Enough of this. You HAVE to show a photo ID AND Social Security card TO GET A JOB.

[Luther]

As long as they can get a federal court to agree, sure... It's can't be used a proof of citizenship test though... :2razz:

So... we'll just put you down for answering yes then?>

 

[bongsaway]

Funny. No leftists have responded. They know they have been called out, so they are trying not give this post attention and are dodging it.

Called out about what? I vote, I show my id, what's the big thing? What is it we're denying? Any other earth shattering threads you wish to start calling out the dreaded libs?

 

[ludin]

Funny. No leftists have responded. They know they have been called out, so they are trying not give this post attention and are dodging it.

They don't respond to logical reasoned factual arguments except with snide remarks and things that have nothing to do with the topic.
Only on elections do leftist never seem to have an ID.

Heck you have to have an ID to buy beer and cigarettes.

 

[BlueTex]

So... we'll just put you down for answering yes then?>

You still haven't explained how absentee voters show their id when casting a vote. If I registered 10 years ago online and have voted absentee in every election since, all the state knows is that I have a driver's license but nobody from the state has ever matched my face to a photo.

 

[Luther]

You still haven't explained how absentee voters show their id when casting a vote. If I registered 10 years ago online and have voted absentee in every election since, all the state knows is that I have a driver's license but nobody from the state has ever matched my face to a photo.

You still haven't explained how absentee voters show their id when casting a vote.

1st, I don't believe in absentee ballot voting to begin with

I figured out how easy it was to use my wife's ballot to vote for who/what I wanted. Just sign here honey.

I believe you should only vote in person except for some exceptions like our military etc...

 

[BlueTex]

1st, I don't believe in absentee ballot voting to begin with

I figured out how easy it was to use my wife's ballot to vote for who/what I wanted. Just sign here honey.

I believe you should only vote in person except for some exceptions like our military etc...

Oh, I see.. You are arguing "beliefs" instead of law... Carry on with your fantasy...

 

[Helix]

poor Republicans. a lot of people are probably going to vote against the precious unless they are stopped by dismantling the post office! Russia is onboard! are you?

 

[Luther]

Oh, I see.. You are arguing "beliefs" instead of law... Carry on with your fantasy...

Okay, so you're okay with voter ID laws?(LOL)

Say it! out loud

 

[tres borrachos]

Heck, I had to show a valid photo ID and Social Security card to get a job for people with disabilities that actually pays less than minimum wage. If you believe I’m making this business up, I can post a link if you’re interested. Also you need to show a valid photo ID to get welfare. You have to show a valid photo ID to open a bank account and cash a check. Enough of this nonsense.

Plus, EVERY OTHER DEVELOPED NATION requires a valid photo ID to vote. The Scandinavian countries that leftists seem to love also require a valid photo ID to vote. So please drop it with your lies.


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How does Trump show his ID when he votes by mail?

 

[Mr Person]

I've never had to show my social security card. Not for anything, ever. Not for getting a passport + passport card, not when signing a mortgage, not when creating a bank account, not when getting a job. Nothing.

In fact, the original is probably sitting in some dusty box in my parents' basement. I should probably request a copy, come to think of it.

Heck, I had to show a valid photo ID and Social Security card to get a job for people with disabilities that actually pays less than minimum wage. If you believe I’m making this business up, I can post a link if you’re interested. Also you need to show a valid photo ID to get welfare. You have to show a valid photo ID to open a bank account and cash a check. Enough of this nonsense.

Plus, EVERY OTHER DEVELOPED NATION requires a valid photo ID to vote. The Scandinavian countries that leftists seem to love also require a valid photo ID to vote. So please drop it with your lies.


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People might trust the GOP more if it didn't always try to bring up voter ID right before an election, and then do things to make it harder to get that ID in time. Maybe if you brought it up immediately after an election and generously provided all sorts of means for everyone to get one who wanted one - including those people with two full time jobs and one part time job who thus do not have three hours to take out of their day, the people you call "takers" - then you might get traction.

You might also get traction if you could actually prove there was meaningful voter fraud. The last time anyone tried, it was the Bush DOJ. They spent 5 years trying to prove your lies.

