England and Wales to hold inquiry into grooming gangs

[OlNate]

Yes, you are both complicit as you indulge in nothing but apologetics.

Are you actually accusing them of being complicit in a crime for sharing their opinion?

Please answer yes or no.

 

[Infinite Chaos]

was there no such grooming in Scotland?

There will have been, all depends on whether Scottish police kept statistics on ethnicity of perpetrators.
The last grooming gang publicised in Scotland was white, I think someone started a thread about it but because there were no brown kids - nobody cared, especially our American "friends" who have zero interest in children's safety unless muslims are the ones doing the endangering.

Again..they singling out specific ethnicity and religions and that fuels the anti immigrant racist neo nazi shit that we need to get rid off. The report should be about pedophilea in the UK, where it happens and how to stop it. This can be done without singling out ethnic minorities.

That was the Baroness Jay report. That uncovered all sorts of horrors across society but nobody cared because it wasn't just focused on muslims.

Child sex abuse: The horrific findings of a seven-year inquiry

The inquiry, launched after the Jimmy Savile scandal, took seven years - so what have we learned?

www.bbc.co.uk

Nothing wrong with an inquiry into specific elements and yes, I would also support national inquiries into the Catholic Church as self-investigation clearly does not work for our religious people.

 

[Gardener]

Are you actually accusing them of being complicit in a crime for sharing their opinion?

Please answer yes or no.

Do you consider 14-year-old British children to be "easy meat" because they are white? Those you support sure do.

The reasons these rapes went on so long is all you people covering up for the REAL racists in this situation by abusing any who pointed out the actual racism involved.

 

[OlNate]

Do you consider 14-year-old British children to be "easy meat" because they are white? Those you support sure do.

The reasons these rapes went on so long is all you people covering up for the REAL racists in this situation by abusing any who pointed out the actual racism involved.

A) This is not a yes or no response, you clearly have some comprehension issues that go along with your riding the line on what is allowed in this forum, in terms of suggesting other members are "complicit" in criminal activity.

B) I have not stated what I support, so you are creating a strawman out of literally nothing at all, further confirming that you do not belong in an intellectual debate forum, due to, well, lack of intellect.

Answer the question I asked with a yes or a no response so that I can either report you or make you walk back your bullshit. Or don't, and show everyone just how courageous you really are...

 

[Gardener]

A) This is not a yes or no response, you clearly have some comprehension issues that go along with your riding the line on what is allowed in this forum, in terms of suggesting other members are "complicit" in criminal activity.

B) I have not stated what I support, so you are creating a strawman out of literally nothing at all, further confirming that you do not belong in an intellectual debate forum, due to, well, lack of intellect.

Answer the question I asked with a yes or a no response so that I can either report you or make you walk back your bullshit. Or don't, and show everyone just how courageous you really are...

You enable the rape of children when you intimidate those who oppose it into silence.

I realize you wish to reduce the complexity of the world down to your ability to comprehend it, but this is not a simple-minded yes/no question. These rapes were enabled by those like you who get your rocks off by calling people racists for opposing the racist nature of these gang rape.

Your concern is not with the victims, but by your need to assuage your own intense feelings of inadequacy by adopting a false sense of superiority over others.

 

[OlNate]

You enable the rape of children when you intimidate those who oppose it into silence.

I realize you wish to reduce the complexity of the world down to your ability to comprehend it, but this is not a simple-minded yes/no question. These rapes were enabled by those like you who get your rocks off by calling people racists for opposing the racist nature of these gang rape.

Your concern is not with the victims, but by your need to assuage your own intense feelings of inadequacy by adopting a false sense of superiority over others.

Cool, this has been forwarded to the appropriate people.

As for my position, I am absolutely for holding those responsible for these crimes accountable. Your attempt to paint me otherwise is disgusting, especially given that I have said none of what you are accusing me of. I simply asked if you were accusing members of being complicit in a crime. The rest is all you, bud.

All I can hope is that you continue to ignore the rules of this site, and that the inevitable takes place.

 

[Infinite Chaos]

Do you consider 14-year-old British children to be "easy meat" because they are white?

Strangely, the only person I have ever seen make this claim on the forums is you. It's not something I nor anyone else on this forum has done.

Could you post specific links to such comments? Failure to do so will expose you as lying through your teeth yet again.

Those you support sure do.

Is this a shaking a fist at some imaginary strawmen or real actual people here on the forum?

