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Every day I sit and wonder, how did the republican party get to where they are today, full of hatred and anger with talk of killing democrats?

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The GOP lost its mind a century earlier. When it supported corporatist Republicans from the late 1800'sthrough Hoover, and then with FDR, opposed him, and then bought into the red scare and McCarthyism and John Bircher, and then Barry "Extremism is no vice" Goldwater against JFK, and stood by Nixon in Watergate, and cheered Reagan's crimes, and impeached Bill Clinton and backed Newt Gingrich, and then Bush 43 then the tea party...
Aw, Barry was just tryin' to have a good time.

It isn't easy, having a good time. Even smiling made his face ache.
 

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You've had majority rule and all you've wanted to do is spend, spend, spend.....all of this during a pandemic....you paid people far too long to stay home.....opened our borders.....are responsible for thousands or hundreds of thousands of deaths from drugs pouring in killing Americans......are culprits in the largest human trafficking ring in the history of the world.....caught brainwashing our children in school with sick twisted perversions......destroy women sports......elected a guy, who had his son scouring the globe, scamming and bilking millions for his family, all paid for by the taxpayer...remember 10% for the Big Guy.....dishonor is an extreme disservice.

You're blind because of TDS, and simply cannot and are incapable of seeing the truth of the Biden regime. You're propagandists, and censor information that is not agreeable to your nutty ideals. Sick the powers of the government on political opponents, so they cannot run against you.....the leader of this totalitarian farce just called 75 million American Citizens fascists, and you smile with glee, oblivious to the hatred and utter dismay of others than those of your ilk. You cannot understand why and say, "wtf is wrong with everyone else?".....why can't they be as us.

You've been fooled and don't even realize the place where you are......these kind of idiots are the most extreme danger to our country. Given the chance they will kill any and all, who do not line up with their sick mindedness....100% guaranteed.

AND we're gonna give all your money to communism.
 

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Killing your opposition, literally, murder. How is this talk even tolerated? You folks on the right tell us about your great patriotism while you're beating the hell out of cops on the steps of the capitol building for god's sake. Every day on here it is one complaint after another, nothing good to say about america, every single day. They offer us nothing but their desire to rule.

If you plan on voting republican, what is it you are voting for? The dems in the first year and a half have gotten much accomplished even with the gop fighting them every step of the way. All the doom and gloom the donald predicted will happen if the dems get into power....we're still waiting.
 

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Killing your opposition, literally, murder. How is this talk even tolerated? You folks on the right tell us about your great patriotism while you're beating the hell out of cops on the steps of the capitol building for god's sake. Every day on here it is one complaint after another, nothing good to say about america, every single day. They offer us nothing but their desire to rule.

If you plan on voting republican, what is it you are voting for? The dems in the first year and a half have gotten much accomplished even with the gop fighting them every step of the way. All the doom and gloom the donald predicted will happen if the dems get into power....we're still waiting.
Minnesota man, Brendon Michael Daugherty, 35, indicted by a federal grand jury for allegedly making interstate threats against a Republican U.S. Senator.
 

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They believe that they're entitled to rule "their" America. It's the same mentality of the Christofascists that "discovered" the land and brutalized it and its inhabitants. It's the same mentality of the slave owners and such.
Indeed. After living with our freedoms they've realized it's not worth it because that means those they fear also have them. Therefore, finding a new way to run this country is the new agenda and they're off to a banging start!

Christofacism 101
 

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Killing your opposition, literally, murder. How is this talk even tolerated? You folks on the right tell us about your great patriotism while you're beating the hell out of cops on the steps of the capitol building for god's sake. Every day on here it is one complaint after another, nothing good to say about america, every single day. They offer us nothing but their desire to rule.

If you plan on voting republican, what is it you are voting for? The dems in the first year and a half have gotten much accomplished even with the gop fighting them every step of the way. All the doom and gloom the donald predicted will happen if the dems get into power....we're still waiting.
All you have to do is look at a photo of the floor of the House of Representatives with all in attendance. That is all it will take.
 
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Who to vote for? A lot depends on one’s personal politics. A lot of the left’s policies are totally unacceptable to quite a lot of voters. In our two-party system, the only realistic option is the right or the Republicans. The reverse is also true when the rights policies and agenda become unacceptable. There is a huge amount of folks in the middle between the agenda and politics offered by both major parties. They think both parties now represent the extremes. Who do you vote for if you believe both major parties are made up of extremist? Or as is the case for a lot of swing voters, they support the democrats on some issues, but are against the democrats on others. They also support the GOP on some issues while opposing them on others. Not everyone is a loyal partisan of one or the other party. In fact, Gallup lists independents, the non-affiliated, the less to non-partisans as making up 42% of the electorate today as both major party’s base shrinks.

