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Egg prices: US vs Mexico

You need to comprehend why that is the case.

The DO NOT kill chckens just because. None get slaughtered unless bird flu has been detected. So that means there are sick birds. The whole flock gets destroyed because of the way we raise chickens here in the US. Jam backed into coups, literally side by side, so that if bird flu is detected it is highly likely the whole flock is sick, or will be sick. So the only way to prevent its spreading like wildfire is to take out the whole flock when it is detected.

If we wide opened free ranged birds that wouldn't necessarily be required.
I agree with you 100 percent except for you last statement. Free range chickens are also close enough they can also be contagious to each other, and free range chickens are more likely to contact the virus due to contact with wild birds or wild bird feces. Chickens eat some feed on the ground (it can spill out of the feeder) and the aren't picky on what they eat with it.

The only real solution is to raise the chickens indoors, and disinfect anything coming into the building especially the shoes and boots of people that go into the building. Producers are now doing this. My state of Indiana is doing a good job of changing protocols to mitigate the virus.
 
I did a simple search

HB20-1343 established enclosure requirements for farm owners or operators producing eggs and egg products sold in Colorado and requires businesses to sell only cage-free eggs starting in 2025. The law also prohibits Colorado business owners from selling, or transporting for sale in Colorado, eggs and egg products that are not from a cage-free farm. The Colorado Department of Agriculture’s supporting rule(opens in new window) establishes an inspection and certification process for confirming that farms are cage-free, and outlines a recordkeeping process to affirm eggs sold in Colorado are from a certified farm. There are some exceptions to the requirements, including for farming operations with 3,000 or fewer egg-laying hens.

My point to @Mycroft was people elected those who made and passed the law. He should accept the law.
I get your point. No issues with that.

But wow talk about bad timing! Forcing free range when it's impossible to prevent H5N1 with birds outside.
 
I get your point. No issues with that.

But wow talk about bad timing! Forcing free range when it's impossible to prevent H5N1 with birds outside.
Agree.
Yet, if I recall the article correctly the law in CO was started back five years ago before the bird flu became such a threat.
 
You need to comprehend why that is the case.

The DO NOT kill chckens just because.

In this case they killed chickens to try and crash a segment of the economy. They succeeded.


None get slaughtered unless bird flu has been detected. So that means there are sick birds.

Circular logic.

The whole flock gets destroyed because of the way we raise chickens here in the US. Jam backed into coups, literally side by side, so that if bird flu is detected it is highly likely the whole flock is sick, or will be sick. So the only way to prevent its spreading like wildfire is to take out the whole flock when it is detected.

If we wide opened free ranged birds that wouldn't necessarily be required.

California has free range by law, yet Biden destroyed all of the chickens here as well.
 
Last week we paid $15.50 for twenty free range here in CA. Right now it's a matter of supply and demand that is driving up prices and it's not because of inflation as the progressives are saying. It's because of the bird flu.

Too a point. But eggflation contributes to overall inflation, which recently has been moving up.
 
Imagine the federal government putting a 25% tax on food? It's jaw-dropping. Marginal, poverty-stricken people paying the price so the wealthy, influential upper crust can posture.
Much, maybe most, of the wheat used in the US comes from Canada, too.

It could come to a state near you, if Trump is successful in his acquisition attempt!
 
I was skeptical of your statement but yes we only produce 36 percent of the wheat used here. That surprised me.

Which means besides the ever on our minds eggs, bread will now cost more. Beef, too. We import 30% of our beef from Canada.

It's good to see Trump isn't screwing-over all Americans. Only those that eat!
 
I'm imagining a fresh egg encased in a delicate silver cage padded with the hide of a rare and endangered animal, only for them to stumble and bump into a door, smashing the egg.

I'm imagining the egg on their face! :p
 
You guys do know there are other foods available?

Maybe give eggs a rest for a bit?

How can one avoid eggs? They're a key ingredient in food preparation. Similar to milk.
 
lol ayn rand. And LOL libertarians. You guys believe some of the whackiest shit. Almost as bad as flat earthers.

He would be correct to say the libertarians and the RINOs believe in open borders but the entire right, heck no!
 
That is one of the questions I don't know the answer to, and I agree it would be good to know.

I'm assuming our regulations and protections were not sufficient to stop the spread for some reason. And I suspect we are going to infect our neighboring nations production of eggs as well, assuming their systems don't slow or stop it.

So far as I am aware the global egg supply chain has been facing bird flu issues since at least 2022.

Not sure why it's gotten worse in the USA lately.

Edit: https://www.gfmreview.com/commoditi...w-avian-flu-is-reshaping-global-supply-chains

That's right. So, the anti-Trumps are foolish to even try to pin blame on Trump for the egg problem.

However, this is Trump's economy, so when it falters, as I tried to explain to them when Biden was in office, it's on him. That's the way the public sees it anyway.
 
