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Enough Of "Allowing These Murderer's To Live".

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Enough of the Killing!!!

Family of 5 killed in connection with escaped inmate ID'd

Highway shootings in one state nearly tripled in 2 years

‘I hope I hit one of them kids’: Woman fires shots into home with children inside

2 people shot in Wisconsin cemetery shooting

41-year sentence for Ex-Air Force sergeant who killed guard

Enraged Ex Guns Down Two College Students in Megachurch Parking Lot

Customer charged in fatal Queens shooting of beloved Chinese food delivery worker Zhiwen Yan

*this is just a few listing in the last few days)

We need the "Death Penalty" in these special circumstance cases, For Any One who engages in "Random Murders", "Mass Murders", "Drive By Shooters", "Gang Murders", and "Rapist".
- No more of leaving these people to play the appeals game for 20 yrs and then they get out of jail. (These type of Barbaric Savages do not need to be in Civil and Civic Society)
  • We better learn from other countries. "China just solve the issue and be done with it for these kind of killer" - They simply 'execute them", they don't have time to all these people to go back on the streets and do more criminal acts.
  • No more of that crap of people getting on the media, talking about "Oh he/she was always so quiet and etc"... Fact is simply, "These People are Murderers and Rapist !!!!"

For anyone stealing anyone personal items, cars, and robbing people and business, and breaking in people homes or businesses they need "A Singaporean Cane Put To Their Ass" and then "Sentence them to Jail, without parole. None of this 1yr and 2 yr crap.

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People watched those asshole attack the U.S. Capitol in an attempted Coup D'etat and People trying to Over Throw Democracy and people "ignoring congressional subpoena: and now people think they can get away with anything. That along with people trying to claim mental illness to stay our a main prison cell.... and they think they can engage their savagery and get off easy.
We have all these little dumb ass kids continuing plotting to kill others kids at school.... (there is no need to try and think anyone can rehab some kid who plotted to kill other schools kids, just execute them and be done with it.
We have gang members, using these young kids to commit murders, these people both need to be executed. No more gang members leading people to become contract killers, and those dumb enough to do the contract killing.. does not need to be in Civic and Civil Society.
We need the "Death Penalty" in these special circumstance cases
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We need a Mandatory 50 yr Prison Sentence, no possibility of parole for anyone who incite/or influence Attacks The U.S. Capitol or Attack incite/or influence Attacks The U.S. Capitol or Attack ANY State Capitol, or Any City Hall.
Any member of Congress who does not report to a Congressional Subpeona , is to be "immediate removed for off and never allowed to work in any government capacity ever again. any professional license they have, is immediately rovoken and never to be reenstated.
 
Instead of responding this rather ranty demand for harsher penalties, I'll say we need to be harsher in one area, the prosecution of traitor ex-presidents who are at war against our democracy, in league with foreign enemies.
 
We need the "Death Penalty" in these special circumstance cases, For Any One who engages in "Random Murders", "Mass Murders", "Drive By Shooters", "Gang Murders", and "Rapist".

Obama dropped a bomb every 20 minutes for eight years and you voted for him twice.
 
Instead of responding this rather ranty demand for harsher penalties, I'll say we need to be harsher in one area, the prosecution of traitor ex-presidents who are at war against our democracy, in league with foreign enemies.
Yes, I should have added that to the list !!!!!!!

Trump should have been "charged and given the Highest Penalty for "Treason""..

18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason​

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 807; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(2)(J), Sept. 1

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America as a Nation and its Governing and Legal System must make it clear that not only such a Treasonous President as Trump, but The Governors and Politician That Backed and Supported His Treason. Get The Same - No vigilantism, this should be done by The Department of Justice. Thse types don't need to linger in prison playing the appeal game, wasting Tax Payer Resources, ....
Trump continues to talk shit because he think his "file a lawsuit" game is going to get him a "pass" for the damage he did to this nation and how he led the people to become barbaric and engage savagery against America and American Democracy, still need to be charged and penalized!!! All those who assisted him, should get minimum 20 yrs and stripped of their possessions.
 
Instead of responding this rather ranty demand for harsher penalties, I'll say we need to be harsher in one area, the prosecution of traitor ex-presidents who are at war against our democracy, in league with foreign enemies.
Exactly the type of empty, vacuous idiocy that ensures the problems will continue.
 
Neither is letting them out of prison, yet that is too often done.

The murderer of 5 was an escaped convict.

I tend to think we incarcerate way too many non-violent or barely violent offenders. We should reserve prisons for the most dangerous of the bunch and then spend the money we save on making sure that violent prisoners stay confined
 
The murderer of 5 was an escaped convict.

