Electrocution for DP cases violate the 8th Amendment?

[vegas giants]

I have always favored the idea of banishment. I know a few islands in the aleutians that would be perfect

 

[Emily L]

Dont be coy. Commit to a opinion. Lol

 

[EMNofSeattle]

I have always favored the idea of banishment. I know a few islands in the aleutians that would be perfect

You mean that we should dump them on the Eskimos?

 

[NWRatCon]

Electrocution for DP cases violate the 8th Amendment?

I think that the electrocution of DP members is a bit harsh for rule violations, myself... I honestly thought we were talking about Debate Politics when I saw the thread title. Not the Death Penalty...

 

[vegas giants]

You mean that we should dump them on the Eskimos?

No. There are abandoned aleutian islands. They even have buildings on them.


I lived on one for three years

 

[Gaius46]

No. There are abandoned aleutian islands. They even have buildings on them.


I lived on one for three years

Not to rathole this discussion but I’ve always been fascinated by remote, hard to reach, cold, desolate places. Antartica is very high on my list of places to visit.

 

[bearpoker]

I thought one of the reasons that the so called evangelicals loved them some Donny was because he was supposedly pro life and a sanctity of life president?

He has been anything but a pro life president.

He can't kill life fast enough or in large enough numbers to suit him!

The pro-life movement is only for the unborn. Once born, your a sinner. So you're fair game.

 

[vegas giants]

Not to rathole this discussion but I’ve always been fascinated by remote, hard to reach, cold, desolate places. Antartica is very high on my list of places to visit.

It was an option when I was in the navy. Never went though

 

[Moi621]

Right? WTF is so hard about this, my vet pulls it off every day.

@MaryP

Or just Michael Jackson them.

There is all sorts of anesthesia that can "do it".

 

[Rexedgar]

@MaryP

Or just Michael Jackson them.

There is all sorts of anesthesia that can "do it".

^^^^^

This has puzzled me for a long time. There have been death by lethal injections that have gone very wrong, but since I got to be a senior citizen, I have had numerous medical procedures where I have been rendered unconscious. Just turn out the lights, anything after that can’t be felt?

I am not advocating the DP.

 

[ASHES]

^^^^^

This has puzzled me for a long time. There have been death by lethal injections that have gone very wrong, but since I got to be a senior citizen, I have had numerous medical procedures where I have been rendered unconscious. Just turn out the lights, anything after that can’t be felt?

I am not advocating the DP.

That was my point with death by hypoxia. I think death by morphine overdose would also produce a similar result.

 

[Gaius46]

^^^^^

This has puzzled me for a long time. There have been death by lethal injections that have gone very wrong, but since I got to be a senior citizen, I have had numerous medical procedures where I have been rendered unconscious. Just turn out the lights, anything after that can’t be felt?

I am not advocating the DP.

Same. Only time I had a general was for a colonoscopy a few years back. Was joking with the anastesiologist and she says “count back from 10”

“How far has the furthest gotten?”
“5 or 6”
“I’m gonna beat that”

“10, 9, 8” and the next thing I know I’m waking up.

Literally like someone hit a light switch.

 

[Fledermaus]

Electrocution for DP cases violate the 8th Amendment?

Interpretation: The Eighth Amendment | Constitution Center

Interpretations of The Eighth Amendment by constitutional scholars

constitutioncenter.org

New DOJ rule could allow executions by electrocution, firing squad

A new Department of Justice (DOJ) rule could allow some federal death sentences to be carried out by states using other methods besides lethal injection, including by poison gas, electrocution…

thehill.com

I remember a sign outside the prison when Ted Bundy was to be executed....

"Do you like your justice regular or extra crispy?"

 

[Rexedgar]

Same. Only time I had a general was for a colonoscopy a few years back. Was joking with the anastesiologist and she says “count back from 10”

“How far has the furthest gotten?”
“5 or 6”
“I’m gonna beat that”

“10, 9, 8” and the next thing I know I’m waking up.

Literally like someone hit a light switch.

Not to derail...

I’ve seen way too many hospital ceiling tile roll by. I’ve tries to do the hold out on the count thing as well. One time they got me to the OR a little too soon. I got to look around and listen to the jibber jabber of the OR staff; how are the kids? What about that game last night and so on.

Colonoscopy is now a local, in my area. Can I pay a little more to go to sleep?

