Ebola May Be Fatal For Democrats On Tuesday

[Ontologuy]

It's one thing when Obama and his fellow liberals, the Democrats, make a mountain out of a molehill with the oxymoronic "Gay Marriage" pandering to less than 2 percent of the population, while great issues of our time like the post-Great Recession un-recovered drop in the average American's daily income continues to create misery for the majority of Americans.

It's one thing when Obama and his fellow liberals, the Democrats, make a mountain out of a molehill with "the Washington NFL team should drop the 'Redskins' name" pandering to less than 5 percent of the population, while great issues of our time like the continued off-shoring of Americans' living-wage jobs continues to force millions of Americans to take dead-end jobs that can barely keep a roof over their head.

It's one thing when Obama and his fellow liberals, the Democrats, make a mountain out of a molehill with "we need to legalize drugs" pandering to less than 12 percent of the population who are drug abusers, while great issues of our time like a looming recession that would harm the majority of Americans is not addressed with preemptive measures.

It's one thing when Obama and his fellow liberals, the Democrats, make a mountain out of a molehill with "we need to legalize the '11 million' 'undocumented immigrants' and make these 'Hispanics' citizens" pandering to less than 15 percent of the population, while great issues of our time like the misery-creating over-population and crime-creating damage that does to our major cities decreases the quality of life for the majority of Americans.

But, it's quite another when Obama and his fellow liberals, the Democrats, belittle, demean, and mock the intelligent real concerns of the great majority of Americans about Ebola that's now reached our country by simply replying "don't panic -- you likely won't catch Ebola -- so we don't need quarantines of high-risk people (contaminated West Africans flying here or returning intimate-care healthcare workers)", when the facts of Ebola, all the facts, not just the partial list the left-wing Democrats want us to know, certainly mandate those quarantines, causing great concern among the great majority of Americans.

Yes, Americans tolerating their wallets and economic quality of life descent while the Democrats "strain at a gnat and swallow a camel" in their focus on comparative absolute nothings pandering for more voters to vote Democrat, these, the great majority of Americans, have already responded reducing the Democrats in the House.

Now, however, with their very lives feeling threatened by Obama and his fellow liberals, the Democrats, "do little or nothing at all" so-called "prevention" policy of an Ebola epidemic in America, a policy that by its very nature is guaranteed to understandably cause anxiety among the great majority of Americans (over 91% polled who want flight restrictions for West Africans and 75% on average polled who want quarantines for high-risk healthcare workers returning) who have read all the facts on Ebola, not just the "convenient" ones the Democrats want you to hear that paint the illusion that "the Democrats have kept you safe", the great majority of Americans are now poised to remove the Democrats from the majority in the Senate too.

And, understandably so.

The Republicans have been supportive of the great majority's concerns with regard to the great issues of our time .. including our intelligent real concerns about Ebola. Understandably, it makes sense they'd win on Tuesday over their Democrat opponents, if enough of the fed-up great majority went out to vote in a non-presidential-election year.

The great majority of Americans are simply now fed up with the liberal Democrats' focus on tons of absolute nothing issues, issues that are simply irrelevant to the great majority of American citizens or are an injustice slap in their face, while the great issues of our time are being simply ignored by the Democrats.

It's one thing when that adversely affects our sensibilities and our wallet.

It's quite another when that, the Democrats' cavalier unintelligent mocking of intelligent real concerns about deadly Ebola, adversely affects our very lives, the lives of our loved-one, the lives of our children.

Yes, this likely fatal "last straw" breech of public trust by the Democrats about deadly Ebola may indeed be just that: fatal for the Democrats on Tuesday.

And rightly so.

 

[StillBallin75]

So gays represent 2 percent of our population. Pandering.
People who support a Redskins name change/Native Americans who might support a name change, 5 percent. Pandering.
People who are drug abusers according to you, 12 percent, pandering.
Hispanics, 15 percent, pandering.

People who have died from the current Ebola epidemic...1 person. Not pandering, Republicans know what's really at stake.

 

[mak2]

Anybody that would change their vote because of the way Ebola has been handled is too stupid ot vote. They just are...I never thought I would say that, all citizens qualified to vote should always be able to, but this, I think, is a step too far. I think everyone who is going into hysterics over Ebola should be put in immediate isolation without their computers so they dont infect the internet.

