England and Wales to hold inquiry into grooming gangs

[Gardener]

Come back when you actually have a real concern about the victims of these evil gangs. 10 years ago, you spent the time pontificating at me rather than the gangs and nothing has changed.

Yes, you attack those who actually oppose the gangs.

That is why they operate with impunity.

 

[reinaert]

Yes, you attack those who actually oppose the gangs.

That is why they operate with impunity.

Because of forum opinions. You go girl.

 

[Gardener]

With an expression of fact, followed by a leftist desperate to defend the predators?

I agree....THAT is how it happens.

They enable quite intentionally.

 

[Gardener]

Because of forum opinions. You go girl.

No, because of the cumulative intimidating effect of millions of you calling people racists.

I am not a girl.

 

[reinaert]

No, because of the cumulative intimidating effect of millions of you calling people racists.

I am not a girl.

Look at this faith in magicks.

 

[Infinite Chaos]

So the UK allows asylum from a country that is at peace...makes no sense. And if they have no status to stay, then deport them.. Pakistan is a safe country.

Some were Afghans but the liklihood is illegal immigrants. Others are having their applications processed.

More broadly..sounds like a cop-out.

Not really, this focuses on child exploitation. I guess it's also a way for Starmer to U-turn without saying he's u-turned but people were ignoring the Jay inquiry to make a political point about this new inquiry.
Ideally, actions and arrests should have happened after Jay but the Conservatives didn't do anything. Badenoch is saying she has apologised as the minister in charge at the time but nobody cares because she's not Prime Minister.

Which should already covered by the previous report.

See above. Nothing happened after Jay. The Conservatives shelved it.

But why not look into Christian Priests? Or the upper classes? Or religious cults like Jehovas Witnesses?

Seems to me that reports like the new one is just there to put more fuel on the fire of racism.

No idea, I'm not a politician.

What "right wing government?"

The 5 year inquiry was quietly shelved by the Conservatives.

 

[Infinite Chaos]

Yes, you attack those who actually oppose the gangs.

Of all the moronic statements you have made over the years about this, that one takes the biscuit.
Where have I attacked people who oppose the gangs?
And don't claim you are attacked - you don't give a shit about the victims, you never have.

That is why they operate with impunity.

"They", "the left" and all this bollocks speak you engage in is simply you playing victim on these threads. It's all about you and never about the victims.

No, because of the cumulative intimidating effect of millions of you calling people racists.

Bollocks.

 

[PeteEU]

Some were Afghans but the liklihood is illegal immigrants. Others are having their applications processed.

Come on.. Rochdale was predominantly BRITISH of Pakistani decent. And this is my point, these inquires are racist as **** and are used to fuel the race war fires...and that is a problem.

Not really, this focuses on child exploitation. I guess it's also a way for Starmer to U-turn without saying he's u-turned but people were ignoring the Jay inquiry to make a political point about this new inquiry.

Child exploration..another word for either child labour or pedophilea.. so which is it?

Ideally, actions and arrests should have happened after Jay but the Conservatives didn't do anything. Badenoch is saying she has apologised as the minister in charge at the time but nobody cares because she's not Prime Minister.

Here we can agree.. the Tories did nothing.

But the grooming gangs have been around since forever, so it is not specific to a political ideology or ethnicity. My guess to why the Tories did nothing....some of the top pedos are either donors or members. That's why they try to focus on the brown ones...

 

[PeteEU]

And before anyone starts " oh you hate the UK" bs.. we have the same problem in Denmark. Not the grooming gangs per say(my guess is they exist, but no real proof), but the focus on brown pedos over the huge majority white ones.

Some refugee or brown person touches a little girl..front page news for days. A group of white families busted for grooming their children in rural Denmark...page 7 in the newspaper no one reads.

 

[Gardener]

Of all the moronic statements you have made over the years about this, that one takes the biscuit.
Where have I attacked people who oppose the gangs?
And don't claim you are attacked - you don't give a shit about the victims, you never have.



"They", "the left" and all this bollocks speak you engage in is simply you playing victim on these threads. It's all about you and never about the victims.



Bollocks.

Of all the moronic statements you have made over the years about this, that one takes the biscuit.
Where have I attacked people who oppose the gangs?
And don't claim you are attacked - you don't give a shit about the victims, you never have.



"They", "the left" and all this bollocks speak you engage in is simply you playing victim on these threads. It's all about you and never about the victims.



Bollocks.

