Ellen's gets devasted by a remix of her Bush'splanation

[AGENT J]

Re: Ellen gets devasted by a remix of her Bush'splanation

"Factually devastated"? Its an emotional state, there is nothing factual about it, its subjective. "Factually devastated", what a bunch of ****ery. lol

You dont have to explain that to me LOL seems others cant get it

 

[AGENT J]

Re: Ellen gets devasted by a remix of her Bush'splanation

Ahhh, that's why people are confused. We are using different definitions.

Devastation also refers to the act of wreaking damage. This video, and this incident, has considerably damaged her reputation and credibility. She is also now deeply associated with the wealthy-white-washing of Bush's atrocities.

You still have yet to show how she is factually devastated like you claimed, please do so now.

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[AProudLefty]

Re: Ellen gets devasted by a remix of her Bush'splanation

You dont have to explain that to me LOL seems others cant get it

How did this wreck Ellen's reputation? I guess I'm missing something.

 

[AGENT J]

Re: Ellen gets devasted by a remix of her Bush'splanation

How did this wreck Ellen's reputation? I guess I'm missing something.

I have no idea. the claim was factually devisitate and thats insane

but just going off of logic i dont see considerably damaged her reputation and credibility either

did she get fired? lose significant ratings and sponsors? removed from other projects? her audience cheered her and i saw tons of support for her on line, **** tons more then illogical negativity

who knows :shrug: to each thier own i guess

 

[Harshaw]

Re: Ellen gets devasted by a remix of her Bush'splanation

This video, and this incident, has considerably damaged her reputation and credibility. She is also now deeply associated with the wealthy-white-washing of Bush's atrocities.

There is no indication that this true other than among a handful of ultra-hyper-partisan ninnies.

 

[Amelia]

Would you criticize Ellen if she befriended Trump? Just curious.

I might see her differently if she did that.

But I doubt I would specifically criticize her -- I don't think of her that often.



On the other hand, I suppose if she found something to respect about that putrid orange subhuman, then I would probably listen to what she had to say and maybe possibly it might affect my way of thinking of him. Hopefully it will never come up.

 

[Tigerace117]

Cheney and Rumsfeld cooked the intelligence to get their support, lets not forget. But yes, many Dems did support the Iraq War. Thankfully, Dem is not synonymous with liberal or progressive.

Saddam was a brutal thug responsible for some of the worst atrocities the region had seen. The war wasn’t handled well but overthrowing him was a good thing.

 

[Jack Fabulous]

Let's be honest about this. Trump is making the mess messier. Let Turkey kill the people guarding the ISIS prisoners? Then say it's all okay because the guards didn't help us in WWII and because the prisoners will go cause problems in a Europe which deserves problems?

That's just one example of Trump's relentless attack on national and global security. Taking the Pentagon by surprise, giving the green light to a dictator to kill our allies, sending ISIS members back into circulation with more material than ever to use for propaganda in recruiting people to fight against the heinous U.S., and we're without promises that we can make to build a coalition to fight them again, because our legacy under Trump is that we'll actively facilitate a brutal end for people stupid enough to risk their lives to try to help us.

I think you've nailed all of the let wing talking points. Congratulations.

Do you know anything about pending sanctions?

 

[Dans La Lune]

Excellent take on this issue. Loathing Bush because he's a war-criminal is not a political disagreement.

 

[Amelia]

I think you've nailed all of the let wing talking points. Congratulations.

Do you know anything about pending sanctions?

I'm glad to be on the side where the "talking points" match the facts. I'm embarrassed for people trying to spin Trump's love notes to dictators into some sort of policy achievement.

 

[Jack Fabulous]

I'm glad to be on the side where the "talking points" match the facts. I'm embarrassed for people trying to spin Trump's love notes to dictators into some sort of policy achievement.

So... this means you think trying to get us out of the middle east is a BAD idea?

 

[AGENT J]

Re: Ellen gets devasted by a remix of her Bush'splanation

Will do. Also, here's the original video where Ellen is Factually Devastated™, which I just found.

We are still waiting for you to prove this and post one fact that makes it true. Thanks!

 

[Amelia]

So... this means you think trying to get us out of the middle east is a BAD idea?

No.

I just want it to be done by someone who doesn't make things worse on the way out.



Trumpsters keep giving Trump credit for "trying" when his efforts are ignorant at best, and often much worse than merely ignorant because he's often actually treacherous.

