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Europe Mulls Sanction Against US over Spying.....

I'm still laughing at how some people are sooo shocked that the US was spying on the European Union.

EVERYBODY spies on each other and it's been going on for decades. Israel even spies on the US.


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Wraith8 said:
I'm still laughing at how some people are sooo shocked that the US was spying on the European Union.

EVERYBODY spies on each other and it's been going on for decades. Israel even spies on the US.


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The US took it to a whole new level, big difference.

Paul
 
Higgins86 said:
Problem is Europe dont rely on those bases for defense so it would only hurt America interest not Germanys.
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Those bases are very good for the local economies they support. :)

Not only that, but having stripped ourselves of those resources, anyone proposing military action in response to some atrocity or other would have no choice but to look elsewhere for those resources.
 
TacticalEvilDan said:
Those bases are very good for the local economies they support. :)

Not only that, but having stripped ourselves of those resources, anyone proposing military action in response to some atrocity or other would have no choice but to look elsewhere for those resources.
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Oh, dang.
 
TacticalEvilDan said:
Those bases are very good for the local economies they support. :)

Not only that, but having stripped ourselves of those resources, anyone proposing military action in response to some atrocity or other would have no choice but to look elsewhere for those resources.
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Support local economies? Lol this isn't Panama this is Germany one of the strongest industrial economies on the planet and they will make do. Maybe they will use those bases to make more cars for you to buy;)
 
Higgins86 said:
Support local economies? Lol this isn't Panama this is Germany one of the strongest industrial economies on the planet and they will make do. Maybe they will use those bases to make more cars for you to buy;)
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I'm not saying that Germany's economy would collapse or that any European nation's economy would collapse. Turn the clock back 10 or 15 years here when the economy was trucking right along -- even with everyone doing more or less okay, if they'd closed the university that grew up around my home town, the town would've basically folded up and there would've been a ripple effect. Money's money, whether the nation as a whole can live without a particular source of it or not. The point isn't to bring anyone to their knees, just for there to be a cost when someone acts against our interests.
 
TacticalEvilDan said:
I'm not saying that Germany's economy would collapse or that any European nation's economy would collapse. Turn the clock back 10 or 15 years here when the economy was trucking right along -- even with everyone doing more or less okay, if they'd closed the university that grew up around my home town, the town would've basically folded up and there would've been a ripple effect. Money's money, whether the nation as a whole can live without a particular source of it or not. The point isn't to bring anyone to their knees, just for there to be a cost when someone acts against our interests.
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Money is money your right and from someone who grew up in a RAF base in Germany I fully understand how well the local people benefit from bases, however Germany is independently wealthy and i'm sure they could make do. End of the day the German government don't want the Americans to leave for reasons you have pointed out and the Americans don't want to leave for reason I have pointed out. If America wants to remain a powerhouse in the region ( which your foreign policy suggests so) then they have to bite the bullet." We got caught, we are sorry and we will work on our communication between our government and our intelligence agencies".
 
Higgins86 said:
Money is money your right and from someone who grew up in a RAF base in Germany I fully understand how well the local people benefit from bases, however Germany is independently wealthy and i'm sure they could make do. End of the day the German government don't want the Americans to leave for reasons you have pointed out and the Americans don't want to leave for reason I have pointed out. If America wants to remain a powerhouse in the region ( which your foreign policy suggests so) then they have to bite the bullet." We got caught, we are sorry and we will work on our communication between our government and our intelligence agencies".
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Yeah, pretty much. I don't have any illusions or delusions about what's going to happen, I just put forward what I think an appropriate response would be if things go to far beyond words.
 
TacticalEvilDan said:
Yeah, pretty much. I don't have any illusions or delusions about what's going to happen, I just put forward what I think an appropriate response would be if things go to far beyond words.
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Personally I think it will blow over as Europe isn't quite ready to throw away a prosperous relationship with the US and gamble on China, but that's my opinion.
 
Dianne Feinstein should not be the chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, let alone, be a senator. She is extremely anti-gun and approves of the N.S.A. and other U.S. intel agencies spying on ordinary American citizens. Quite the twofer for the old hag.
 
What kind of idiot doesn't know that everyone spies on everyone? The Europeans already knew this, they're just milking it for a bump in popularity back home.
 
OldWorldOrder said:
What kind of idiot doesn't know that everyone spies on everyone? The Europeans already knew this, they're just milking it for a bump in popularity back home.
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Ye everyone spy on everyone. We all know.
Even simple people do it.

However, it is so childish to use it as a justification.
And it was so dumb when even Obama said that.

USA spied on EU countries like they were terrorists ones.
For EU more trustful is becoming Russia.
 
PeteEU said:
No the reality was that the US congress was isolationist as hell and a lot backed Hitler. Roosevelt wanted to help the Brits because he knew the truth, so Churchill did not come "grovelling" in any way to ask for help. Roosevelt wanted from the start to help the UK and France but were blocked by the Nazi backers and isolationist in Congress.
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Finally, the unexaggerated, unvarnished, untarred by nationalism truth. And even more astonishing, something PeteEU and I can actually agree on!
 
Coin said:
Ye everyone spy on everyone. We all know.
Even simple people do it.

However, it is so childish to use it as a justification.
And it was so dumb when even Obama said that.

USA spied on EU countries like they were terrorists ones.
For EU more trustful is becoming Russia.
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lol what? Everyone spies on everyone. There's no "spying like they're terrorists", there's just spying.
 
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