So gays represent 2 percent of our population. Pandering.
People who support a Redskins name change/Native Americans who might support a name change, 5 percent. Pandering.
People who are drug abusers according to you, 12 percent, pandering.
Hispanics, 15 percent, pandering.

People who have died from the current Ebola epidemic...1 person. Not pandering, Republicans know what's really at stake.

 

[Ontologuy]

So gays represent 2 percent of our population. Pandering.
People who support a Redskins name change/Native Americans who might support a name change, 5 percent. Pandering.
People who are drug abusers according to you, 12 percent, pandering.
Hispanics, 15 percent, pandering.

People who have died from the current Ebola epidemic...1 person. Not pandering, Republicans know what's really at stake.

Your post is meaningless illogical rhetoric, the kind of erroneous ludicrous "reasoning" the great majority of Americans see right through.

They will not be fooled on Tuesday.

 

[ttwtt78640]

The media has made the possibility of a "massive" change in the Senate, where 90% of incumbents will be re-elected, into a mountain but it is really a mere mole hill. The huge federal nanny state demorats will lose a little ground to the huge federal nanny state republicants - so what?

https://www.opensecrets.org/bigpicture/reelect.php

Congressional stagnation in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Ontologuy]

The media has made the possibility of a "massive" change in the Senate, where 90% of incumbents will be re-elected, into a mountain but it is really a mere mole hill. The huge federal nanny state demorats will lose a little ground to the huge federal nanny state republicants - so what?

https://www.opensecrets.org/bigpicture/reelect.php

Congressional stagnation in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So if the Senate becomes 52 to 48 with the majority being Republicans, it means that liberal Harry Reid is gone from leadership power, and it means that without a Senate majority, truly lame duck Obama will not be so easily able to ramrod "executive order" damage down the great majority of Americans' throats.

This may seem like a small thing, as somewhat it does to me, as I would much rather see a centrist majority in every branch of government.

But, for now, it would be a small victory.

And I would take that.

As it would be a victory, nonetheless.

 

[Dittohead not!]

If the Democrats lose the Senate, it won't be because of Ebola. Talk about making mountains out of molehills, that's a prime example!

If the Democrats lose the Senate, it will be because the voters are fed up with the dysfunctional Congress that seems unable to address anything but stupid partisanship, and think it's time for some new blood.

Unfortunately for us, simply changing the balance of power from the Tweedledumocrats to the Tweedleblicans isn't going to make much of a difference.

It's time for a revolution at the ballot box: Don't vote for any incumbents.

 

[Ontologuy]

Anybody that would change their vote because of the way Ebola has been handled is too stupid ot vote. They just are...I never thought I would say that, all citizens qualified to vote should always be able to, but this, I think, is a step too far. I think everyone who is going into hysterics over Ebola should be put in immediate isolation without their computers so they dont infect the internet.

Just remember, that those people you egregiously and erroneously mock as "going into 'hysterics' over Ebola", polls show that they number 75% (wanting quarantines for high-risk returning healthcare workers and observation-monitoring for low-risk ones) and 91% (wanting extensive screening for West Africans before they are allowed to come to America).

These are sensible, intelligent measures, called for in the face of all facts about Ebola, not just the convenient abbreviated list of facts the White House wants us to know ..

.. And they hardly qualify as measures that reflect "going into hysterics".

So just remember, that these people, composed mostly of centrists, but also of right and left -wingers too ..

.. Quite a number of them vote.

You might do well to be a little more diplomatic .. and a little less condescending.

 

[ttwtt78640]

So if the Senate becomes 52 to 48 with the majority being Republicans, it means that liberal Harry Reid is gone from leadership power, and it means that without a Senate majority, truly lame duck Obama will not be so easily able to ramrod "executive order" damage down the great majority of Americans' throats.

This may seem like a small thing, as somewhat it does to me, as I would much rather see a centrist majority in every branch of government.

But, for now, it would be a small victory.

And I would take that.

As it would be a victory, nonetheless.

Um, EOs do not need congressional approval.

 

[mak2]

This is science, not politics, polls should not even be a consideration. There is absolutely no reason to isolate someone you KNOW not to be contagious, no matter what the polls say. It is, indeed hysteria.

Just remember, that those people you egregiously and erroneously mock as "going into 'hysterics' over Ebola", polls show that they number 75% (wanting quarantines for high-risk returning healthcare workers and observation-monitoring for low-risk ones) and 91% (wanting extensive screening for West Africans before they are allowed to come to America).

