said:
Why would people be opposed to trading with Texas?
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Everything imported is more expensive, mostly because of the hassle at the border. So everything from Texas would become more expensive, and eventually sales of those items will go down.
 
rocket88 said:
No, you wouldn't. It just doesn't work like that, sorry.
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Why not? cause we might want more money for all the gas and petroleum products we provide this country? Or beef?

Whats the real reason Texas can't be their own country?
 
Buck Ewer said:
Yeeeeee Haaaaaaw! The anarchist traitor has spoken!
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This quote covers it well enough..

"The principle, on which the war was waged by the North, was simply this: That men may rightfully be compelled to submit to, and support, a government that they do not want; and that resistance, on their part, makes them traitors and criminals." - Lysander Spooner
 
WCH said:
Why not? cause we might want more money for all the gas and petroleum products we provide this country? Or beef?

Whats the real reason Texas can't be their own country?
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What makes you think there would be no tariffs on beef?

As far as the oil goes, now you're talking about national security. That's reason enough for military action.
 
Henrin said:
This quote covers it well enough..

"The principle, on which the war was waged by the North, was simply this: That men may rightfully be compelled to submit to, and support, a government that they do not want; and that resistance, on their part, makes them traitors and criminals." - Lysander Spooner
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That's exactly right. Rule of law and popular sovereignty trump "I don't wanna follow your rules."
 
rocket88 said:
Everything imported is more expensive, mostly because of the hassle at the border. So everything from Texas would become more expensive, and eventually sales of those items will go down.
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They would be opposed to trading with Texas because of actions by the federal government. If the government did nothing to impede trade is there a reason the people would be opposed to trading with Texas?
 
WCH said:
Why not? cause we might want more money for all the gas and petroleum products we provide this country? Or beef?

Whats the real reason Texas can't be their own country?
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Incompetence.
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I wonder how long it would take Mexico to absorb Texas? I mean, the parts it hasn't already absorbed.
 
Henrin said:
They would be opposed to trading with Texas because of actions by the federal government. If the government did nothing to impede trade is there a reason the people would be opposed to trading with Texas?
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Why would there be no border controls? Texas would be treated like any other country. That's what you want right?
 
MadLib said:
That's exactly right. Rule of law and popular sovereignty trump "I don't wanna follow your rules."
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If a state joined on their own free will, then what is the reason that they can't leave on their own free will?
 
Henrin said:
If a state joined on their own free will, then what is the reason that they can't leave on their own free will?
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Because the Constitution is a contract, and a signatory to a contract cannot abandon obligations to the contract unless permitted to do so by all of the other signatories.
 
Henrin said:
This quote covers it well enough..

"The principle, on which the war was waged by the North, was simply this: That men may rightfully be compelled to submit to, and support, a government that they do not want; and that resistance, on their part, makes them traitors and criminals." - Lysander Spooner
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Yeah Lysander Spooner was a real gem:lamo:lamo:lamo
 
rocket88 said:
What makes you think there would be no tariffs on beef?

As far as the oil goes, now you're talking about national security. That's reason enough for military action.
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Ohhh so I've hit a nerve. There's no reason we cant be our own country and still sell our energy and other products just like we do now.
 
rocket88 said:
Why would there be no border controls? Texas would be treated like any other country. That's what you want right?
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You weren't talking about regular border controls, but sanctions and blockades imposed on Texas. Are you now saying that people are just against trading with other nation because of added costs caused by border controls?
 
WCH said:
Ohhh so I've hit a nerve. There's no reason we cant be our own country and still sell our energy and other products just like we do now.
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What nerve? We'd still take action for our own security interests. That's not hitting a nerve, that's just reality.
 
Henrin said:
You weren't talking about regular border controls, but sanctions and blockades imposed on Texas. Are you now saying that people are just against trading with other nation because of added costs caused by border controls?
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Oh , we'd trade with Texas, but what makes you think it would be a free trade zone? The increased costs would lead to people finding a more cost effective alternative. Even assuming that there's no blockade, which would certainly be in our interests to make sure that we control the Gulf.
 
Lol, the left acting like they wouldn't miss them.


If Texas took off tomorrow, they would become the 13th largest economic power on the planet....that's right, 13th. They control our energy for the most part. We would be on our collective knees inside of 5 years if Texas took independence. Better hope those border states maintain good relations....oil and gas doesn't come cheap these days, and they are the largest producer by a long shot.

As for mexico invading, lol. If Texas seceded tomorrow, they would have a pretty formidable military in short time, given the fact that they would be flush in oil money without a federal government to pay tribute to. Some of the best colleges in the country, brilliant minds, great businesses and policies...I think TX will be just fine.

As for federal property being returned, I'd take a gander and say many of the troops would stay right where they were, and hang onto what they have. People of the great state of Texas LOVE Texas. I've been down there a few times, I must say, I had a blast. Not crazy about some of the policies, but I'll take business friendly Texas over Taxachusetts all day long. Not crazy about their gay rights/drug policies, but we can work on those. They seem to be getting everything else right, take a look at them on paper business wise...they are killing it right now.
 
shrubnose said:
This is yet another time-wasting thread.

Texas will not be seceding or even trying to secede from the union.

Wait and see.
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My hopes and prayers are for this country to dismiss the Progressive/Socialist movement and return to it's former self where secession won't be necessary.

If it doesn't...
 
rocket88 said:
What nerve? We'd still take action for our own security interests. That's not hitting a nerve, that's just reality.
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Obviously you would rather have a confrontation than play nice. I told you there wouldn't be any changes in the way things are done.

We might even enter into a Free-trade agreement if y'all don't act like asses. ;)
 
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