Could you post specific links to such comments? Failure to do so will expose you as lying through your teeth yet again.

Your concern is not with the victims

That's truly ironic coming from you.

 

[Gardener]

Strangely, the only person I have ever seen make this claim on the forums is you. It's not something I nor anyone else on this forum has done.

Could you post specific links to such comments? Failure to do so will expose you as lying through your teeth yet again.



Is this a shaking a fist at some imaginary strawmen or real actual people here on the forum?

Could you post specific links to such comments? Failure to do so will expose you as lying through your teeth yet again.



That's truly ironic coming from you.

The "easy meat" references are very well known. You support the actions, so deny the reality.

Easy Meat

Peter McLoughlin spent years believing the Leftist narrative, namely it was 'a racist myth' that organised Muslim groups in Britain and the Netherlands ('grooming gangs') were luring white schoolgirls into a life of prostitution. But in 2009 he first encountered people who said their children...

books.google.com

 

[Gardener]

Are you still much in the habit of referring to the children as "delicate white flowers" in order to mock them while implying they are not victims, InfiniteChaos?

 

[Infinite Chaos]

The "easy meat" references are very well known. You support the actions, so deny the reality.

Easy Meat

Peter McLoughlin spent years believing the Leftist narrative, namely it was 'a racist myth' that organised Muslim groups in Britain and the Netherlands ('grooming gangs') were luring white schoolgirls into a life of prostitution. But in 2009 he first encountered people who said their children...

books.google.com

Are you still much in the habit of referring to the children as "delicate white flowers" in order to mock them while implying they are not victims, InfiniteChaos?

Post your links.

 

[Gardener]

Post your links.

You know you said it. I even had it as my sig line for quite some time, and you only demand it because you know it is too old to access.

How sleazy and dishonest can you get, anyway?

 

[Infinite Chaos]

You know you said it. I even had it as my sig line for quite some time, and you only demand it because you know it is too old to access.

How sleazy and dishonest can you get, anyway?

Ah, so make a lie up and claim you can't access it.

Just to prove you wrong about the forum search, here's a quick search for one of my first posts on the subject where Jack Straw had mentioned the problem..

Post in thread '"culture of silence"'

Jan 8, 2011

Asian sex gangs: 'Culture of silence' allows grooming of white girls for fear of being racist | Mail Online

Not quite a culture of silence, Ann Cryer MP raised this many years ago. Jack Straw has been on TV (as Mancs Skipper posted a link very early on in the thread) to explain this is a very specific - meaning one national group of muslims (Pakistani) only.

He explained that in his constituency, the muslims of Indian origin did well at school, integrated and worked hard to get on however the young men of Pakistani origin did less well at school and that a minority then...

• Infinite Chaos

• 

Look in the mirror before you claim anyone else is "sleazy and dishonest."

 

[Gardener]

Ah, so make a lie up and claim you can't access it.

Just to prove you wrong about the forum search, here's a quick search for one of my first posts on the subject where Jack Straw had mentioned the problem..

Post in thread '"culture of silence"'

Jan 8, 2011

Asian sex gangs: 'Culture of silence' allows grooming of white girls for fear of being racist | Mail Online

Not quite a culture of silence, Ann Cryer MP raised this many years ago. Jack Straw has been on TV (as Mancs Skipper posted a link very early on in the thread) to explain this is a very specific - meaning one national group of muslims (Pakistani) only.

He explained that in his constituency, the muslims of Indian origin did well at school, integrated and worked hard to get on however the young men of Pakistani origin did less well at school and that a minority then...

• Infinite Chaos

• 

Look in the mirror before you claim anyone else is "sleazy and dishonest."

Once again, I was using it as my sig line until recently.

 

[Juin]

Either way, I hope this doesn't just point fingers at muslim men but points out the horrible statistics of child abuse for kids, whatever colour and sets about real change for all our kids.

If there is an Islamic angle to it it must be boldly confronted. Islam, like any other religio political ideology has its good, bad and ugly canons. If canons of Islam that considers only women sealed in sacks worthy of respect, and open season on the rest, was contributory to grooming, then that has to be denonounced in the most severe terms

 

[OlNate]

You know you said it. I even had it as my sig line for quite some time, and you only demand it because you know it is too old to access.

How sleazy and dishonest can you get, anyway?

That's weird... I can access my first post here, from 2017.

But, sorry, you were saying something about sleazy and dishonest?