I tend to think we incarcerate way too many non-violent or barely violent offenders. We should reserve prisons for the most dangerous of the bunch and then spend the money we save on making sure that violent prisoners stay confined

Proverbs 26:3

A whip for the horse, a bridle for the donkey, and a rod for the back of fools.
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a "cane to the ass" is a big deterrent (read the comments)
 
Please post your suggestion for dealing with these crimes:
 
The murderer of 5 was an escaped convict.

I tend to think we incarcerate way too many non-violent or barely violent offenders. We should reserve prisons for the most dangerous of the bunch and then spend the money we save on making sure that violent prisoners stay confined

I disagree, which is one reason that we have so much “gun crime” and recidivism. Illegal gun possession is, by definition, not a violent crime, yet ceratainly indicates a willingness (and criminal intent) to become extremely violent.
 
"The government should kill people because killing people is wrong."
 
Enough of the Killing!!!

Family of 5 killed in connection with escaped inmate ID'd

Highway shootings in one state nearly tripled in 2 years

‘I hope I hit one of them kids’: Woman fires shots into home with children inside

2 people shot in Wisconsin cemetery shooting

41-year sentence for Ex-Air Force sergeant who killed guard

Enraged Ex Guns Down Two College Students in Megachurch Parking Lot

Customer charged in fatal Queens shooting of beloved Chinese food delivery worker Zhiwen Yan

*this is just a few listing in the last few days)

We need the "Death Penalty" in these special circumstance cases, For Any One who engages in "Random Murders", "Mass Murders", "Drive By Shooters", "Gang Murders", and "Rapist".
- No more of leaving these people to play the appeals game for 20 yrs and then they get out of jail. (These type of Barbaric Savages do not need to be in Civil and Civic Society)
  • We better learn from other countries. "China just solve the issue and be done with it for these kind of killer" - They simply 'execute them", they don't have time to all these people to go back on the streets and do more criminal acts.
  • No more of that crap of people getting on the media, talking about "Oh he/she was always so quiet and etc"... Fact is simply, "These People are Murderers and Rapist !!!!"

For anyone stealing anyone personal items, cars, and robbing people and business, and breaking in people homes or businesses they need "A Singaporean Cane Put To Their Ass" and then "Sentence them to Jail, without parole. None of this 1yr and 2 yr crap.

____________

People watched those asshole attack the U.S. Capitol in an attempted Coup D'etat and People trying to Over Throw Democracy and people "ignoring congressional subpoena: and now people think they can get away with anything. That along with people trying to claim mental illness to stay our a main prison cell.... and they think they can engage their savagery and get off easy.
We have all these little dumb ass kids continuing plotting to kill others kids at school.... (there is no need to try and think anyone can rehab some kid who plotted to kill other schools kids, just execute them and be done with it.
We have gang members, using these young kids to commit murders, these people both need to be executed. No more gang members leading people to become contract killers, and those dumb enough to do the contract killing.. does not need to be in Civic and Civil Society.
We need the "Death Penalty" in these special circumstance cases
----------------

We need a Mandatory 50 yr Prison Sentence, no possibility of parole for anyone who incite/or influence Attacks The U.S. Capitol or Attack incite/or influence Attacks The U.S. Capitol or Attack ANY State Capitol, or Any City Hall.
Any member of Congress who does not report to a Congressional Subpeona , is to be "immediate removed for off and never allowed to work in any government capacity ever again. any professional license they have, is immediately rovoken and never to be reenstated.

The problem here is that although these crimes are horrific and the perpetrator may deserve to die, we never have 100% certainty that the wrong person is imprisoned.

To paraphrase a well know saying, it's better for 100 criminals who ought to be executed to not be executed than for one innocent man or woman to be executed.
 
The problem here is that although these crimes are horrific and the perpetrator may deserve to die, we never have 100% certainty that the wrong person is imprisoned.

To paraphrase a well know saying, it's better for 100 criminals who ought to be executed to not be executed than for one innocent man or woman to be executed.
I can agree to that... but when its "conclusive"... then the punishment fits.
 
I can agree to that... but when its "conclusive"... then the punishment fits.

The problem is, it's supposed to always be conclusive. Beyond any reasonable doubt.

But "conclusive", as you use it, would mean "beyond any possibility of doubt". There is no official standard for verdicts that uses that test. So it remains that we put people in prisons if they have been convicted beyond reasonable doubt, but we're never really absolutely, unequivocably, 100% sure.

That's why I oppose the death penalty.
 
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