And we'll get there ... eventually.
Every religion has some type of reformation, Islam hasn't had one yet
Well, all the real Muslims need to get it in gear and do something about all those posers making their religion look bad.
What's needed is secular govenrment. How long was Christianity abused at the hands of government? When Europe had its theocracies they were mostly Christian, and at that time the Christian religion acted not so differently than the Muslim religion now. But we figured out that theocracy perverts the religion, takes it over, warps it to make it work for State ideals, power, and land. Christianity, in order to protect Christianity, divorced itself from government and we instead created secular governments. That allowed the religion to be the religion, to grow and expand and to practice as they see fit. Christianity is not used as it once was, we've allowed it to be free. That's the beauty of secular government, it's for the benefit of religion itself. Theocracy will always lead to perversion of the religion.
And here we go with the "look Christians did this to!!!"
That argument is so old and nothing but a fallacy with no bearing.
Now the rest of your argument I agree with. You could have said all that and got your point across without Christianity being thrown in.
I think I noted that difference. The best thing for the Muslim people to do would be to remove their religion from their government. It's the best way for them to protect their religion.
And we'll get there ... eventually.
Every religion has some type of reformation, Islam hasn't had one yet
You've had fourteen hundred years. What's the hold up?
Laila is certainly doing her share.
Too bad you aren't listening.
I don't disagree with that, but it isn't the government that is rioting over cartoons and crap like that.
It took Christianity as long, if not longer.
And alot more blood was shed to achieve it
But, this is the 21st Century. I mean, c'mon. We're not talking about the 17th Century where reletives 20 miles apart didn't see each other for years at a time.
Doesn't matter.
Don't expect Islam to speed up the process just because it is the 21st century.
It will take as long as needed to achieve it
Christians got a easy time.
At least they had some form of heirarchy of authority. What do we have??
But, this is the 21st Century. I mean, c'mon. We're not talking about the 17th Century where reletives 20 miles apart didn't see each other for years at a time.
Yeah, and I would consider the fact that a majority of Muslims live in a particularly poor and uncivilized part of the world compared to Christians.
The best way for tyrants to remain in charge is to keep their population poor and stupid.
Yeah, and I would consider the fact that a majority of Muslims live in a particularly poor and uncivilized part of the world compared to Christians.
Doesn't help when money flows into the dictators as well
Saudi Arabia is at the centre of exporting its bull**** type of Islam. Remove it, you remove half the problems
I have a Qu'ran from there and where it says in some verses 'slay the infidel' for example. It has in brackets "Christians and Jews" added into it :doh
An outlawed Islamic group going nuts at something like this. Hardly shocking. I hope they all get what is coming to them.
Stuff like that makes me wonder exactly how much of the Holy Bible has been altered for similar purposes.
"Radical Islam", that is Islamists who believe in conducting violent Jihad against all infidels, attacking civilians and innocents, etc, are not exactly a racial or ethnic group, and as a culture they are viewed as an aberration by moderate Muslims such as Laila
Better them eradicated than me tyvm.
As if they'd waste anytime or hesitate to kill people like me if they had the chance.
Excellent point. People who engage in these types of actions are no friend to anyone in the "mainstream."
I suppose they also do not see the irony, Christians calling for the genocide...as if this is not something evil at all.
I do notice sadly that any thread around hear that deals with anything remotely associated with Islam, Middle East, Terrorism, etc.. always boils down to jingoist bile.
No they are not Muslims imo.
I assure you, i do not make it a sport to run around torching Christians
I assure you, i do not make it a sport to run around torching Christians. :liar
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