 

[Infinite Chaos]

Once again, I was using it as my sig line until recently.

Put it back on if you are not lying. I can use the search button easily but then I'm not posting dishonestly and lying about my lack of ability to use a simple search function.

 

[Infinite Chaos]

If there is an Islamic angle

Do you mean Islamic as in religious?

If canons of Islam that considers only women sealed in sacks worthy of respect, and open season on the rest, was contributory to grooming, then that has to be denonounced in the most severe terms

One of the things that got me moronically accused of defending these gangs was my explaining to completely different posters why I felt this was happening. Some of these mainly Pakistani gangs (not all) actually had non muslims and even white people. I posted links at the time.
Here's one from the fully functioning search button - the Oxford gang included Afghans and others.

Post in thread 'New Sex gang scandal in he UK Again and ...yes its the Muslims again'

Dec 6, 2014

You are joking..our news is not allowed to say ''Muslim or Pakistani'' offenders..they are just called ''the men!''

Your news, tv news that is, is not allowed to call them Muslim or Pakistani because it is bias and that is not allowed according the rules of tv news media that the industry agreed to within Ofcom.

Not entirely true... I don't think many if any of the muslim rape gangs have been 100% Pakistani, there have been Afghan and Bangladeshis within most of the gangs.

Here's the Rochedale gang - two of those deported after their period in prison will go to Pakistan...

• Infinite Chaos

They are paedophiles first and foremost. Anyhow if you mean are the gangs islamic rape gangs? The original threads here used to talk about a "rape jihad" and I never really felt the victims were of a range to call it a "jihad". The victims tended to come from care homes or troubled backgrounds and were all vulnerable. A true Jihad to me, would be an all round assault against all women and if it was against white women only, then the gangs wouldn't have targeted their own, some were Sikh girls or even West Indian and Hindu girls.

 

[Gardener]

Put it back on if you are not lying. I can use the search button easily but then I'm not posting dishonestly and lying about my lack of ability to use a simple search function.

Thanks for the encouragement. I finally found it and have done as you suggest.


It stands as a very salient example of the sort of scurrilous accusations that are leveled against any who point out the violently racist and misogynistic nature of the systematic rape of the children native to the host country of these Pakistani men. No wonder people remain silent when their supporters try to shame them into silence.

 

[Infinite Chaos]

Thanks for the encouragement. I finally found it and have done as you suggest.

That's it? I turned signatures back on just for that?
After all the build-up, you post my comment about your own racism as if you have skewered me?

Here's the full comment - pointing out all those years ago that your concern had nothing to do with the kids themselves, that it was all about broadbrushing muslims in the most racist way possible.

Post in thread 'Rotherham Council Leadership Resigns following Reoprt[W:37***183***]'

Jun 26, 2015

Re: Rotherham Council Leadership Resigns following Reoprt

There is a word often used to refer to those who fabricate a completely false narrative quite intentionally, but considering the obviousness of the fantasy you are attempting to foist upon us, I doubt whether it is necessary to use it here.

Whenever I am perplexed by the bizarre lengths some racist white Americans will go towards denying the racial motivations in whites victimizing blacks -- so much so that they will spin any sort of wild yarn they can think of even if it is based in pure fantasy -- well, let's just say...

• Infinite Chaos

It stands as a very salient example of the sort of scurrilous accusations that are leveled against any who point out the violently racist and misogynistic nature of the systematic rape of the children native to the host country of these Pakistani men. No wonder people remain silent when their supporters try to shame them into silence.

No, you're lying again. When this all first started, you were on the "rape jihad bandwagon" and trying to broadbrush all muslims as child rapists.
As your lies and hate got pointed out by myself and others, you have slowly changed tune to accepting that other kids from different ethnicities and religions as well as muslims own have been targets.

Actually no, you've never posted that these evil men have abused their own.

I will say again, you never cared about any of the kids, whatever colour. You attacked anyone who tried to explain that these evil paedophiles were abusing kids because they are paedophiles. You wanted a religious angle so you could tarnish all muslims.

Right, I'll turn signatures off again, you've wasted my time yet again.

 

[Gardener]

That's it? I turned signatures back on just for that?
After all the build-up, you post my comment about your own racism as if you have skewered me?

Here's the full comment - pointing out all those years ago that your concern had nothing to do with the kids themselves, that it was all about broadbrushing muslims in the most racist way possible.

