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ToT supports concentration camps.
WTF are you talking about?
ToT supports concentration camps.
WTF are you talking about?
I have proof, and it's common knowledge, and stuff.
Oh, sorry, I'm just trying out your debate tactic. It's quite fun, really.
We've already gone through this, ToT. Nice try, though.
Ya those were new and different sources, its well documented and not really subject to debate as it's a matter of the historical record.
Do you believe every piece of propaganda that you read?
Mossadeq dissolved Parliament through a fraudulent referendum in which he got a 99.9% yay vote then he granted himself dictatorial powers, the Shah was the head of state under the Iranian Constitutional monarchy and had the power to remove the Prime Minister which he did, it was a counter-coup not a coup.
Arbenz was allying with the Soviets, he himself was a Communist, and much like Castro he began massive land confiscation and redistribution campaigns the likes of which when tried always result in economic catastrophy and more often then not in mass starvation.
In the 11 days after Arbenz's resignation five successive juntas occupied the presidential palace, each more amenable to American demands than the last, with Armas himself finally taking office at the end. He proved to be embarrassingly inept and his corrupt and repressive policies renewed civil conflict unseen in the country since before the revolution of 1944. An unexpected result of the coup was the ferocious condemnation of it by the international press. Le Monde and The Times both attacked America's "modern form of economic colonialism." There was a widespread and long-lasting protest of the coup in Latin America, with Guatemala becoming a symbol of resistance to American designs for the region................After the campaign, the CIA sent a handful of agents to Guatemala in order to gather and analyze government documents that would, amongst other things, find evidence that would support the CIA's belief that Guatemala was a rising Soviet puppet state, in an operation that was known as Operation PBHISTORY. Despite amassing well over 150,000 pages, they found very little to substantiate the key premise of the invasion.[6] The socialism that gained influence under Arbenz's presidency in fact had no ties to the Soviet Union. Nevertheless, some private sector leaders and the military began to believe that Arbenz represented a Communist threat and supported his overthrow despite most Guatemalans' attachment to the original ideals of the 1944 uprising.
Unfortunately for the Cuban people it was unsuccessful because now they live under a brutal tyrant who has destroyed their economy and turned the daughters of Cuba into whores for the international sex tourism.
Then give me substantial documentation.
No, I avoid the crap that GE, AOL-TimeWarner, Viacom, Disney, and NewsCorp pump.
A counter-coup?
In order to instill an extremely authoritarian regime, even by the regions standards, and replace a man who was elected.
Yeah, way to promote freedom...:roll:
And much like the rest of Latin America, most of the land was owned by American Corporations, principally United Fruit. Do the people of a country have any right to the land within it, or can a 'banana dictatorship' impse it's will on a populace forever?
1954 Guatemalan coup d'état - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The very reason it was unsucessful is because, unlike the predictions of the Joint Chiefs and the Kennedy "Brain Trust," the Cuban people rose up to squash the invaders, not Castro.
The CIA's 'army,' was defeated under the leadership of Fidel Castro and none other than Che himself.
I provided dozens upon dozens of sources I'm not playing your little games.
The Guanacahibes concentration camp existed it is not a ****ing debatable point its a matter for the historical record
No you didn't.
You provided a short list
Really? Then why is it that I can only find information on this on websites that are so blatantly biased that they're factually inaccurate? In fact, it seems that all of these sites are just copy and paste jobs from this article, which itself is riddled with factual inaccuracies.
There absolutely were camps in cuba. that's a fact. how extensive they were has been laughatbly distored by ffboot boy conservatives.
I UNDERSTNT the horror of communism. CUBA was not ukraine.
I know for a fact there were "camps" set up to contain those infected with the AIDS virus when it was first discovered, a
As for work camps, I wouldn't doubt they existed, but I see nothing wrong with them. Seems more productive to me than throwing criminals in prison.
There absolutely were camps in cuba. that's a fact. how extensive they were has been laughatbly distored by ffboot boy conservatives.
I UNDERSTNT the horror of communism. CUBA was not ukraine.
lmfao wow the propaganda coming out of your ****ing mouth is disgusting AND laughable
yes that's why they put homosexuals into ****ing work camps with signs reading: "work will make men out of you"
These camps were started in the mid 1960s the AIDs virus wasn't discovered until 1980, YOU ARE A LIAR AND A PROPAGANDIST!