I think the problem is both parties think everyone should be marching lock step with them with no dissent allowed. It is my opinion both major parties want power, and both want to rule with little to no opposition. Both will do everything possible to gain a political advantage over the other.

I do, however, think a lot of these non-affiliated, the less to non-partisan swing voters have moved toward voting Democratic over the last 6 years. It isn’t that they’re voting for the democrats or their agenda, they’re voting against Trump, Trump’s endorsed candidates and a Trump led party. Even I have moved toward voting Democratic more and more, only because of Trump. It isn’t I support the Democrats, they’re the lesser of two evils in my book. The party I want to lose the least, not win, but lose the least. In short, our two-party system sucks. But that is what it is. I do miss the long ago era when the Democratic Party was the big tent party and not a party of just progressives and ultra-liberalism. But with Trump around, the Democratic Party has become the least worse party. One’s doesn’t vote for anything these days, just against, voting for the party one wants to lose the least, not win, but lose the least.


What you are describing is ideological blockage. If Joe is a Democrat and likes Mr. John, then his neighbor Bo, a conservative, by deduction must hate Mr. John. It has nothing to do with the real needs of the people. The task becomes that of demonizing Mr. John so the neighbor doesn't get his way.
You have become, two silos, neither really set about aims & objectives who vie for control of congress, which is even more isolated and divided. You're buying a chicken pot without a chicken but, it's OK because the neighbor never got the pot!

Politicians have lost their fear of you, the voter. They've been driving you like a team of horses for generations, spewing hate & fear from both sides. Like bears who get used to feeding off your campsite, they are only going to leave when THEY want to.

I have no suggestions other than to say someone sooner or later will have to occupy America's middle ground. I would aim at the balance of power in either the house &/or the Senate, that way you can yeah or nay to your liking. But you would have to get rid of the idea that the only prize is the white house.

The trick is convincing voters that you can affect change without control of the white house.

Personally I would LOVE to be one of a dozen or so independents holding the balance of power! You want my vote? Listen, there's this water contamination issue in Michigan. ..

You'd get some things done, for a change.
 

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Killing your opposition, literally, murder. How is this talk even tolerated? You folks on the right tell us about your great patriotism while you're beating the hell out of cops on the steps of the capitol building for god's sake. Every day on here it is one complaint after another, nothing good to say about america, every single day. They offer us nothing but their desire to rule.

If you plan on voting republican, what is it you are voting for? The dems in the first year and a half have gotten much accomplished even with the gop fighting them every step of the way. All the doom and gloom the donald predicted will happen if the dems get into power....we're still waiting.
Republican are predominantly and assorted collection of "white skin people" !
History has shown, they want to control any and every aspect of American Life. Many of these Older Ones, want the 1940's and 1950's concepts they developed as a kid. Many Republican have been engaged in "white flight" every since "Fair Housing was made into Law"... They group together and think they are a model for society, and that society should mold itself around them.

They grew up with fictions of many sorts. "Censorship" was a heavy influence in their lives, many of them grew up on Leave it to Beaver, Fathers Knows Best, and and all those type of shows that indoctrinated them to think that was a model of society. set roles for women, and men had the run of the imagery that such media drilled into their heads. They grew up thinking women were the TV version of some "innocent virgin" and many expected women to act like that even when they were married, they promoted a concept of "fragility".... then the next generation grew up on stuff like Happy Days and those type of movies, The Waltons, and Little House on The Prarie, and the excessive volume of "Westerns", where women were seen in one of two setting, "as some innocent being who had to be protected by men, and always with some virginal demeanor as if she was naieve to human sexuality" or " she was cast in a saloon as a saloon girl".

Many have gone through a few divorces, trying to expect that imagery and conducts, and get perturbed when people don't fit into those "Media Scripted roles and neat little boxes.

Then when it came to people of color.... They were "extremely to non existent in those culture grooming shows". It's why today, a lot of Republican white people don't know how to interact with people who are non white or don't fit some of that imagery.

There were generations who were raised on that type of media indoctrination, and many can't fathom life outside of those depictions.

They want to pretend that people did not do much of the same things that people do today... People have been always living in broad variety ways... they just did not show it in the TV programming of the Early years.... It was the 1970's before shows began to actually deal with the broadness of society, and Republian grew up with a Censored Grooming, and they have and they still do, "try to sanitize" anything and everything, as much as they can to try and make it fit those indoctrinated concepts and images.