That's right. So, the anti-Trumps are foolish to even try to pin blame on Trump for the egg problem.

However, this is Trump's economy, so when it falters, as I tried to explain to them when Biden was in office, it's on him. That's the way the public sees it anyway.
No one is pinning blame on Trump for the egg problem. Its just Trump promised to tackle the issue on day 1, and he has just ignored it. He over played his hand in the matter and rightfully so he has been been called out on it.


If you are going to try to make political hay out of an issue during the election, don't cry when you are called on it when you ignore the issue. You bought the issue; own it!

What Trump has done, which he rightfully gets blame for, is aggravating inflation by threats of tariffs as well as slowing the economy with mass layoffs in a significant sector of GDP. That is solely on him.

Then again, experts warned that Trump could bring on a recession, and now even he admits it.

 
That's right. So, the anti-Trumps are foolish to even try to pin blame on Trump for the egg problem.

However, this is Trump's economy, so when it falters, as I tried to explain to them when Biden was in office, it's on him. That's the way the public sees it anyway.
Well, tariffs certainly won't help, but I'm not sure much can, apart from some kind of significant increase in spending to combat the spread of the disease infecting the biological component of the egg supply chain.

Edit: Although I think it's way too late for that to help at this point?
 
Last week we paid $15.50 for twenty free range here in CA. Right now it's a matter of supply and demand that is driving up prices and it's not because of inflation as the progressives are saying. It's because of the bird flu.
It's always a matter of supply and demand.
 
Agree.
Yet, if I recall the article correctly the law in CO was started back five years ago before the bird flu became such a threat.
For sure but still bad timing.
 
In this case they killed chickens to try and crash a segment of the economy. They succeeded.
No one has produced evidence that "they killed chickens to try and crash a segment of the economy."


Circular logic.
No, the statement that flocks are culled because bird flu has been detected in the flock, which means there are sick birds in that flock is NOT "circular logic". It's pointing out that flocks are culled when bird flu appears in the flocks (i.e., the presence of sick birds in the flock).
California has free range by law, yet Biden destroyed all of the chickens here as well.
Any free range chickens that were culled were killed because some of the chicken became sick with bird flu. There's no guarantee that "free range" absolutely prevents against infection with bird flu.

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Perhaps @Uncensored2008 doesn't understand that avian flu is "highly pathogenic" to birds.

Perhaps @Uncensored2008 knows that musk-trump-vance seemingly have no strategy to deal with bird flu other than continuing the standard practices.
 

The case for immigration​

Can rich countries accept migrants without jeopardising their democracies?​

Obviously, yes, they can. We've been doing it for 245 years.


Advocates of entirely open borders tend to advance two types of arguments. The first is economic. Opening all borders would make the world instantly richer. Some believe that it could double the world’s GDP. That is because workers become more productive as they move from a poor country to a rich one. They join a labour market with ample capital, efficient firms and a predictable legal system. If they are service workers, they will find richer and better-paying clients. By some estimates, more than two-thirds of a person’s overall wealth is determined by where they live and work.

The second argument for open borders is a moral one. Where someone is born is entirely a matter of chance, so there is no moral justification for compelling people to stay in a poor country. By the same token, those lucky enough to have been born in rich countries have no right to exclude others from their good fortune. Opponents of open borders are not convinced by either of those arguments. Even if the world as a whole were to grow richer thanks to open borders, they say, poorer people in the migrants’ destination countries would suffer. The new arrivals would depress their wages and compete with them for resources such as social housing and unemployment benefits. The welfare states that Western democracies have painstakingly built over the past few decades would collapse under the task of absorbing millions of people ill-suited to local labour markets. Cultural conflicts between natives and immigrants would before long cause violent clashes, threatening social stability.

The Economist
 
How can one avoid eggs? They're a key ingredient in food preparation. Similar to milk.
Exactly. I had vowed to stop buying eggs until the prices come down. I realized I can't even fry a few pieces of chicken without a few eggs. So, I bought a dozen against my better judgement.
 
I haven't seen eggs as jewelry. But I believe I've recently seen them on some MAGA's faces!

Oh no...

Biden won't kill them the way he killed all the chickens, will he?
 
He would be correct to say the libertarians and the RINOs believe in open borders but the entire right, heck no!

I do not believe in open borders.

Without borders there is no nation, no constitution, no civil liberties.
 
I do not believe in open borders.

Without borders there is no nation, no constitution, no civil liberties.

I am glad to hear this. I did some research, and I learned that you're not the only one. Libertarians are fairly split on the issue of borders. My apologies. :)
 
That's right. So, the anti-Trumps are foolish to even try to pin blame on Trump for the egg problem.

However, this is Trump's economy, so when it falters, as I tried to explain to them when Biden was in office, it's on him. That's the way the public sees it anyway.

It was a setup.

Biden slaughtered the nations chickens right before leaving office in order to create this mess with eggs. It was done with complete malice - toward Trump and toward the American people.
 
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