In Rotherham, ALONE, 1400 girls were groomed and gang raped systematically. This was in a metro population of maybe 300-400 hundred thousand, so represents a truly staggering number. The Rapists were nearly all Pakistani and the girls almost exclusively British

Those are the FACTS and you ignore the facts, especially in regards to what they reveal.

All you worry about is your leftist agenda.

 

[Infinite Chaos]

Rochdale was predominantly BRITISH of Pakistani decent.

From the Mirpur region of Pakistan if I remember correctly but ethnicity wasn't kept in Rochdale, even after the gangs were busted.

And this is my point, these inquires are racist as **** and are used to fuel the race war fires...and that is a problem.

I know what you mean but the over-representation of Pakistani Mirpuri men is a specific problem. It also tainted all South Asian muslim men with the same suspicion as you can see from 2 posters in this thread that have zero interest in the victims.

Child exploration..another word for either child labour or pedophilea.. so which is it?

"Abuse" covers sexual as well as neglect, Baroness Casey's definition of exploitation and what she focused on is in the link "Sweden" provided.

But the grooming gangs have been around since forever, so it is not specific to a political ideology or ethnicity. My guess to why the Tories did nothing....some of the top pedos are either donors or members. That's why they try to focus on the brown ones...

Jeffery Epstein's friends are still in high and powerful places but at the end of the day - a paedophile is a paedophile is a paedophile. Better to do something abut some paedophiles than not.

but the focus on brown pedos over the huge majority white ones.

Gangs versus individuals. My guess is that it's both harder to capture individual family relatives sneaking into a female's room than to capture gangs operating because officials are scared to point them out.

One thing a retired policeman called in to a BBC talkshow about this yesterday was that police just didn't have the experience and knowledge of how to deal with this. A bit like the failings that left the Yorkshire Ripper to carry on for an extra 2-3 years.

 

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Well it’s about time many local councils requested national help but were denied. I don’t see Labour getting out of this one unharmed.

 

[Infinite Chaos]

the girls almost exclusively British

Wow, only taken you 10 years to acknowledge that there were others counted among the victims.

You are making progress.

The Rapists were nearly all Pakistani and the girls almost exclusively British

Those are the FACTS

That's a moronic lie. You'd have to be truly stupid to believe that if you read my posts on this subject.

 

[Gardener]

Wow, only taken you 10 years to acknowledge that there were others counted among the victims.

You are making progress.



That's a moronic lie. You'd have to be truly stupid to believe that if you read my posts on this subject.

What I said is completely truthful. You are being deceitful, so call it a lie in order propagandize.

 

[PeteEU]

From the Mirpur region of Pakistan if I remember correctly but ethnicity wasn't kept in Rochdale, even after the gangs were busted.

Which is irrelevant where they were from.

I know what you mean but the over-representation of Pakistani Mirpuri men is a specific problem.

Why? As you say below.. pedos are pedos are pedos.. race, religion, ethnicity are irrelevant. Now pointing one of these out fuels neo nazi racism shit, that will hurt everyone brown or black.

It also tainted all South Asian muslim men with the same suspicion as you can see from 2 posters in this thread that have zero interest in the victims.

And you engaging in pointing out they are "south Asian Muslim" only fuels their racist bullshit. They are Brits... period.

"Abuse" covers sexual as well as neglect, Baroness Casey's definition of exploitation and what she focused on is in the link "Sweden" provided.

Neglect? Boy that is gonna be a big report then.. better define neglect first, Sending 10 year olds to bed at 6 pm could be considered as neglect.

Jeffery Epstein's friends are still in high and powerful places but at the end of the day - a paedophile is a paedophile is a paedophile. Better to do something abut some paedophiles than not.

I agree, but for example focusing on Andrew is nothing but a distraction. He frankly did nothing illegal.. morally wrong maybe, but nothing illegal unless he knew that she was trafficked. Regardless focusing on Andrew or Clinton, means other not so well names are not mentioned.

Gangs versus individuals. My guess is that it's both harder to capture individual family relatives sneaking into a female's room than to capture gangs operating because officials are scared to point them out.

Sorry but there is no difference. Gangs has become the goto word for "brown people" but doing it inside the "family" is also a gang.... and it often does not stay there, since the "family" films and sell the smut on the dark web. That is a gang as well.. just it is white people. What about Jehovas Witness? or other "christian" cults that have been under suspicion for decades.. that a gang, or a family? Or is a pedo, a pedo, and just a pedo?

One thing a retired policeman called in to a BBC talkshow about this yesterday was that police just didn't have the experience and knowledge of how to deal with this. A bit like the failings that left the Yorkshire Ripper to carry on for an extra 2-3 years.