Overt and Subliminal Indoctrinating Programming... is what many have been shaped by, and they attack anything that does not fit within that "censorshipped containment concepts, that were drilled into them by such indoctrinations.
 

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Killing your opposition, literally, murder. How is this talk even tolerated? You folks on the right tell us about your great patriotism while you're beating the hell out of cops on the steps of the capitol building for god's sake. Every day on here it is one complaint after another, nothing good to say about america, every single day. They offer us nothing but their desire to rule.

If you plan on voting republican, what is it you are voting for? The dems in the first year and a half have gotten much accomplished even with the gop fighting them every step of the way. All the doom and gloom the donald predicted will happen if the dems get into power....we're still waiting.

It was democrats that were discussing the "total destruction" of the Republican party just 2 weeks ago.

If you plan on voting democrat, what are you voting for? More of Biden and his BS lies and trillion dollar senseless bills - NO THANKS.
 

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Many Republican have been engaged in "white flight" every since "Fair Housing was made into Law"..
Do not even go there. White flight involved mostly democrats.

Democrat controlled areas came up with certain covenants in deeds.

Democrats voted against Lincoln.
 

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Rush Limbaugh and Newt Gingrich are the godfathers of the present Repub party. Rush with a constant flow of lies and hatefulness for over 20 years and Newt with his list of hateful names to call Democrats in the 1994 election, as well as decades of hateful lies. And FOX, too.


It started with reagan.

He helped spread the lies about welfare queens.

When AIDs started, he and is followers didn't do anything about it because it mostly was in the gay community.

He made limbaugh and all those like him after him possible by removing the fairness doctrine.

He started it all but did it slowly and in a way that made people feel good about it.

He started the concept of just thinking about yourself or what was called the "me" decade. Greed became good. Screwing workers became good. Screwing people in business became good. Sending jobs to Japan became good and brought in "out sourcing" our jobs.

It all goes back to reagan and the first bush.

Every thing and all the republican politicians after are the logical progression of what reagan and bush the first started in the 80s.

The very scary thing about it, the next republican president will be worse than trump.
 
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Killing your opposition, literally, murder. How is this talk even tolerated? You folks on the right tell us about your great patriotism while you're beating the hell out of cops on the steps of the capitol building for god's sake. Every day on here it is one complaint after another, nothing good to say about america, every single day. They offer us nothing but their desire to rule.

If you plan on voting republican, what is it you are voting for? The dems in the first year and a half have gotten much accomplished even with the gop fighting them every step of the way. All the doom and gloom the donald predicted will happen if the dems get into power....we're still waiting.
Hate radio, FOX news each telling them over and over that they were special and spreading anger and hate at things that never used to cause anger and hate. Add in a nice heaping of racism and you got the rubes hooked.
 

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Do not even go there. White flight involved mostly democrats.

Democrat controlled areas came up with certain covenants in deeds.

Democrats voted against Lincoln.
Are you using a random post generator again?
 

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It all started with Barry Goldwater, and went downhill from there.
 

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It all started with Barry Goldwater, and went downhill from there.
In reality it began with the progressive movement, and Woodrow Wilson in 1913, and has worsened at various rates regardless of which party has been in control of our government ever since.
Most everything today is dependent upon one monopoly, the Federal Reserve.
Voters don't elect representatives, they instead represent a party candidate who they feel may bring about change in one or more issues they support.
 

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You've had majority rule and all you've wanted to do is spend, spend, spend.....all of this during a pandemic....you paid people far too long to stay home.....opened our borders.....are responsible for thousands or hundreds of thousands of deaths from drugs pouring in killing Americans......are culprits in the largest human trafficking ring in the history of the world.....caught brainwashing our children in school with sick twisted perversions......destroy women sports......elected a guy, who had his son scouring the globe, scamming and bilking millions for his family, all paid for by the taxpayer...remember 10% for the Big Guy.....dishonor is an extreme disservice.

You're blind because of TDS, and simply cannot and are incapable of seeing the truth of the Biden regime. You're propagandists, and censor information that is not agreeable to your nutty ideals. Sick the powers of the government on political opponents, so they cannot run against you.....the leader of this totalitarian farce just called 75 million American Citizens fascists, and you smile with glee, oblivious to the hatred and utter dismay of others than those of your ilk. You cannot understand why and say, "wtf is wrong with everyone else?".....why can't they be as us.

