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Email From VA

aociswundumho said:
Doesn't matter. It demonstrates that the left desperately wants the federal government to control information, and that means even when republicans are in charge. This VA letter is an example of that.
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Huh? So the democrats are still secretly still in charge even though the republicans control the house, the Senate, and the oval office.

WOW!
 
When I first came across this thread, I wondered how long it would be before someone would argue.........................
Yeah................ BUT.....................whatabout................them Democrats.

Someone would come along and encourage us to ...................

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And it didn't take long for my prediction to come true..................

aociswundumho said:
Yet it's the left that wants the federal government to be the final arbiter of truth. Remember Biden's Disinformation Governance Board?
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aociswundumho said:
Yes, you endorse only democrat propaganda. How principled.
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aociswundumho said:
Doesn't matter. It demonstrates that the left desperately wants the federal government to control information, and that means even when republicans are in charge. This VA letter is an example of that.
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I mean, you can't make this stuff up folks, they are as predictable as the sun rising in the East. You know EXACTLY, even before they type the words, what they are going to use as a deflection.
 
Redress said:
Something along the lines of "Due to the government shutdown, our services will be impacted thusly...", and then list how they are impacted. The VA should never, ever be partisan.
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Here is the message sent out by Obama in 2013 during that Federal shutdown. Certainly more civil and professional than anything we see come out of the Trump white house. But the Obama letter is partisan nonetheless. (Politicians are never going to miss an opportunity to take a jab.)

Good article from NPR on the subject.

Ahead of a government shutdown that lasted more than two weeks in 2013, then-President Barack Obama penned a letter to federal employees that thanked them for their service and chided a Congress that "has failed to meet its responsibility" to approve a spending plan, without mentioning Republicans.

"This shutdown was completely preventable," he wrote. "It should not have happened. And the House of Representatives can end it as soon as it follows the Senate's lead, and funds your work in the United States Government without trying to attach highly controversial and partisan measures in the process."


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bongsaway said:
Like Dragnet, just the facts ma'am.
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Yep, people just want the information that will change things for them, they don't need anything else whoever's in charge.

All info like this in the UK is sent out by civil servants who aren't allowed to put partisan bullcrap into the letters they send.
 
pragmatic said:
Here is the message sent out by Obama in 2013 during that Federal shutdown. Certainly more civil and professional than anything we see come out of the Trump white house. But the Obama letter is partisan nonetheless. (Politicians are never going to miss an opportunity to take a jab.)

Good article from NPR on the subject.

Ahead of a government shutdown that lasted more than two weeks in 2013, then-President Barack Obama penned a letter to federal employees that thanked them for their service and chided a Congress that "has failed to meet its responsibility" to approve a spending plan, without mentioning Republicans.

"This shutdown was completely preventable," he wrote. "It should not have happened. And the House of Representatives can end it as soon as it follows the Senate's lead, and funds your work in the United States Government without trying to attach highly controversial and partisan measures in the process."


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I don't see the words MAGA or Radical Right anywhere.
 
Redress said:
So I got this email from the VA today explaining how the shutdown would affect the VA:



It goes on to explain what will and won't be affected, which is basically anything health related will continue to function and, some stuff related to GI Bill and burial services will not.

Now, the above quoted, am I the only one that finds that inappropriate?
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The VA is full of sickos masturbating on their computers watching porn.

It needs to be gutted because most veterans I know would not consider the va their #1 preference of choice.
 
Redress said:
Hi! This thread is about the email sent out by the VA. Do you have an opinion on the topic, or just diversions from the topic?
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"Those who will not learn from history are condemned to repeat it". How can you learn from history if you have amnesia?
 
Luce said:
Link?