[FONT=&quot]The Bush DOJ came up with either 86 or 87 cases of technically invalidly cast ballot, but not fraudulently cast ballots, after searching from 2003-2007. Another thing I wish I could remember the link to came up with about 30-40 cases of actual prosecuted vote fraud over some period of time I don't recall, but in national elections, and only about 30% of them were convicted.
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In 5-Year Effort, Scant Evidence of Voter Fraud - The New York Times


But you don't. The GOP only ever does it to run the voter suppression game.




But you knew it, because I told you in response to the last time you tried running this game:

.... then why are you libs so against cleaning up the voter rolls? That has NOTHING to do with IDs. I’m waiting to hear you guys try diverting attention from this one like you always do.

(response at #4)

 

[joko104]

It is not that easy to get a state ID in some states.

In Florida, you must have 1.) an SS card - a lot of people lose them and it is not easy to get a replacement. 2.) Birth certificate and at least 2 items showing your address such as utility bill, rental contract/mortgage etc. A person who lives with parents and doesn't pay utility bills etc may not have those documents.

 

[jcgriff2]

How will Trump be providing his ID when he votes in the Florida primary?


Trump requests mail-in ballot for Florida primary - POLITICO

Trump is now a resident of Palm Beach, Florida, and filled out the necessary paperwork for an absentee ballot.

 

[Moderate Right]

I don't have to show ID to buy a gun.


Change that first

You also don't need an ID to steal a gun or get one from friends or family

 

[Moderate Right]

You don't get it, do you. The issue is not having to have at some point shown a valid ID in order to register to vote. The issue is being removed from the registration rolls for no logical reason AND THEN having to go through the entire process including your ID's matching with your current address in order to get back on the registration rols.

How many times have you moved just right down the road, not even out of the district and immediately changed over your ID's? Remember now, I said IMMEDIATELY. How many times have you done it thinking about an upcoming election? If they don't match during the period when you can re-register, you miss that election. Done and Dusted.

THAT is the problem. People. actual citizens with the right to vote are being eliminated from voter rolls for the most absurd reasons and left with little to no time to get all of their ID in line with their current address in order to re-register. Example, the SD Native Americans last election. They live on reservations. Reservations have always had very particular postal codes and address configurations which really don't jive and have never jived with the manner in which addresses are usually configured. Been that way since White Men robbed them of their land, broke the treaties they signed and put them on those reservations. They were quickly and quietly eliminated from the SD voter roles just before the 2018 election and left having to scramble to reconfigure their address or be left with no means to re-register to vote. How about the hundreds of thousands of GA residents simply tossed off the registration roles just before the 2018 election.

How about states that have no responsibility other than sending what amounts to junk mail to your address as a means to inform you that you are about to be tossed off the registration roles because you had the audacity to miss two elections in a row! You didn't move. You didn't do a damned thing other than miss two elections in a row. If you don't recognize the near junk mail that has been sent you and don't respond to it....SEE ya....you are tossed off the registration roles and you now have to re-register in the time window allotted. Miss the window....too bad! Some inconsistency in your ID....too bad. You could be a renter and your landlord may have reconfigured the numbering systems for the apartments in his building. Now you ID does not match your actual address....TOO BAD.

So the issue is not ID in the absolute sense. The issue is being tossed off the registration roles in a bare faced effort to suppress the right to vote and then having to suck yourself through the straw of re-registration within the time window allotted before the next election. It is a very simple game. If unscrupulous types continually find reasons to toss people off the registration roles some number not insignificant will simply be caught out by the timing. Missed the window?....Sorry, not voting this time. Didn't even know you had been tossed off the rolls? Sorry, not voting this time. Not part of the wonderful technology generation, no broadband in your area? Sorry....you are out of luck.

You guys make me laugh. Whining constantly about voter fraud and who gets caught last election in pre-meditated voter fraud scams....REPUBLICANS. Color me shocked.

While things can happen anywhere to anybody, people removed from the voting rolls ARE removed for a reason, usually no activity for several elections.

 

[Moderate Right]

Where is the in-person voter fraud that will be eliminated with a photo ID?


I don't have a problem with phot ID if it is provided to the voter without any cost and without any more effort than just registering to vote. If there is a cost required and there is any additional effort required to obtain that photo ID then it is just another attempt by conservative at voter disenfranchisement that was banned with the Voting Rights Act.

