Egg prices: US vs Mexico

[mike2810]

The problem isn't that Mexican eggs are cheaper and that we can't import them. Hell, we produce enough eggs right here in the US.

The problem is state laws that require eggs to be cage free and/or free range.

Are you wanting federal regulation that would override what the State decided regarding egg production?

I used to be able to buy a dozen eggs here in Colorado for less than $2, but since they passed the law requiring all eggs to be cage free, I can't get a dozen for less than $5.

Depending on the subject it seems some are all for State rights to decide an issue as long as it fits their view of the issue.

What would you like the President or Congress do about the issue of raising cage free chickens for egg production?

 

[Mycroft]

Are you wanting federal regulation that would override what the State decided regarding egg production?

???

No. Whatever made you think that? Are you mistaking me with someone who likes big government?

 

[mike2810]

???

No. Whatever made you think that? Are you mistaking me with someone who likes big government?

You posted, "The problem is state laws that require eggs to be cage free and/or free range."

Do you have an issue with the State Law? seems you do.
Was that what the majority of the people in the State wanted?

Then what is your solution besides changing the State law you do not like. How would you go about changing the law?

 

[Mycroft]

You posted, "The problem is state laws that require eggs to be cage free and/or free range."

Yes. I said that.

Do you have an issue with the State Law? seems you do.

Yes. I do.

Was that what the majority of the people in the State wanted?

The people of Colorado didn't vote on the issue.

Then what is your solution besides changing the State law you do not like. How would you go about changing the law?

shrug...

In Colorado, that law won't ever be changed since the state is run by Democrats.

 

[mike2810]

Yes. I said that.


Yes. I do.


The people of Colorado didn't vote on the issue.

Was it the people they elected into State Government?

shrug...

In Colorado, that law won't ever be changed since the state is run by Democrats.

- You are free to move to a Red State.

- There are laws passed in my State that never went to the voters. It was passed by the people we voted into office.
One could say that President Trump and Congress are passing laws/regulations that never was voted on by "the people:"

- Like I have said. you don't like the law on free range. Yet is was made into law by those who were elected. At times some Trump supporters have mentioned the "people" voted Trump into office along with a GOP Congress. If one disagrees with what they are doing, live with it, the "people" have spoken is the justification given. Seems that should apply to who gets voted into office at the State level.

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[Kushinator]

Last week we paid $15.50 for twenty free range here in CA. Right now it's a matter of supply and demand that is driving up prices and it's not because of inflation as the progressives are saying. It's because of the bird flu.

What exactly is inflation?

 

[EnigmaO01]

Much, maybe most, of the wheat used in the US comes from Canada, too.

I was skeptical of your statement but yes we only produce 36 percent of the wheat used here. That surprised me.

 

[Phys251]

@Phys251 Of course I'm serious.

What exactly is the big deal about crossing political borders? People should be allowed to live wherever they choose. The same people who have no problem with an open border between CT and NY or California and Nevada, have a major stroke over an open border between the US and Mexico. It makes no sense whatsoever. Both countries would benefit.

You are the only righty I've ever seen advocating for open borders. Can you convince your friends on the right that your idea is a good one?

 

[Grand Mal]

I was skeptical of your statement but yes we only produce 36 percent of the wheat used here. That surprised me.

I can't keep track. Is that tariff still on wheat? 25% more for a sack of flour is quite a hit. Especially for low-income Americans. Flour, bread, pasta, those are things that lower-income people rely on.
Seems like poor people paying the price, taking the hit, so wealthy, influential people can posture.
Food staples, industrial raw materials, energy, those are the things the US government is applying a tax to.

 

[trixare4kids]

So you are paying about $9.30 a dozen? Damn!!

Yep. This is a bit higher than most egg prices in our area. Most of the grocery story prices are $5.00 to $10 a dozen.

 

[trixare4kids]

What exactly is inflation?

Look it up. I'm not your dictionary.

 

[aociswundumho]

You are the only righty I've ever seen advocating for open borders. Can you convince your friends on the right that your idea is a good one?

You're confusing maga republicans with the right wing. The entire right supports open borders. Here's Ayn Rand:

“The same motives that move people to collectivist ideologies at home move them to immigration restrictions. Immigration quotas are an attempt to protect the jobs of some Americans at the expense of others, which means: at the expense of ability, of merit, of rationality, of self-esteem, of individualism.”

Milton Friedman:

“I am in favor of legalizing drugs. According to the standard doctrines of economics, the prohibition of drugs creates an enormously lucrative black market. Similarly, I am in favor of open immigration."

From the Libertarian Party platform:

We support the removal of governmental impediments to free trade. Political freedom and escape from tyranny demand that individuals not be unreasonably constrained by government in the crossing of political boundaries. Economic freedom demands the unrestricted movement of human as well as financial capital across national borders.

