Ethnic Profiling

[Gandhi>Bush]

And, it is believed that God and Satan made a pact that none of them are to interfere with humanity until the End Days.

What the hell is this?

 

[kal-el]

Have you ever considered you might be wrong? If Christians are wrong and there is no God then this life is all we have....We are born in some mystical way, we live our lives, then we die.....

If your wrong then you and people that believe like you do burn in hell for all eternity......Can you afford to be wrong?

Think about it.....

Can you? Wasting valuable time going to places of worship,and adoring stupid pieces of wood, what if it turns out after death there is nothing, and this is the only life we have? Can you afford to spend countless hours worshipping a fictional character?

Think about it...

Originally posted by Gandhi>Bush
And kal-el, what makes you think, presuming there is a God, that he should interfere with what is going on in our world in the first place?

If there is a "God", wouldn't you think it is morally right to stop a slaughter if one has the power to do so?

 

[jamesrage]

Originally posted by Gandhi>Bush
That is a terrible comparison.

Are you kidding?That is the perfect anlogy.If I was looking for terrorist, which group of people would I serach for terrorist suspects?Would I search the 90 year old grandmothers from China,US,Britian or what ever country those 90 year old grandmothers come from?Explain to us all what sense would it make searching a 90 year old grandmother as airport.

 

[Gandhi>Bush]

Have you ever considered you might be wrong? If Christians are wrong and there is no God then this life is all we have....We are born in some mystical way, we live our lives, then we die.....

If your wrong then you and people that believe like you do burn in hell for all eternity......Can you afford to be wrong?

Think about it.....

I really can't stand that argument. Now religion is more of an insurance policy rather than spiritual salvation.

 

[Navy Pride]

Are you kidding?That is the perfect anlogy.If I was looking for terrorist, which group of people would I serach for terrorist suspects?Would I search the 90 year old grandmothers from China,US,Britian or what ever country those 90 year old grandmothers come from?Explain to us all what sense would it make searching a 90 year old grandmother as airport.

JR if you were doing the PC thing that our friends love so much you would......

 

[Gandhi>Bush]

Are you kidding?That is the perfect anlogy.If I was looking for terrorist, which group of people would I serach for terrorist suspects?Would I search the 90 year old grandmothers from China,US,Britian or what ever country those 90 year old grandmothers come from?Explain to us all what sense would it make searching a 90 year old grandmother as airport.

You make it seem as if Arabs are the "Terrorist Section". A policy put into place by our government that says something as prejudice and stupid as that only alienates more moderate Arabs and makes them more likely to hate America. We call it a war on terror, but terror isn't in the Middle East. Terror is here at home. Hatred is in the Middle East. We fight fear at home and we fight hatred abroad, that is how we win. You do neither by killing people.

 

[Navy Pride]

I really can't stand that argument. Now religion is more of an insurance policy rather than spiritual salvation.

No its not for people of faith.....We know what happens when you die.....I am just throwing out a hypothetical situation.........

 

[Navy Pride]

You make it seem as if Arabs are the "Terrorist Section". A policy put into place by our government that says something as prejudice and stupid as that only alienates more moderate Arabs and makes them more likely to hate America. We call it a war on terror, but terror isn't in the Middle East. Terror is here at home. Hatred is in the Middle East. We fight fear at home and we fight hatred abroad, that is how we win. You do neither by killing people.

I have a hypothetical situation for you....If you were getting on a plane and there were 5 people in line in front of you to go through security 1 eighty year old lady and 4 young arab men and you saw the 4 young men at the ticket counter biy one way tickets to their destination......Well the SG searches the little old lady and lets the 4 arab men go through with out a thurough search......

Would you feel comfortable in boarding that flight?

 

[Gandhi>Bush]

If there is a "God", wouldn't you think it is morally right to stop a slaughter if one has the power to do so?

If there is a God, it is fairly obvious that he left the ball in humanities' court a long time ago. It's time for us to change the world. God gave it to us, why the hell should he keep wiping our asses?

 

[Gandhi>Bush]

No its not for people of faith.....We know what happens when you die.....I am just throwing out a hypothetical situation.........

And you think that that is going to convert someone to Christianity.

 

[Gandhi>Bush]

I have a hypothetical situation for you....If you were getting on a plane and there were 5 people in line in front of you to go through security 1 eighty year old lady and 4 young arab men and you saw the 4 young men at the ticket counter biy one way tickets to their destination......Well the SG searches the little old lady and lets the 4 arab men go through with out a thurough search......

Would you feel comfortable in boarding that flight?

YES! YES, I DO!

 

[Navy Pride]

And you think that that is going to convert someone to Christianity.

I am not trying to convert anyone........I am just telling you what I believe in my heart.........Everyone has to make their own choice......If mine is wrong, no big deal..........If yours is wrong..........

 

[jamesrage]

Originally Posted by Gandhi>Bush
You make it seem as if Arabs are the "Terrorist Section". .

Right now young muslim seem to be the only terrorist out there flying planes into buildings and blowing themselves up.I do not see any non-muslims blowing themselves up and flying planes into building.

A policy put into place by our government that says something as prejudice and stupid as that only alienates more moderate Arabs and makes them more likely to hate America. We call it a war on terror, but terror isn't in the Middle East. Terror is here at home. Hatred is in the Middle East. We fight fear at home and we fight hatred abroad, that is how we win. You do neither by killing people

Just like a leftist to lable anything they do not like as prejudice and stupid.And what does serching young muslims at airports and other high profile places have to do with killing people?