That I kinda agree with. The local police in general dont have the experience to go after organised crime like this.. which is why most countries have specific police units that deal with it. Problem is they are often underfunded, and run at the top by old farts that dont understand anything. From cybercrime, pedos, and onwards, the police are often playing catchup. And as soon as a "rich" guy/girls is involved.. the investigation is delayed or dropped. Happens all the time.

 

[Infinite Chaos]

What I said is completely truthful. You are being deceitful, so call it a lie in order propagandize.

I pointed out years ago that Sikhs, Africans and even muslim children had been victims to these gangs and you weren't interested. That is not a lie because the search function still works. I posted you links about Sikhs who were angry about being ignored while everyone focused on white victims and you could care less.
Only white victims count for your interest so take your "lie" accusation and shove it where the sun doesn't shine.

 

[Infinite Chaos]

Which is irrelevant where they were from.

Not if you are an innocent muslim trying to keep your head down and work, and integrate. That's a tenet of the report too.

Now pointing one of these out fuels neo nazi racism shit, that will hurt everyone brown or black.

Same way that a paedo is a paedo, a nazi is a nazi. It doesn't matter that some victims were not white or that there are white grooming gangs too - morons only care about what morons care about.

Neglect? Boy that is gonna be a big report then.. better define neglect first, Sending 10 year olds to bed at 6 pm could be considered as neglect.

You do like a rabbit hole. Read the report.

Gangs has become the goto word for "brown people" but doing it inside the "family" is also a gang

Not that I'm aware of.

Or is a pedo, a pedo, and just a pedo?

Course it is. Whether you are abused by a gang for 5 years or a family member for 5 years - you have still been abused. That doesn't get away from the fact that you have to deal with the different types of perpetrator does it?

 

[Gardener]

I pointed out years ago that Sikhs, Africans and even muslim children had been victims to these gangs and you weren't interested. That is not a lie because the search function still works. I posted you links about Sikhs who were angry about being ignored while everyone focused on white victims and you could care less.
Only white victims count for your interest so take your "lie" accusation and shove it where the sun doesn't shine.

You will have to bend over first. I will see what I can find, though.

The overwhelming majority of the victims were white. You tried using the small number of outliers to disprove the statement and to further a deceitful agenda.

 

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The hubris is unbelievable

 

[Infinite Chaos]

You will have to bend over first. I will see what I can find, though.

I'm not interested in homosexual fantasy, find someone else to play that game.

The overwhelming majority of the victims were white.

I always said this, from post one on the subject to my recent posts. I worked with kids from care many years ago and the job was about all kids, no matter what colour. It wasn't my view that I should focus exclusively on the white ones for some racist, anti-muslim agenda. Anyhow, congrats on finally recognising that some of the kids weren't white. You've come a small way to a less racist position about this.

You tried using the small number of outliers to disprove the statement and to further a deceitful agenda.

That's you lying again. You shit yourself about my posting a story that Sikhs in Leicester had been up in arms about their girls being targeted by these gangs and have been trying to make a claim that I've been defending gang rapists ever since.
Someone has to have a really stupid view of things to make that kind of connection and I've hoped that wasn't your intent. I've yet to be proved wrong.

 

[Aristaeus]

These Muslim men target British children in a display of racial and cultural superiority. They call the children "easy meat" to show their contempt.

Those who defend them in any way are complicit in their actions.

They also abused Muslim girls.

 

[Aristaeus]

This is all about grooming GANGS, and not individuals acting on their own sick impulses. Heinous as they are, rapes that are not the product of coordinated actions do not qualify as grooming GANGS

The majority of actual grooming GANGS are Pakistani and the overwhelming majority of their victims are people indigenous to Britain.

Well duh, because the overwhelming majority of people in Britain are people indigenous to Britain.

 

[Infinite Chaos]

They also abused Muslim girls.

I remember posting a study at the time about how abusers started - very often on their own.

That didn't go down well with the racists on this subject then and it won't go down with our resident racists on the forum so I guess you will be accused of "enabling the rapists" somehow.

 

[Rumpel]

was there no such grooming in Scotland?

 

[PeteEU]

Not if you are an innocent muslim trying to keep your head down and work, and integrate. That's a tenet of the report too.

Again..they singling out specific ethnicity and religions and that fuels the anti immigrant racist neo nazi shit that we need to get rid off. The report should be about pedophilea in the UK, where it happens and how to stop it. This can be done without singling out ethnic minorities.