These are sensible, intelligent measures, called for in the face of all facts about Ebola, not just the convenient abbreviated list of facts the White House wants us to know ..

.. And they hardly qualify as measures that reflect "going into hysterics".

So just remember, that these people, composed mostly of centrists, but also of right and left -wingers too ..

.. Quite a number of them vote.

You might do well to be a little more diplomatic .. and a little less condescending.

 

[Ontologuy]

If the Democrats lose the Senate, it won't be because of Ebola. Talk about making mountains out of molehills, that's a prime example!

If the Democrats lose the Senate, it will be because the voters are fed up with the dysfunctional Congress that seems unable to address anything but stupid partisanship, and think it's time for some new blood.

Unfortunately for us, simply changing the balance of power from the Tweedledumocrats to the Tweedleblicans isn't going to make much of a difference.

It's time for a revolution at the ballot box: Don't vote for any incumbents.

Actually, your statements are clearly false.

Ebola is the in-every-news-feed current new issue of our time.

It has the attention of everyone, due to its deadly nature and the horrific epidemic in West Africa .. and because now Ebola, previously thought of as just an African disease or a "terrorist" weapon .. has now reached American shores.

Clearly, with Obama and the liberal Democrats' mocking the intelligent real concerns of 75% of Americans (who quarantines for high-risk returning healthcare workers) and 91% of Americans who want West Africans extensively screened before coming here .. oh yes, it makes intelligent real sense that more people will be voting and more people will not be voting Democrat.

As to your statement about the dysfunctional congress, it's dysfunctional because of the Democrats and Harry Reid, clearly. With them gone, and Obama a lame duck for sure, America will be quite a bit functionally safer.

And, your "tweedle dee, tweedle dum" asumption that "what America needs is Libertarian Party" people in office .. dream on.

The Libertarian Party was never a player and never will be. By its very nature it will always appeal to too small of faction of Americans to ever be anything more than a losing third party.

 

[mak2]

Ebola has been used as a terrorist weapon?

Actually, your statements are clearly false.

Ebola is the in-every-news-feed current new issue of our time.

It has the attention of everyone, due to its deadly nature and the horrific epidemic in West Africa .. and because now Ebola, previously thought of as just an African disease or a "terrorist" weapon .. has now reached American shores.

Clearly, with Obama and the liberal Democrats' mocking the intelligent real concerns of 75% of Americans (who quarantines for high-risk returning healthcare workers) and 91% of Americans who want West Africans extensively screened before coming here .. oh yes, it makes intelligent real sense that more people will be voting and more people will not be voting Democrat.

As to your statement about the dysfunctional congress, it's dysfunctional because of the Democrats and Harry Reid, clearly. With them gone, and Obama a lame duck for sure, America will be quite a bit functionally safer.

And, your "tweedle dee, tweedle dum" asumption that "what America needs is Libertarian Party" people in office .. dream on.

The Libertarian Party was never a player and never will be. By its very nature it will always appeal to too small of faction of Americans to ever be anything more than a losing third party.

 

[Jetboogieman]

Ontologuy, seriously, isn't there a street corner where you could be holding a sign spreading fear instead, it'll have just as much impact as posting on this forum, that being zero.

Your desire to spread misinformation and fear about this thing is not only dumb, but boring, we've read your long winded diatribes and we're bored.

 

[Dittohead not!]

Actually, your statements are clearly false.

Ebola is the in-every-news-feed current new issue of our time.

It has the attention of everyone, due to its deadly nature and the horrific epidemic in West Africa .. and because now Ebola, previously thought of as just an African disease or a "terrorist" weapon .. has now reached American shores.

Clearly, with Obama and the liberal Democrats' mocking the intelligent real concerns of 75% of Americans (who quarantines for high-risk returning healthcare workers) and 91% of Americans who want West Africans extensively screened before coming here .. oh yes, it makes intelligent real sense that more people will be voting and more people will not be voting Democrat.

As to your statement about the dysfunctional congress, it's dysfunctional because of the Democrats and Harry Reid, clearly. With them gone, and Obama a lame duck for sure, America will be quite a bit functionally safer.

And, your "tweedle dee, tweedle dum" asumption that "what America needs is Libertarian Party" people in office .. dream on.

The Libertarian Party was never a player and never will be. By its very nature it will always appeal to too small of faction of Americans to ever be anything more than a losing third party.