These people need ID for many things such as collecting benefits, buying alcohol, having a job, and any number of things. To claim that people cannot afford an ID is just biased liberal bull**** talking points. If you don't have an ID more than likely it is because you are an illegal and shouldn't be voting in the first place. EVERYONE has an ID.

 

[Moderate Right]

Literally the first developed nation that I checked--England--does not require identification in order to vote.

So much for this horse**** thread.

So, you are saying that everyone should be able to vote, whether they are allowed to or not. There are no requirements, including age. A bunch of 17 year olds could vote, claiming they are 18 but don't have an ID.

 

[Moderate Right]

In Argentina voting is compulsory...

In Australia voting is compulsory...

In Brazil voting is compulsory...

LOL. So, in a free society you are going to force people to vote against their will?

 

[Moderate Right]

I have no problem with a photo ID, as long as the government goes out and makes sure every US citizen has one. None of this they have to come in or pay for it, the government has to make sure by going out to the citizens to insure they have a valid ID. Once that is done, no one should have a problem getting a job or voting. Why do I want this, because in my state they tried to make those wanting such an ID to pay a fee for it. The courts said it was illegal as that would be a poll tax that the SCOTUS had already ruled unconstitutional. What did the state do, they continue to make people pay until the court said it would put people inn jail if they did not stop. Now the state has closed many of the places you can get a valid ID, especially in areas that serve people who vote Dem. So, if we need to have a valid ID, then it is the government's responsibility to insure that citizens get one.

Sounds like Nazi Germany to me. Where are your papers? Is this what you really want?

 

[BlueTex]

Trump is now a resident of Palm Beach, Florida, and filled out the necessary paperwork for an absentee ballot.

But how will he show his photo id? If he was voting in person he would have to show his photo id? Why not for absentee voters?

 

[Moderate Right]

How often. You need those ID's to REGISTER to vote. You don't need them at the polls to actually vote.

Fair enough but if you had the ID to register to vote then why don't you have one now?

 

[Moderate Right]

First prove that voter id leads to less voter fraud.


You have a solution in search of a problem

We already have proof that hundreds of thousands of mail in ballots get disqualified. That doesn't stop you from wanting to increase mail in voting.

 

[Moderate Right]

Called out about what? I vote, I show my id, what's the big thing? What is it we're denying? Any other earth shattering threads you wish to start calling out the dreaded libs?

If you show your id when you vote why shouldn't others have to?

 

[Stealers Wheel]

A valid driver's license or state issued ID card should be mandated to vote to prove your identity.

Why? Has this been a problem? When? Where? How did it affect the election outcome? Tell me a bout a REAL PROBLEM that your solution addresses, not some fantasy about what might happen if millions of Americans decided to take you up on your fantasy.

 

[Moderate Right]

I've never had to show my social security card. Not for anything, ever. Not for getting a passport + passport card, not when signing a mortgage, not when creating a bank account, not when getting a job. Nothing.

In fact, the original is probably sitting in some dusty box in my parents' basement. I should probably request a copy, come to think of it.






People might trust the GOP more if it didn't always try to bring up voter ID right before an election, and then do things to make it harder to get that ID in time. Maybe if you brought it up immediately after an election and generously provided all sorts of means for everyone to get one who wanted one - including those people with two full time jobs and one part time job who thus do not have three hours to take out of their day, the people you call "takers" - then you might get traction.

You might also get traction if you could actually prove there was meaningful voter fraud. The last time anyone tried, it was the Bush DOJ. They spent 5 years trying to prove your lies.

[FONT="]The Bush DOJ came up with either 86 or 87 cases of technically invalidly cast ballot, but not fraudulently cast ballots, after searching from 2003-2007. Another thing I wish I could remember the link to came up with about 30-40 cases of actual prosecuted vote fraud over some period of time I don't recall, but in national elections, and only about 30% of them were convicted.
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In 5-Year Effort, Scant Evidence of Voter Fraud - The New York Times


But you don't. The GOP only ever does it to run the voter suppression game.




But you knew it, because I told you in response to the last time you tried running this game:



(response at #4)

You don't work?

 

[Moderate Right]

Why? Has this been a problem? When? Where? How did it affect the election outcome? Tell me a bout a REAL PROBLEM that your solution addresses, not some fantasy about what might happen if millions of Americans decided to take you up on your fantasy.

LOL. Please provide proof that anything Russia did changed election results.