Post in thread 'Rotherham Council Leadership Resigns following Reoprt[W:37***183***]'

Jun 26, 2015

Re: Rotherham Council Leadership Resigns following Reoprt

There is a word often used to refer to those who fabricate a completely false narrative quite intentionally, but considering the obviousness of the fantasy you are attempting to foist upon us, I doubt whether it is necessary to use it here.

Whenever I am perplexed by the bizarre lengths some racist white Americans will go towards denying the racial motivations in whites victimizing blacks -- so much so that they will spin any sort of wild yarn they can think of even if it is based in pure fantasy -- well, let's just say...

• Infinite Chaos

No, you're lying again. When this all first started, you were on the "rape jihad bandwagon" and trying to broadbrush all muslims as child rapists.
As your lies and hate got pointed out by myself and others, you have slowly changed tune to accepting that other kids from different ethnicities and religions as well as muslims own have been targets.

Actually no, you've never posted that these evil men have abused their own.

I will say again, you never cared about any of the kids, whatever colour. You attacked anyone who tried to explain that these evil paedophiles were abusing kids because they are paedophiles. You wanted a religious angle so you could tarnish all muslims.

Right, I'll turn signatures off again, you've wasted my time yet again.

Yes, you are a black man mocking white children for being the victims of violent gang rape.

 

[reinaert]

Yes, you are a black man mocking white children for being the victims of violent gang rape.

So close to not being able to contain it.

 

[OlNate]

That's it? I turned signatures back on just for that?
After all the build-up, you post my comment about your own racism as if you have skewered me?

Here's the full comment - pointing out all those years ago that your concern had nothing to do with the kids themselves, that it was all about broadbrushing muslims in the most racist way possible.

Post in thread 'Rotherham Council Leadership Resigns following Reoprt[W:37***183***]'

Jun 26, 2015

Re: Rotherham Council Leadership Resigns following Reoprt

There is a word often used to refer to those who fabricate a completely false narrative quite intentionally, but considering the obviousness of the fantasy you are attempting to foist upon us, I doubt whether it is necessary to use it here.

Whenever I am perplexed by the bizarre lengths some racist white Americans will go towards denying the racial motivations in whites victimizing blacks -- so much so that they will spin any sort of wild yarn they can think of even if it is based in pure fantasy -- well, let's just say...

• Infinite Chaos

No, you're lying again. When this all first started, you were on the "rape jihad bandwagon" and trying to broadbrush all muslims as child rapists.
As your lies and hate got pointed out by myself and others, you have slowly changed tune to accepting that other kids from different ethnicities and religions as well as muslims own have been targets.

Actually no, you've never posted that these evil men have abused their own.

I will say again, you never cared about any of the kids, whatever colour. You attacked anyone who tried to explain that these evil paedophiles were abusing kids because they are paedophiles. You wanted a religious angle so you could tarnish all muslims.

Right, I'll turn signatures off again, you've wasted my time yet again.

I'm not telling you what to do, just passing along information in an effort to be a blessing.... hehe The ignore feature is also a great tool to avoid wasting time.

Honestly, the way this guy has represented himself in this thread has done all your work for you, there's literally nothing left to do but allow deplorables to be deplorable.

 

[Gardener]

So close to not being able to contain it.

Yes, unlike you, I oppose the vicious gang rape of children by those expressing contempt for them due to their ethnicity.

 

[Gardener]

I'm not telling you what to do, just passing along information in an effort to be a blessing.... hehe The ignore feature is also a great tool to avoid wasting time.

Honestly, the way this guy has represented himself in this thread has done all your work for you, there's literally nothing left to do but allow deplorables to be deplorable.

His work is the same as your work -- to heap abuse upon any who point to the nature of these gang rapes. You do so because you derive a smug sense of superiority from sacrificing British children to the altar of Political correctness, and the more children who are sacrificed, the better you feel about yourself for being a right, proper "non" racist. As such, it is vital to you to maximize the victim count, so you attempt to silence any who actually seek to address the problem.

 

[OlNate]

His work is the same as your work -- to heap abuse upon any who point to the nature of these gang rapes. You do so because you derive a smug sense of superiority from sacrificing British children to the altar of Political correctness, and the more children who are sacrificed, the better you feel about yourself for being a right, proper "non" racist. As such, it is vital to you to maximize the victim count, so you attempt to silence any who actually seek to address the problem.

Cool story, bro. Belongs in the fiction aisle, but very cool story, you did just great.