Ebola has been hyped in the media, that's for sure, and the Republicans are making a big deal out of it hoping to blame the manufactured crisis on the Democrats. That's what Republicans do, make up crises to blame on the Democrats and hype up real problems and blame them on Democrats as well. Meanwhile, the strategy of Democrats is to blame Republicans for all ills, real or imagined. That's why Congress is dysfunctional, the goal of the two parties is to blame as much as possible on the other guys instead of finding ways of dealing with real problems.

It's not dysfunctional due to Democrats, nor due to Republicans. The idea that partisanship is a problem, but it's all due to one party is absurd.

Would the libertarian party ever do any better? We'll likely never know as the two major parties have such a stranglehold on politics that it is almost impossible for a real independent or member of a third party to ever get any real power.

So, the voters change from one party to the other, expecting some sort of change when one or the other takes power, but nothing changes, and why? Because both of them dance to the tune of the major donors and not to the needs of the American public, that's why.

Tweedledumocrats/Tweedledeeblicans, that's all they are.

 

[eohrnberger]

Meh.

It isn't going to be Ebola that'll be fatal for the Democrats.

However, the stumbling response to Ebola will probably be part of it. But it'll also be about many other issues, dysfunctional Senate, for example.

 

[Ontologuy]

Um, EOs do not need congressional approval.

But they are less likely to be made with both houses of Congress in majority disapproval.

 

[ttwtt78640]

But they are less likely to be made with both houses of Congress in majority disapproval.

I have to disagree - that would likely just increase the "need" for Obama to use EOs to "do the right thing". Most EOs are done simply because the congress critters will not do the deed on the behalf of the POTUS.

 

[Ontologuy]

This is science, not politics, polls should not even be a consideration. There is absolutely no reason to isolate someone you KNOW not to be contagious, no matter what the polls say. It is, indeed hysteria.

Your first sentence is obviously false. You imply that science does not support the polling result, but it does, all of the science, not just the limited list of it the Obama administration wants us to consider. When the poll numbers are this large, the complete science is implied.

Your second sentence is false, and plays on the ignorance of people. Everyone knows that we don't quarantine people "because they're not contagious". We quarantine people during their incubation period because if they are not quarantined and they do come down with the disease while they're out and about among the public, they could most certainly contagiously contaminate others with the deadly disease, and that risk is deemed too great a damage to take a chance on, so people are quarantined so that when they eventually do become contagious, they won't have any window of opportunity to spread their deadly disease and thus cause an epidemic. We are especially concerned about spreading the disease that way to our poverty enclaves who can't afford life-saving treatment, will be cared for at home by their loved ones, who'll then catch it .. and the solid logic of this concern causes us to want to avoid having a West Africa repeat here. That you play on the ignorance of people, hoping they won't get that, is simply egregious.

And, of course, your last sentence is simply a mocking for political purposes, to erroneously downplay the intelligent real concerns of the great majority of Americans so your political candidates who mock like you do won't take it on the chin tomorrow in the election.

Your entire post is simply a huge fail .. and the great majority of Americans know it.

 

[Ontologuy]

Ebola has been hyped in the media, that's for sure, and the Republicans are making a big deal out of it hoping to blame the manufactured crisis on the Democrats. That's what Republicans do, make up crises to blame on the Democrats and hype up real problems and blame them on Democrats as well. Meanwhile, the strategy of Democrats is to blame Republicans for all ills, real or imagined. That's why Congress is dysfunctional, the goal of the two parties is to blame as much as possible on the other guys instead of finding ways of dealing with real problems.

It's not dysfunctional due to Democrats, nor due to Republicans. The idea that partisanship is a problem, but it's all due to one party is absurd.

Would the libertarian party ever do any better? We'll likely never know as the two major parties have such a stranglehold on politics that it is almost impossible for a real independent or member of a third party to ever get any real power.

So, the voters change from one party to the other, expecting some sort of change when one or the other takes power, but nothing changes, and why? Because both of them dance to the tune of the major donors and not to the needs of the American public, that's why.

Tweedledumocrats/Tweedledeeblicans, that's all they are.

Your statements here are essentially all false.

As to we'll never know if your Libertarian Party would have been any better, we clearly do know, intuitively, and obviously so, because it only appeals to a very tiny percent of Americans, mostly young, white, single, childless males.