 

[Gandhi>Bush]

I am not trying to convert anyone........I am just telling you what I believe in my heart.........Everyone has to make their own choice......If mine is wrong, no big deal..........If yours is wrong..........

If your's is wrong and the Sikhs are right...

It's a terrible argument to even attempt to make, and it doesn't speak much for your intelligence in either an academic or theological study of religion.

 

[Gandhi>Bush]

Right now young muslim seem to be the only terrorist out there flying planes into buildings and blowing themselves up.

And we should try to reduce that statistic not enflame it.

Just like a leftist to lable anything they do not like as prejudice and stupid.

Do you have any more generalizations to get out of the way or can we go ahead and try to have an intelligent discussion?

And what does serching young muslims at airports and other high profile places have to do with killing people?

The comment on killing was a comment on the entire war on terror which I unapologetically digressed to.

When you alienate the key demographic of terrorist recruits why do you get angry when you see a terrorist attack?

 

[kal-el]

If there is a God, it is fairly obvious that he left the ball in humanities' court a long time ago. It's time for us to change the world. God gave it to us, why the hell should he keep wiping our asses?

Well, that's our problem. We have always been left to ourselves. Why do you think that is? IMO, in this vast universe there has to be greater intelligence out there, but not a "supernatural" intelligence. You have to remember, all the authors of the Bible were indeed primitive. They could only describe things likened to their environment. If they seen even a simple flashlight turn on, they would think its a miracle. For example, if you landed in a simple helicopter 2,000 years ago, you would, in the eyes of the people then, be performing a miracle.

 

[Gandhi>Bush]

Well, that's our problem. We have always been left to ourselves. Why do you think that is? IMO, in this vast universe there has to be greater intelligence out there, but not a "supernatural" intelligence. You have to remember, all the authors of the Bible were indeed primitive. They could only describe things likened to their environment. If they seen even a simple flashlight turn on, they would think its a miracle. For example, if you landed in a simple helicopter 2,000 years ago, you would, in the eyes of the people then, be performing a miracle.

I don't understand what you believe. You believe that there is like... Kryptonians out there?

 

[kal-el]

I don't understand what you believe. You believe that there is like... Kryptonians out there?

No, of course not. But it is rather naive to think that we are the only inhabitants in this universe. We might be the only intelligence in this galaxy, but I believe that there are an infinite number of inhabited planets out there. I think some are less advanced then us, some are far superior.

 

[jamesrage]

Do you have any more generalizations to get out of the way or can we go ahead and try to have an intelligent discussion?

You are being a walking cliche labling something you disaprove of as prejudice and stupid when it is common sense.

When you alienate the key demographic of terrorist recruits why do you get angry when you see a terrorist attack?

So admit that young Muslim males are key demographic of terrorist recruits.

Why do I get angry when I see a terrorist attack?Because the terrorist are deliberately targeting innocent civilians,because I know there are self-hating Americans who justify their actions, and because I know that there are morons who would do nothing about this because the believe war solves nothing.

 

[Navy Pride]

If your's is wrong and the Sikhs are right...

It's a terrible argument to even attempt to make, and it doesn't speak much for your intelligence in either an academic or theological study of religion.

If the Sikhs believe in God then its not relevent

And here we go with the insults..why am I not surprised......:roll:

 

[Navy Pride]

Ghandi/Bush I am still waiting for your answer on this:

I have a hypothetical situation for you....If you were getting on a plane and there were 5 people in line in front of you to go through security 1 eighty year old lady and 4 young arab men and you saw the 4 young men at the ticket counter biy one way tickets to their destination......Well the SG searches the little old lady and lets the 4 arab men go through with out a thurough search......

Would you feel comfortable in boarding that flight?

 

[DeeJayH]

On another subject I joined your forum but for some reason I can't get in toi post.......My handle there is Navy Pride too...Can you check it out for me?

dont know what you are talking about. dont have a aforum.
was banned from the only other PolDEbate forum i ever visited

 

[Navy Pride]

dont know what you are talking about. dont have a aforum.
was banned from the only other PolDEbate forum i ever visited

Sorry it was Deegan not you...........

 

[Gandhi>Bush]

You are being a walking cliche labling something you disaprove of as prejudice and stupid when it is common sense.

Prejudice is an act of fear. Fear is weakness.

So admit that young Muslim males are key demographic of terrorist recruits.

I think they are who we should aim to coscilliate with and integrate into American society.

Why do I get angry when I see a terrorist attack?Because the terrorist are deliberately targeting innocent civilians,because I know there are self-hating Americans who justify their actions, and because I know that there are morons who would do nothing about this because the believe war solves nothing.

No one is trying to justify the terrorists actions. We seek to know why and how they could hate us so much that they would commit to such acts as they do.

 

[Gandhi>Bush]

If the Sikhs believe in God then its not relevent

They don't believe in your God.

And here we go with the insults..why am I not surprised......:roll:

I don't see how I insulted you. I said that your argument didn't speak much for your intelligence in either the academic or theological study of religion.

I didn't say you were stupid. I'm saying it's a weak argument for your or anyother religion.