 

[Moi621]

^^^^^

This has puzzled me for a long time. There have been death by lethal injections that have gone very wrong, but since I got to be a senior citizen, I have had numerous medical procedures where I have been rendered unconscious. Just turn out the lights, anything after that can’t be felt?

I am not advocating the DP.

It is tough on persons who were using IV "drugs" for so long
they have no easily accessible veins.

 

[MaryP]

@MaryP

Or just Michael Jackson them.

There is all sorts of anesthesia that can "do it".

I don't know what "Michael Jackson them" means, but I think anesthesia is one of the things used in that ridiculously complicated lethal injection cocktail. If it is painless and fast without paralyzing someone while they are aware of the poison being pumped into their system and slowly killing them, then fine.

 

[Logician Man]

Same. Only time I had a general was for a colonoscopy a few years back. Was joking with the anastesiologist and she says “count back from 10”

“How far has the furthest gotten?”
“5 or 6”
“I’m gonna beat that”

“10, 9, 8” and the next thing I know I’m waking up.

Literally like someone hit a light switch.

Back in 1959, when I was 6 years old, I had my tonsils and adenoids taken out. In those days, they used ether, or chloroform, soaked into some sort of cloth. I remember being told to count backwards from 100. I made it through the first 100, which kinda shocked the docs, think they put another dose of ether/chloroform on, and made it another 25 to 50 before finally going out. Woke up in agony. Such was a tonsilectomy back in the day; at least for a 6 year old.

 

[Rexedgar]

Back in 1959, when I was 6 years old, I had my tonsils and adenoids taken out. In those days, they used ether, or chloroform, soaked into some sort of cloth. I remember being told to count backwards from 100. I made it through the first 100, which kinda shocked the docs, think they put another dose of ether/chloroform on, and made it another 25 to 50 before finally going out. Woke up in agony. Such was a tonsilectomy back in the day; at least for a 6 year old.

Your post reminded me of early visits to the dentist. Before they used air compressors to power the drills, there were electric motors, rubber bands and articulating arms. Slow moving drill terrified me, justifiably....

 

[Logician Man]

Your post reminded me of early visits to the dentist. Before they used air compressors to power the drills, there were electric motors, rubber bands and articulating arms. Slow moving drill terrified me, justifiably....

Been there, done that, Rex. My uncle ( my dad's younger brother was a dentist). I did all of that, including the rubber band thing for my 2 front main upper teeth. Worked beautifully, actually. Getting the fillings; not fun at all.

 

[JANFU]

I don't know what "Michael Jackson them" means, but I think anesthesia is one of the things used in that ridiculously complicated lethal injection cocktail. If it is painless and fast without paralyzing someone while they are aware of the poison being pumped into their system and slowly killing them, then fine.

Can ya tell me what happens to the executed that are later cleared?

 

[molten_dragon]

I've never understood why they don't just use inert gas for executions. Put the prisoner in a sealed chamber and exchange the atmosphere with nitrogen. There's no buildup of carbon dioxide, so no choking feeling, you just get tired, fall asleep, and don't wake up. Totally painless.

 

[Moi621]

Can ya tell me what happens to the executed that are later cleared?

G*d lets them into Heaven.

 

[Individual]

The life supporting maintenance of those convicted and serving terms in our prison system should not cost taxpayers anything at all, that should be borne entirely by those who are incarcerated.

Application of the death penalty should be by a default method, if an alternate provided choice is not selected by the condemned.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

The life supporting maintenance of those convicted and serving terms in our prison system should not cost taxpayers anything at all, that should be borne entirely by those who are incarcerated.

Application of the death penalty should be by a default method, if an alternate provided choice is not selected by the condemned.

That, indeed, is an excellent way of reducing the prison population because those who simply cannot afford the (roughly) $94.82 per day that it costs to keep a prisoner in a federal institution (on average) will quickly succumb to starvation, dehydration, or disease.

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[pamak]

I will not. It is in fact you who is not doing research

I understand that it is difficult for you to admit your deficiencies.

I do not need to "research" basic knowledge.



https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Exodus-20-13/

“Thou shalt not kill.”

And I do not even practice Christianity.

SMTA said:
‘Thou shall not kill'

Says who?

So that quote is not from the Bible. Because if it were in the Bible it would be easy for you to just cite it

You are embarassing yourself with your demonstated ignorance and the help you seek to verify such basic information.