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Early US intel assessment suggests strikes on Iran did not destroy nuclear sites, sources say

anatta said:
On June 22, officials from the Israeli military told the New York Times that the Fordow nuclear site was substantially damaged, but not destroyed. The officials also indicated that Iran may have moved uranium away from the site before the attack. Regardless of whether the Fordow facility is completely destroyed, it is highly unlikely that enrichment activities will resume at Fordow in the near future.
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Damn, the lefties here were so hopeful that there was no damage done. Don't worry lefties, we have plenty of bombs left.
 
anatta said:
www.csis.org

What Operation Midnight Hammer Means for the Future of Iran’s Nuclear Ambitions

Operation Midnight Hammer struck Iran's key nuclear sites at Fordow, Natanz, and Isfahan using B-2s and Tomahawk cruise missiles. This effort aimed to destroy Iran’s uranium enrichment facilities, but its success is still to be determined.
www.csis.org www.csis.org
The Isfahan nuclear complex conducts several key activities in Iran’s nuclear program. The nuclear campus includes a chemical laboratory, a uranium conversion plant to prepare uranium for enrichment, the Tehran reactor fuel manufacturing plant, a centrifuge manufacturing facility, and a metal processing facility. On June 13, the same Israeli attack also struck the chemical laboratory, conversion plant, fuel manufacturing plant, and metal processing facility. It is unclear what specific capabilities the recent U.S. attacks on June 21 with Tomahawk missiles were targeting.

the targets attacked at Isfahan may not have required deep earth penetration capabilities. Nevertheless, satellite imagery reveals that the Tomahawk strikes at Isfahan dealt significant damage to several buildings at the nuclear complex.
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This whole post looks like AI to me. The only question is whether it's Grok, Gemini or ChatGPT.
 
Allan said:
I guess the program infrastructure is very well protected.

Starting from the position that Iran can never possess a nuclear weapon, and taking into consideration that America's biggest bombs can't completely destroy their ability to produce one, what is the next step?



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"according to an early US intelligence assessment that was described by seven people briefed on it."

Described by several people briefed on it? What a loaded sentence. Several people were briefed on it by whom? By US intelligence?
 
anatta said:
Regardless of whether the Fordow facility is completely destroyed, it is highly unlikely that enrichment activities will resume at Fordow in the near future.
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That you cannot copy and paste the excerpt from the nytimes - and provide the link to the article - calls into question what you've posted.

If you don't have a subscription and thus cannot see the article, that's on you. I'd advise you to refrain from citing the nytimes under these conditions.

The Israelis, per the copy and paste excerpt I've posted from today's nytimes article, point this out:

Initial Israeli damage assessments have also raised questions of the effectiveness of the strikes. Israeli defense officials said they have also collected evidence that the underground facilities at Fordo were not destroyed.


Trump was wrong last night to claim Fordo was obliterated/destroyed/eliminated/whatever.
 
justoneman said:
"according to an early US intelligence assessment that was described by seven people briefed on it."

Described by several people briefed on it? What a loaded sentence. Several people were briefed on it by whom? By US intelligence?
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I sure hope they don't know about flex tape.

 
Anthony60 said:
Damn, the lefties here were so hopeful that there was no damage done. Don't worry lefties, we have plenty of bombs left.
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Ah, but no one has said "there was no damage done". When you misrepresent what other posters have said, you inflict serious damage on your credibility.

What we are doing is pointing out that trump's claims the attacks were “a spectacular military success” and “Iran’s key nuclear enrichment facilities have been completely and totally obliterated" were stunningly wrong.
 
911Sparky said:
Don't you think both Israel and the US have assets on the ground in Iran to judge the effectiveness of the air strike? I have no idea how CNN got the story, but I have little doubt it is more accurate than trump's "everything was obliterated" nonsense,
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Of course you do....it's anti-Trump.
 
Fearandloathing said:
Yes.

For all we know he bombed a car lot.

His word is of zero value. He lies more than he tells the truth. He has never been even remotely honest with the American people.

Frankly I doubt he knows the difference between bullshit and chicken shit, he's filled with both!
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But, but, but.....Trump is the one with the problem, right?
 
Chomsky said:
That's a fair criticism.

However the White House & Hegseth acknowledged the assessment, and specifically cited the assessment as wrong.

AP, NYT, WAPO, and other established news orgs are now carrying the story - besides CNN.