They weren't and AREN'T criminals they are ****ing political dissidents, that's the whole ****ing point.
I would say the same to you.
They put AIDs victims in quarantine;
Yes work camps for gays to and I quote "make men out of them."No, those were work camps.
Many many many of them were but it's impossible to know for sure how many as their Judiciary was and is a political tool for the Communist party, "anti-revolutionary behavior" is still a crime in Cuba.8. Everyone ever arrested under a Communist regime was most likely innocent of any crime.
Notable Prisoners of conscience
- In 1960, Armando Valladares was working at the Cuban Postal Savings Bank when agents of the Ministry of Communications handed him a card bearing a communist slogan and told him to put it on his worktable. The 23-year-old Valladares refused. Astonished, the agents asked him if he had anything against Castro. Valladares answered that if Castro was a communist, he did. Valladares was convicted on a charge of placing bombs in public places and was sentenced to thirty years in prison. His supporters contend that he was never part of the Batista police as alleged by Castro supporters (as Valladares was only 19 at the time of the revolution), and that his imprisonment was the result of his vocal opposition to the Castro government. Conservative author David Horowitz has called him a "Human Rights Hero." Valladares claims to have been tortured and humiliated while on a hunger strike to protest prison abuses; he claims the guards denied him water until he became delirious, and proceeded to urinate in his mouth and on his face. Valladares was released from prison after twenty-two years upon the intercession of France's Socialist President François Mitterrand.
- In 1973, gay writer Reinaldo Arenas was sent to prison after being charged and convicted of 'ideological deviation' and for publishing abroad without official consent. He escaped from prison and tried to leave Cuba by launching himself from the shore on a tire inner tube. The attempt failed and he was re-arrested near Lenin Park and imprisoned at the notorious El Morro Castle alongside murderers and rapists. After escaping Cuba, Arenas described the horrors he endured under the Cuban regime in his autobiography Antes que anochezca (1992), English translation Before Night Falls (1993).
- On August 28, 1998, a Havana court sentenced Reynaldo Alfaro García, a member of the Democratic Solidarity Party, to three years in prison for "spreading enemy propaganda" and "rumour-mongering."
- Desi Mendoza, a Cuban doctor, was imprisoned for making statements criticizing Cuba's response to an epidemic of dengue fever in Santiago de Cuba which he alleged had caused several deaths. Dr. Mendoza had previously been fired from his job in a Cuban hospital three years earlier for establishing an independent medical association. He was later released due to ill-health, subject to his leaving the country. [10] [11]
- Oscar Elías Biscet, a medical doctor, has been sentenced to jail for 25 years in horrendous conditions for his peaceful, but vocal opposition to Castro.
- In early 2003 dozens of persons, including independent journalists, librarians and other opponents of the Castro government were jailed after summary show trials, with some sentences in excess of 20 years, on the charge of receiving money from the United States to carry out anti-government activity.
- An Amnesty International report, CUBA: fundamental freedoms still under attack from Amnesty International calls for the "Cuban authorities to release all prisoners of conscience immediately and unconditionally" and to "revoke all legislation that restricts freedom of expression, assembly and association, and to put a halt to all actions to harass and intimidate dissidents, journalists, and human rights defenders."
- Jorge Luis García Antúnez was reported to have been released from prison in April 2007 after serving his full sentence of 17 years and 34 days after having, at the age of 25, shouted slogans against Fidel Castro. García Antúnez was convicted of sabotage after authorities accused him of setting fire to sugar cane fields, sabotage, spreading "enemy propaganda", and being in illegal possession of a weapon.[28][29]
I like how ToT posts the same shallow, disproven propaganda repeatedly even after it's been utterly destroyed.
What are your thoughts on Ernesto "Che" Guevara?
The man, the myth, the legend? What he symbolizes or represents?
What you know about his real life? What you think about the commercialization of his image?
Anything and everything.
Tell me. Please.
he didn't "wage a war" he wandered around in the jungle doing nothing substantive. and then they killed him.