Rule #1: Don't make things worse. Trump repeatedly breaks Rule #1.

 

[rocket88]

Have you seen any objection at all to Bush hanging with Ellen?

The GOP disowned Bush and tossed him aside when Trump said he was bad.

 

[rocket88]

It's hilarious how you guys think.....oh. Wait. You don't.

BTW, how does the right treat their own people who dare to be friends with a Democrat?

I dunno, how do you think.....opps, there I go again.

I'd address this, but i try to stay away from morons.

 

[Jack Fabulous]

No.

I just want it to be done by someone who doesn't make things worse on the way out.

You say this as if there is some sort of universally agreed upon pathway for us to get out of this entanglement that Trump is blatantly ignoring.

Getting involved with this in the first place came with consequences. Getting out of it isn't any different. Turkey now has crippling sanctions they are facing should they continue to do what they've been doing. If they continue to indiscriminately bomb the Kurds without those sanctions being implemented, THEN you can call this a failure. If the sanctions are implemented and it doesn't stop them, THEN you can call this a failure. Right now, though, you're just regurgitating talking points.

 

[Harshaw]

The GOP disowned Bush and tossed him aside when Trump said he was bad.

Whatever you need to tell yourself.

 

[Amelia]

You say this as if there is some sort of universally agreed upon pathway for us to get out of this entanglement that Trump is blatantly ignoring.

Getting involved with this in the first place came with consequences. Getting out of it isn't any different. Turkey now has crippling sanctions they are facing should they continue to do what they've been doing. If they continue to indiscriminately bomb the Kurds without those sanctions being implemented, THEN you can call this a failure. If the sanctions are implemented and it doesn't stop them, THEN you can call this a failure. Right now, though, you're just regurgitating talking points.

Trump has already said he's fine with Turkey attacking the Kurds.

He's not going to sanction the dictator who has twice during phone calls induced him to spontaneously change U.S. policy in a way which favored the dictator and took the Pentagon by surprise.

Trump's red lines mean less than Obama's did.

 

[Amelia]

Trump has already said he's fine with Turkey attacking the Kurds.

He's not going to sanction the dictator who has twice during phone calls induced him to spontaneously change U.S. policy in a way which favored the dictator and took the Pentagon by surprise.

Trump's red lines mean less than Obama's did.

Edit: he won't meaningfully sanction them. He might be pushed muttering and grumbling into making token sanctions, but he will resist as long as he can and look for any excuse to minimize the sanctions or offer early relief.

 

[braindrain]

That's right I would. I'd pour a milkshake on his head too.

I don't believe you. Not even a little bit.

 

[uptower]

Good...the real issues, finally

 

[roguenuke]

This thread shows the big difference between the libs and conservatives. The libs have all their panties in a wad because a supposed lib would associate with someone who has a different view that her. While no Conservative gives a rat's behind that Bush associates with a lesbian. One group has tolerance, the other has none.

Except that the right does do the same thing. The right has shunned several politicians, made scathing comments about others for simply not being "with" their ideologies. Some refuse service to people for being who they are.

Neither side is right to do this, even if their methods aren't the same. And I'm willing to bet you are wrong about "no conservative gives a rat's behind that Bush associates with a lesbian". In fact, I'd say there are probably plenty of conservatives that do care not only that he is associating with a lesbian but also that he is associating with a lefty.

 

[rocket88]

Good...the real issues, finally

Except that the right does do the same thing. The right has shunned several politicians, made scathing comments about others for simply not being "with" their ideologies. Some refuse service to people for being who they are.

Neither side is right to do this, even if their methods aren't the same. And I'm willing to bet you are wrong about "no conservative gives a rat's behind that Bush associates with a lesbian". In fact, I'd say there are probably plenty of conservatives that do care not only that he is associating with a lesbian but also that he is associating with a lefty.

Oh no, they love anybody who says nice things about Democrats. Ask John McCain.

 

[Dans La Lune]

Re: Ellen gets devasted by a remix of her Bush'splanation

We are still waiting for you to prove this and post one fact that makes it true. Thanks!

I already did. I'm sorry that you disagree with my assessment. Factually Devastated™.

 

[Dans La Lune]

Re: Ellen gets devasted by a remix of her Bush'splanation

The devastating video of Ellen doing apologetic gymnastics for Bush goes viral.

Ellen DeGeneres tries to take down video criticising her friendship with George W. Bush - Business Insider