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European leaders unite behind Ukraine following Trump-Zelenskyy confrontation

trixare4kids said:
If other countries want to give Zelensky what he wants, security guarantees, by all means they can put their troops on the ground. The United States is out. C'mon Europe and Canada, put up or shut up.
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There might well be Canadian troops on the ground there. JTF2 were in Ukraine training Ukrainian troops when Russia invaded and a year later the NYT reported they were still there. The Canadian government always 'no comment's questions about those guys but when they were training Kurds they were known to engage ISIS with their trainees.
 
gbg3 said:
Oh Jeez, I hadn't reached this comment yet when I posted comment 558. "Simple"? Really?

Then why didn't Biden take that supposedly "simple" path? Why hasn't Europe taken this "simple" path?
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Yeah, what's stopping Europe and other nations critical of the peace deal from stepping right up to show us a "simple" path. In between their bashing of Trump and Vance, we won't hold our breath waiting.
 
gbg3 said:
He's been involved and had agreed to the mineral deal. He then arrived in Washington with a completely different agenda.
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Notice how the anti-Trumps ignore that Zelensky has not backed away from his objectives, instead reemphasizing the need for security guarantees to counter Putin’s aggression. Doesn't sound like he is on board for the peace deal. If the EU and other countries critical of the peace deal agreement made with Zelensky, they are free to put their troops on the group to meet Zelensky's security objectives.
 
MAGAnificent said:
Still butthurt over tariffs, huh? Zelensky is welcome to deal solely with the Europeans if he likes, it is in their backyard. They have offered to provide security. Zelenksy himself however said it will not work without the US. He just wants everything on his own terms. Perhaps he just wants to keep fighting and he was expecting the US to just keep supplying high tech arms with no strings attached.
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While you've got your Gulf of America map out; could you have T.Rump draw in a "Hurricanes Forbidden" sign? That should solve at least one problem.
 
Callen said:
No he didn't. He was deliberately provoked and bullied. He was having no part of it. It was not by accident Trump let that presser go on and on.
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I think your own anti-Trump sentiment is at play.

Shortly after leaving the White House, Zelensky posted on X:



Not exactly the words of a person who has been bullied.
 
dobieg said:
NATO countries think right leaning political parties are a threat as well as citizens who criticize their polticians. A jailable offense thoughout much of Europe. I could care less what they think.
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I couldn't care less either. Baffling as to why so many who say they are for freedom defend it.
 
trumptman said:
It comes from anyone with a brain.
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trumptman said:
The claim and rationale for support for Ukraine against Russia is that Russian aggression will not stop at Ukraine. It will continue on to NATO and when the United States has to protect NATO allies, we will be at WWIII.

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Seriously can Liberals not even remember their own rationales for supporting all their wars anymore? Look at the map if it helps jog your memory.
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Anti-Trump TDS clouds their memory.
 
trumptman said:
This is proper foreign policy. This is not "I"m a teenager throwing a tantrum" policy.

Just because Dad said so doesn't mean he loves Mom or sister more than you. Just go clean your room and stop being an ass.

Just because Trump has expectations of Ukraine doesn't man he loves Russia.

Emotional manipulation isn't done by grownups. Trump wanted a mineral deal. The lack of deal and Zelensky losing his his mind doesn't mean Russia gave him a mineral deal or that now he "loves Putin."

Math is real. The numbers have to add up.
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Why do some believe the United States is a charity?
 
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TamleeB said:
Actually…I am good. I know the truth. If you struggle with the new administration and the direction it is taking to take back our Country. I don’t really care. You can either hop on board, or attempt to distract. Makes not difference in the actual outcome. ;)
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Just vote them out and protest.
We aren't doing this sit down and shit up routine. You guys cried for the last four years lying up and down all day long.
 
 
TamleeB said:
Of course you didn’t. I truly suggest you watch it again .
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So he didn't. What was that about hello saying about info being easy to get and here you are not proving your claim?
 
911Sparky said:
Without a security guarantee? What would prevent Russia from invading again?
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god damn. would you please learn the protocol for the visit? it was ONLY to sign the joint venture.

The rest of that stuff will come. although now Z might just be on his own. Trump said he's not going to give Z the backing of a great power if he's not onboard for ceasefire/settlement.. Russia says the same thing about a cease fire, but without the USA mediating for Ukr
who are they gonna use? the EU? way too much Russiaphobia from that crowd
 
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