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Eric Cantor and Private Jet Tax Breaks

That is what I asked you to do. So please..
 
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JohnWOlin said:
Very good, and now that Obama wants to do away with it, why not just be like ok?
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You don't find it a bit sad and pathetic he is trying to trap republicans with something he actually wanted and they didn't even vote for?
 

Rep. Todd Tiahrt didn’t vote for it and it passed 246-183 in the House so I’m not sure where you come up with the idea that the stimulus wouldn’t have passed without this tax cut in it.
 
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GPS_Flex said:
Rep. Todd Tiahrt didn’t vote for it and it passed 246-183 in the House so I’m not sure where you come up with the idea that the stimulus wouldn’t have passed without this tax cut in it.
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You're making an equate between voting on the record against the final bill and not having anything you want in it. The equate is not there. Rep. Todd Tiahrt got the tax break he wanted in the bill, actually voting for the whole bill is negotiated separately. I think that he didn't like the spending part of the stimulus bill, but a tax break for his constituents would be great for him.
 
GPS_Flex said:
Rep. Todd Tiahrt didn’t vote for it and it passed 246-183 in the House so I’m not sure where you come up with the idea that the stimulus wouldn’t have passed without this tax cut in it.
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And, I made no claim that the bill wouldn't have passed without this tax cut in it. Where did you come up with the idea that I did?
 

It is a tax break for everyone in the US and you are losing me on the idea that he is somehow relevant to the stimulus passing.
 

OhIsee.Then said:
And, I made no claim that the bill wouldn't have passed without this tax cut in it. Where did you come up with the idea that I did?
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It sure looked that way to me.
 

Are you aware that corporate jet tax breaks were a part of the porkulus package? Whose big idea was that, exactly?
 
GPS_Flex said:
It is a tax break for everyone in the US and you are losing me on the idea that he is somehow relevant to the stimulus passing.
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You're not thinking about how bills are actually written (mostly negotiated) then voted on. If I had the tax break in a bill that I wanted and that I argued for, but the bill had spending on stuff I didn't want spending on would I vote for it? No way if it was going to pass anyway. That way I get credit (or more) for the tax cut from both companies and their workers while holding the party line by voting No. Rep. Todd Tiahrt isn't stupid. Neither was Obama for signing it. Stupid is thinking that Obama wanted a tax cut on corporate jets and Rep. Todd Tiahrt didn’t.
 

1) Please show where Obama called 250k the "private jet" crowd
2) You can get jets larger than that one for under a million, used
3) The President of the United States needs to be able to fight a nuclear war from his jet.
 
GPS_Flex said:
It sure looked that way to me.
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Nope, when you’re in the administration’s position you may had to have many of these compromises in the bill. You don't know if you will need them all or if you've done too many or too little. But, if I knew that "I needed Rep. Todd Tiahrt, R-Kan tax break to get the rest of my stimulus package passed" it would be fine with me.
 
Deuce said:
1) Please show where Obama called 250k the "private jet" crowd
2) You can get jets larger than that one for under a million, used
3) The President of the United States needs to be able to fight a nuclear war from his jet.
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1. Obama Calls People Earning $250,000 a Year ‘Jet Owners’ - The Wealth Report - WSJ
2. I posted the cheapest new jet you could buy. I mean after all, does it really count if you buy a 40yo private jet?
3. The POTUS doesn't need a ****ing 747 to make some ****ing phone calls. And he sure the **** doesn't need two.
 
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Ok, now your point is clearer to me. Thanks for clarifying.

So following your line of logic then, can you explain why Obama has proudly referred to his tax cuts in the stimulus countless times and claimed that those tax cuts, as well as his extension of the Bush tax cuts, helped save or create jobs?

You see, Obama claims that tax cuts do what republicans claim tax cuts do whenever he signs them into law so your point is invalid.
 
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apdst said:
You should really try and stay more informed of what your messiah wants to do.

Obama Calls People Earning $250,000 a Year ‘Jet Owners’ - The Wealth Report - WSJ
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By asking for proof, it means he's in the dark. How can you support someone that you don't follow? These people on here don't have a clue whats going on in the world, but blindly defend the president at every turn.

And just for the record, I've thought two jumbo jets for one man was excessive since Nixon on his 707's.
 

I must disagree with #3.

The POTUS does indeed need the Air Force One fleet and needs to have two of them with him whenever he travels. I think there ought to be a damned good reason for him to travel abroad (vacation isn’t a good reason) but when he does, he needs to be the most protected and connected man in the world.
 

Then he needs to get off the biggest and easiest plane to shoot down in the world.

If you think the ECM on that plane stands a chance against anyone with half a wit to shoot it down, you're mistaken. You can defend an elephant pretty well, but if someone wants it dead, it's dead. Put the man in a stealth fighter jet. Not one of the biggest god damn planes on the planet. He's not on a super jumbo heli, so why a super jumbo plane?
 
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You don’t know jack about what you are talking about.

I’ll leave it at that.
 

So he wants to just get rid of accelerated depreciation on private jets but nothing else?

Hmm, seems like ole PBO is in campaign mode again, stroking the anti business passions.
 

Obama has said multiple times that he compromised with the people that want tax cuts. Also, I’m sure he thinks, like I do, that targeted tax cuts can be a good thing. But, in his negotiating position he can’t promote a tax cut he wants since it so much better to allow a Republican to propose it then compromise with him. (I’ve don’t exactly this in business and with my kids.) So this thing Republicans have made about this tax cut is gaming. It will work on their base. Why?
 
Eric Cantor is a ****ing tool. HE was all for nickel and dimming government programs before, and now he wants to say 2-3 billion is not much anyway. Dude that is why I can't take these a** clowns seriously. It is all political games. And then some of you are saying "It was part of the stimulus bill that was pass". So... If they were against it at first then that should make it easy to say okay we can part from this.
 
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