How many veterans do you know?
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  • Bureaucracy Over Veteran: The VA's primary function has devolved from serving veterans to merely serving and perpetuating its own bureaucracy. The veteran's well-being is secondary to institutional survival.
  • The Firing Problem: Despite the passage of the Accountability Act (allowing for the firing of incompetent VA employees), the system—driven by government unions and political appointees—actively resists firing. The legal mechanism exists, but the bureaucratic will is absent.
  • "Veterans Industrial Complex": A coalition of the VA's brass, outside lobbying groups (like the VFW and Legion headquarters), and politicians creates a "swampy feedback loop". This complex is invested in securing an ever-larger VA budget, regardless of service quality, thus prioritizing money flow over efficiency.
  • Access vs. Quality: The quality of VA healthcare is "pretty good once you get in" and establish a relationship, but the fundamental challenge is the difficulty and delay in obtaining appointments.
  • Failure to Specialize: The VA should logically focus on specialized care for combat veterans—like traumatic brain injuries and "Operator Syndrome"—which the outside world cannot easily address. Instead, it wastes resources competing with private providers on general ailments like diabetes and cancer.
  • The Solution Resisted (Choice Act): The bureaucracy actively fights the idea that federal healthcare dollars should "follow the veteran" to local community providers, as this would reduce the VA's control, budget, and the need for its current vast network of facilities.
 
Redress said:
So I got this email from the VA today explaining how the shutdown would affect the VA:



It goes on to explain what will and won't be affected, which is basically anything health related will continue to function and, some stuff related to GI Bill and burial services will not.

Now, the above quoted, am I the only one that finds that inappropriate?
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It is a clear violation of the Hatch Act to start.
 
Bucky said:
  • Bureaucracy Over Veteran: The VA's primary function has devolved from serving veterans to merely serving and perpetuating its own bureaucracy. The veteran's well-being is secondary to institutional survival.
  • The Firing Problem: Despite the passage of the Accountability Act (allowing for the firing of incompetent VA employees), the system—driven by government unions and political appointees—actively resists firing. The legal mechanism exists, but the bureaucratic will is absent.
  • "Veterans Industrial Complex": A coalition of the VA's brass, outside lobbying groups (like the VFW and Legion headquarters), and politicians creates a "swampy feedback loop". This complex is invested in securing an ever-larger VA budget, regardless of service quality, thus prioritizing money flow over efficiency.
  • Access vs. Quality: The quality of VA healthcare is "pretty good once you get in" and establish a relationship, but the fundamental challenge is the difficulty and delay in obtaining appointments.
  • Failure to Specialize: The VA should logically focus on specialized care for combat veterans—like traumatic brain injuries and "Operator Syndrome"—which the outside world cannot easily address. Instead, it wastes resources competing with private providers on general ailments like diabetes and cancer.
  • The Solution Resisted (Choice Act): The bureaucracy actively fights the idea that federal healthcare dollars should "follow the veteran" to local community providers, as this would reduce the VA's control, budget, and the need for its current vast network of facilities.
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Making shit up is a piss poor way to make a point. You clearly have zero clue about veterans, or the VA.

Speaking of the VA, do you have any comment on the email that is the actual topic of this thread? Or will you just continue to try and divert from the topic with idiotic, ignorant rants?
 
aociswundumho said:
Doesn't matter. It demonstrates that the left desperately wants the federal government to control information, and that means even when republicans are in charge. This VA letter is an example of that.
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Ok, so if the Democrats are doing it, it is wrong, correct?

Then, by your logic, you should also be attacking MAGA/right wing/Republicans for doing it as well.

Otherwise, you are a hypocrite.
 
Bucky said:
  • Bureaucracy Over Veteran: The VA's primary function has devolved from serving veterans to merely serving and perpetuating its own bureaucracy. The veteran's well-being is secondary to institutional survival.
  • The Firing Problem: Despite the passage of the Accountability Act (allowing for the firing of incompetent VA employees), the system—driven by government unions and political appointees—actively resists firing. The legal mechanism exists, but the bureaucratic will is absent.
  • "Veterans Industrial Complex": A coalition of the VA's brass, outside lobbying groups (like the VFW and Legion headquarters), and politicians creates a "swampy feedback loop". This complex is invested in securing an ever-larger VA budget, regardless of service quality, thus prioritizing money flow over efficiency.
  • Access vs. Quality: The quality of VA healthcare is "pretty good once you get in" and establish a relationship, but the fundamental challenge is the difficulty and delay in obtaining appointments.
  • Failure to Specialize: The VA should logically focus on specialized care for combat veterans—like traumatic brain injuries and "Operator Syndrome"—which the outside world cannot easily address. Instead, it wastes resources competing with private providers on general ailments like diabetes and cancer.
  • The Solution Resisted (Choice Act): The bureaucracy actively fights the idea that federal healthcare dollars should "follow the veteran" to local community providers, as this would reduce the VA's control, budget, and the need for its current vast network of facilities.
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So you don't know any veterans.
 
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