Restricting the movement of people is entirely left-wing. The Berlin Wall was built by East Germany, not West. The USSR had an internal passport system, which would be like you needing a passport to cross from Nevada into California. Finally, here's Bernie Sanders calling open borders a right-wing Koch brothers proposal:

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[rahl]

You're confusing maga republicans with the right wing. The entire right supports open borders. Here's Ayn Rand:



Milton Friedman:



From the Libertarian Party platform:



Restricting the movement of people is entirely left-wing. The Berlin Wall was built by East Germany, not West. The USSR had an internal passport system, which would be like you needing a passport to cross from Nevada into California. Finally, here's Bernie Sanders calling open borders a right-wing Koch brothers proposal:

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lol ayn rand. And LOL libertarians. You guys believe some of the whackiest shit. Almost as bad as flat earthers.

 

[slavablueberryjam]

A guy goes to a Walmart in Mexico to check out egg prices:



So why can't US grocery stores simply import eggs from Mexico? Because the goddamn progressive regulatory state prohibits it, just like it prohibits importing insulin.

Never forget: the main purpose of government regulation is to restrict our choices, thereby making us worse off.

And why do they restrict 'our' choices? Because multinational governments pay the legislators with stock tips and other forms of bribery! Time to go after the corruption, is you so as much care about being price gouged by the wealthiest members in society!

 

[aociswundumho]

You guys believe some of the whackiest shit.

As opposed to you, who believes the Jews murdered by Hitler didn't have the right to live.

Yeah, I'm the crazy one.

 

[bongsaway]

A guy goes to a Walmart in Mexico to check out egg prices:



So why can't US grocery stores simply import eggs from Mexico? Because the goddamn progressive regulatory state prohibits it, just like it prohibits importing insulin.

Never forget: the main purpose of government regulation is to restrict our choices, thereby making us worse off.

• Prohibited Imports:
  The U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) has warned that importing raw/fresh eggs, raw chicken, or live birds from Mexico is prohibited.
  
  Hope that helps?

 

[The Mark]

A guy goes to a Walmart in Mexico to check out egg prices:



So why can't US grocery stores simply import eggs from Mexico? Because the goddamn progressive regulatory state prohibits it, just like it prohibits importing insulin.

Never forget: the main purpose of government regulation is to restrict our choices, thereby making us worse off.

I assume it's because the domestic egg producers want to protect their market, so they supported regulations that prevent it.

That would be about standard for most issues we face - they are caused by a desire for profit.

 

[The Mark]

I'm tired of all of this stupid egg bullshit. I hope that people start wearing them as jewelry and **** up their outfits with them.

I'm imagining a fresh egg encased in a delicate silver cage padded with the hide of a rare and endangered animal, only for them to stumble and bump into a door, smashing the egg.

 

[bongsaway]

In California it wouldn't matter if there were tariffs on eggs.

We have free range chicken laws that require each chicken to have its own 400 square foot studio apartment that Mexico and many other states don't abide by. So they wouldn't be able to bring their dirty filthy eggs into our utopian paradise anyway.

So you don't want their dirty eggs here but a bunch of your GOP friends do.

 

[bongsaway]

The problem isn't that Mexican eggs are cheaper and that we can't import them. Hell, we produce enough eggs right here in the US.

The problem is state laws that require eggs to be cage free and/or free range.

I used to be able to buy a dozen eggs here in Colorado for less than $2, but since they passed the law requiring all eggs to be cage free, I can't get a dozen for less than $5.

Oh horse crap, we all know it's biden's doing because you guys told us so, over and over again.

 

[rahl]

As opposed to you, who believes the Jews murdered by Hitler didn't have the right to live.

Strawman.

Yeah, I'm the crazy one.

I know. Libertarians believe some of the dumbest shit.

 

[trouble13]

I had not thought about this question until I saw this thread but I wonder why neither Canada or Mexico is experiencing similar shortages as the U.S. is. It seems odd that it isn't affecting the entire continent considering how hard we are feeling it.

 

[The Mark]

I had not thought about this question until I saw this thread but I wonder why neither Canada or Mexico is experiencing similar shortages as the U.S. is. It seems odd that it isn't affecting the entire continent considering how hard we are feeling it.

I think we would need to dig into what is causing the shortages and price increases, and how closely connected those causes are, if they are not the same thing.

I've heard/read that bird flu of some sort is infecting large flocks of laying hens and the supply chain of replacement chickens as well, and that the way they are trying to stop it is by culling any infected chickens or flocks.
So I'm assuming a large part of the supply issue is due to that.

What I do not know is whether the entire price increase is due to reduced supply, or whether some or all of the companies producing or selling eggs are increasing prices while pretending it is all due to supply shortages.

 

[MaryP]

Eggs in Canada are about $4.50. Here in FL they are $7 in Publix which is about $9 plus Canadian . I read that the US was looking to increase imports of Canadian eggs.....my answer...sure, with a 25% surtax.

No bird flu there? Lucky!

 

[trouble13]

I think we would need to dig into what is causing the shortages and price increases, and how closely connected those causes are, if they are not the same thing.

I've heard/read that bird flu of some sort is infecting large flocks of laying hens and the supply chain of replacement chickens as well, and that the way they are trying to stop it is by culling any infected chickens or flocks.
So I'm assuming a large part of the supply issue is due to that.

What I do not know is whether the entire price increase is due to reduced supply, or whether some or all of the companies producing or selling eggs are increasing prices while pretending it is all due to supply shortages.

I would think the bird flu is in Canada and Mexico too. My question is why is the US being hit harder by it?