And perhaps most importantly, those claiming "total destruction" never produce proof of their hyperbolic assertions.
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Has anyone actually seen this so-called "report" or are we left believing or disbelieving anonymous sources? Do you think President Trump has less access to information than these leakers?
 
redbeer said:
Of course you do....it's anti-Trump.
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TRUMP is anti-trump, when he posts this idiocy shortly after the bombing, when no one can possibly know the results:


trump's claims the attacks were “a spectacular military success” and “Iran’s key nuclear enrichment facilities have been completely and totally obliterated"


Trump's over-the-top claims (such as the above) are often proved to be very wrong. He sets himself up as a laughingstock.

He's his own worst enemy.
 
ElChupacabra said:
Sure, but you have the administration stating everything's been annihilated/obliterated/destroyed bigly.
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Why does the left feel the need to rush to judgement?......and from "anonymous sources" at that. This happens literally "all the time".......they are pulling your strings to get you to do their dirty work.......and ain't you proud.
 
Pyrite said:
TRUMP is anti-trump, when he posts this idiocy shortly after the bombing, when no one can possibly know the results:


trump's claims the attacks were “a spectacular military success” and “Iran’s key nuclear enrichment facilities have been completely and totally obliterated"


Trump's over-the-top claims (such as the above) are often proved to be very wrong. He sets himself up as a laughingstock.

He's his own worst enemy.
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He damn sure gets under the skin of the opposition.
 
Pyrite said:
Ah, but no one has said "there was no damage done". When you misrepresent what other posters have said, you inflict serious damage on your credibility.
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I never said that anyone said that. So, you misrepresent what I posted, followed by you talking about how bad that is for credibility. Nice job, you just owned yourself.
 
redbeer said:
He damn sure gets under the skin of the opposition.
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Well, sure....he makes this country a laughingstock.

When he simply and obviously makes things up

trump's claims the attacks were “a spectacular military success” and “Iran’s key nuclear enrichment facilities have been completely and totally obliterated"

he acts like a blowhard and a braggard - like a two-year-old brat.

Worse, when he's proved wrong, he makes all of us look stupid and unserious.
 
My brother Trump is like an old grandpa who gets caught inflating his wealth, and then takes it out on Facebook.
 
Anthony60 said:
I never said that anyone said that. So, you misrepresent what I posted, followed by you talking about how bad that is for credibility. Nice job, you just owned yourself.
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No one here said no damage was done, no one here was hopeful no damage was done.

UNLESS you can come up with the quotes and the post numbers?

What you're avoiding, however, is the problem that trump said this:

the attacks were “a spectacular military success” and “Iran’s key nuclear enrichment facilities have been completely and totally obliterated"

And he now looks very, very foolish, and very, very stupid.


PLUS: all that money was spent on a mission that doesn't seem to have been accomplished. And perhaps could not be accomplished.

Trump wasted money that could have been used to give more tax cuts to the wealthy. Aren't you pissed about this?
 
Pyrite said:
Well, sure....he makes this country a laughingstock.

When he simply and obviously makes things up

trump's claims the attacks were “a spectacular military success” and “Iran’s key nuclear enrichment facilities have been completely and totally obliterated"

he acts like a blowhard and a braggard - like a two-year-old brat.

Worse, when he's proved wrong, he makes all of us look stupid and unserious.
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Lol, as usual the left jumped on the bandwagon of "anonymous" sources and prematurely wet themselves, lol.
 
redbeer said:
Lol, as usual the left jumped on the bandwagon of "anonymous" sources and prematurely wet themselves, lol.
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Credible sources have been quoted. If you want to try to impeach the nytimes and npr, go for it.

AND Leavitt acknowledged the existence of the report.

Plus, there's this from the Israelis:


...Initial Israeli damage assessments have also raised questions of the effectiveness of the strikes. Israeli defense officials said they have also collected evidence that the underground facilities at Fordo were not destroyed....
 
Pyrite said:
Credible sources have been quoted. If you want to try to impeach the nytimes and npr, go for it.

AND Leavitt acknowledged the existence of the report.

Plus, there's this from the Israelis:


...Initial Israeli damage assessments have also raised questions of the effectiveness of the strikes. Israeli defense officials said they have also collected evidence that the underground facilities at Fordo were not destroyed....
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Well, duh.....Israel doesn't want to stop, but thankfully Trump it trying hard to get a peace deal.......I know it's the last thing the left wants, but most of us actually do.
 
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