You've been fooled and don't even realize the place where you are......these kind of idiots are the most extreme danger to our country. Given the chance they will kill any and all, who do not line up with their sick mindedness....100% guaranteed.
Are you trying to say none of this was happening when trump was prez? I would venture to say all of it was happening when trump was prez, so what's different?

There is no human trafficking ring unless matt gaetz qualifies and our borders are not open, why do you guys keep repeating this lie to one another and we don't ban books.
 

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"You've had majority rule and all you've wanted to do is spend, spend, spend.....all of this during a pandemic..."

That's as far as I got. The right has been playing the pandemic like a football when it's out of your league!

You are not a doctor, nor an epidemic specialist. But you make these claims like they were law...they are not. In fact the medical opinion is you guys tried to come back too soon, and we got whiplash from the public who wanted border crossing privileges restored.

They are your people, Canada's far right

So you are expressing a POLITICAL opinion only..

And you really lost me with "for thousands or hundreds of thousands of deaths from drugs pouring in killing Americans....." Your a Trump fan! You think anyone is going to believe that?

When has that NEVER been? You going to claim Trump stopped drugs from coming in? Because locals blame him for increased traffic because of his nutso "Wall"

For shit sake, will at least one of you take responsibility for your **** ups? According to you, America was "perfect" under Trump's thumb.

Of course, the drugs did not stop under the Trump administration. It's in the sheer numbers of the Biden administration, the more illegals cross our border, the more fentanyl comes. The difference between Trump and Biden, is that Trump tried, not perfect, but he was not derelict in his duty, as Biden.
 

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Republican are predominantly and assorted collection of "white skin people" !
History has shown, they want to control any and every aspect of American Life. Many of these Older Ones, want the 1940's and 1950's concepts they developed as a kid. Many Republican have been engaged in "white flight" every since "Fair Housing was made into Law"... They group together and think they are a model for society, and that society should mold itself around them.

They grew up with fictions of many sorts. "Censorship" was a heavy influence in their lives, many of them grew up on Leave it to Beaver, Fathers Knows Best, and and all those type of shows that indoctrinated them to think that was a model of society. set roles for women, and men had the run of the imagery that such media drilled into their heads. They grew up thinking women were the TV version of some "innocent virgin" and many expected women to act like that even when they were married, they promoted a concept of "fragility".... then the next generation grew up on stuff like Happy Days and those type of movies, The Waltons, and Little House on The Prarie, and the excessive volume of "Westerns", where women were seen in one of two setting, "as some innocent being who had to be protected by men, and always with some virginal demeanor as if she was naieve to human sexuality" or " she was cast in a saloon as a saloon girl".

Many have gone through a few divorces, trying to expect that imagery and conducts, and get perturbed when people don't fit into those "Media Scripted roles and neat little boxes.

Then when it came to people of color.... They were "extremely to non existent in those culture grooming shows". It's why today, a lot of Republican white people don't know how to interact with people who are non white or don't fit some of that imagery.

There were generations who were raised on that type of media indoctrination, and many can't fathom life outside of those depictions.

They want to pretend that people did not do much of the same things that people do today... People have been always living in broad variety ways... they just did not show it in the TV programming of the Early years.... It was the 1970's before shows began to actually deal with the broadness of society, and Republian grew up with a Censored Grooming, and they have and they still do, "try to sanitize" anything and everything, as much as they can to try and make it fit those indoctrinated concepts and images.

Overt and Subliminal Indoctrinating Programming... is what many have been shaped by, and they attack anything that does not fit within that "censorshipped containment concepts, that were drilled into them by such indoctrinations.
Well said, I remember all of those shows. Where mom served dinner in a dress and heels and dad sat down with a suit on and the kids didn't speak unless spoken to.
 

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Are you trying to say none of this was happening when trump was prez? I would venture to say all of it was happening when trump was prez, so what's different?

There is no human trafficking ring unless matt gaetz qualifies and our borders are not open, why do you guys keep repeating this lie to one another and we don't ban books.

If you cannot see the difference between Trump and Biden on efforts taken to secure our border, you are willfully blind. The difference is night and day. The numbers went down under Trump, because they all knew it would not be so easy to get into America....under Biden, they are all coming, because of the simplicity of entering America.
 

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If you cannot see the difference between Trump and Biden on efforts taken to secure our border, you are willfully blind. The difference is night and day. The numbers went down under Trump, because they all knew it would not be so easy to get into America....under Biden, they are all coming, because of the simplicity of entering America.
Uh huh, trump went the cruelty route and folks like you cheered him on for doing it. Why didn't republicans fix immigration in the first two years of trump's presidency when they controlled all of government?
 
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