It fails with everyone else, more so than even the Repubs or the Dems.

If what I'm saying here wasn't true, the Libertarian Party would long ago have been in power.

Your pandering is obvious, and it comes at the expense of the truth about Ebola's effect on the populace and how the issue will hurt the Dems tomorrow because they've mocked the intelligent real concerns of the great majority of Americans on this issue.

 

[Slartibartfast]

So gays represent 2 percent of our population. Pandering.
People who support a Redskins name change/Native Americans who might support a name change, 5 percent. Pandering.
People who are drug abusers according to you, 12 percent, pandering.
Hispanics, 15 percent, pandering.

People who have died from the current Ebola epidemic...1 person. Not pandering, Republicans know what's really at stake.

inaccurate political assessment ... priceless

 

[Ontologuy]

I have to disagree - that would likely just increase the "need" for Obama to use EOs to "do the right thing". Most EOs are done simply because the congress critters will not do the deed on the behalf of the POTUS.

If he did so then, there would be calls for impeachment (if it's lets say, making illegal aliens legal citizens or the like), and will all but guarantee across-the-board Republican wins in 2016.

He's a lame duck.

He'll know better than to make his party the same in 2016.

Clearly, a minority of Dems in both Houses will cause him to think twice, as he will have known which way voters are now going, and he won't do anything to upset them.

 

[mak2]

What other disease do we isolate people we KNOW are not contagious? We do patients of airborne diseases if we are not sure. But the instant we aresure they are not, they are out of isolation. we do know ebola is not airborn and we know when you become contagious with it. The way we handle ebola is not something new, it has been studied since the 70's. Again repeating political talking points doesnt change the science.

Your first sentence is obviously false. You imply that science does not support the polling result, but it does, all of the science, not just the limited list of it the Obama administration wants us to consider. When the poll numbers are this large, the complete science is implied.

Your second sentence is false, and plays on the ignorance of people. Everyone knows that we don't quarantine people "because they're not contagious". We quarantine people during their incubation period because if they are not quarantined and they do come down with the disease while they're out and about among the public, they could most certainly contagiously contaminate others with the deadly disease, and that risk is deemed too great a damage to take a chance on, so people are quarantined so that when they eventually do become contagious, they won't have any window of opportunity to spread their deadly disease and thus cause an epidemic. We are especially concerned about spreading the disease that way to our poverty enclaves who can't afford life-saving treatment, will be cared for at home by their loved ones, who'll then catch it .. and the solid logic of this concern causes us to want to avoid having a West Africa repeat here. That you play on the ignorance of people, hoping they won't get that, is simply egregious.

And, of course, your last sentence is simply a mocking for political purposes, to erroneously downplay the intelligent real concerns of the great majority of Americans so your political candidates who mock like you do won't take it on the chin tomorrow in the election.

Your entire post is simply a huge fail .. and the great majority of Americans know it.

 

[Ontologuy]

What other disease do we isolate people we KNOW are not contagious? We do patients of airborne diseases if we are not sure. But the instant we aresure they are not, they are out of isolation. we do know ebola is not airborn and we know when you become contagious with it. The way we handle ebola is not something new, it has been studied since the 70's. Again repeating political talking points doesnt change the science.

Your false constructs about Ebola and presuppositions about dealing with related issues are simply cognitive distortions, likely triggered by political expediency.

I clearly presented the very intelligent real concerns about the matter and the logical rational fact-based reasons for it.

That you won't or can't accept the clearly easy to comprehend fact-based truths about the matter is your problem.

The great majority of Americans simply do not have the same problem you do in grasping these obvious realities that I've presented.

 

[mak2]

I think the problem is the great majoity of Americans have never had a micro class and have no idea what they are talking about. What were you talking about terrorist and ebola?

Your false constructs about Ebola and presuppositions about dealing with related issues are simply cognitive distortions, likely triggered by political expediency.

I clearly presented the very intelligent real concerns about the matter and the logical rational fact-based reasons for it.

That you won't or can't accept the clearly easy to comprehend fact-based truths about the matter is your problem.

The great majority of Americans simply do not have the same problem you do in grasping these obvious realities that I've presented.

 

[Ontologuy]

I think the problem is the great majoity of Americans have never had a micro class and have no idea what they are talking about. What were you talking about terrorist and ebola?

False, obviously.

You are simply continuing with your cognitive distortions because they comfort you.