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Those who want to drug test welfare recipients in Indiana suffered a setback on Friday.
The bill was withdrawn in the House after it was suggested that the pool of people to be drug tested should expand to include lawmakers themselves.
So here is the question we all want to know - What do the Indiana lawmakers have to hide? If drug testing is good enough for mothers and children who are receiving food stamps, then it is damn well good enough for lawmakers too.
Article is here.
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I don't understand. Why would the lawmakers have to be drug tested if they are NOT on welfare or taking foodstamps?
They are paid with tax dollars, yes?
Drug testing of welfare applicants in Florida - which has been mandatory since July - finds they're less likely than the public at large to use illegal drugs.
So here is the question we all want to know - What do the Indiana lawmakers have to hide? If drug testing is good enough for mothers and children who are receiving food stamps, then it is damn well good enough for lawmakers too.
Article is here.
Discussion?
Why, yes, as a matter of fact, I believe they are. They are public servants, and so are paid by the public they are supposed to be serving.
Of course, the employer has the right to insist on drug testing, and should.
As for drug testing of welfare recipients, that has been done, with some interesting results:
Anyone taking bets on whether drug testing the legislators would have the same result?
Anyone with advance notice can pass a piss test. It isn't hard.My best fried passes his piss tests all the time.All it takes is enough time to drive to a friend or relatives house and collect urine from a friend or relative who does not do drugs and keeping that urine warm and concealed. If they made these welfare recipients all go down the welfare office to collect their welfare and food stamps on a regular bases and randomly test them on the spot I guarantee the results would be a lot higher.
So here is the question we all want to know - What do the Indiana lawmakers have to hide? If drug testing is good enough for mothers and children who are receiving food stamps, then it is damn well good enough for lawmakers too.
Article is here.
Discussion?
They are paid with tax dollars, yes?
And drug testing for those that receive lower tax rates on capital gains...............wouldn't that put a scare into to all those hedge fund managers????
And drug testing for those that receive lower tax rates on capital gains...............wouldn't that put a scare into to all those hedge fund managers????
Anyone with advance notice can pass a piss test. It isn't hard.My best fried passes his piss tests all the time.All it takes is enough time to drive to a friend or relatives house and collect urine from a friend or relative who does not do drugs and keeping that urine warm and concealed. If they made these welfare recipients all go down the welfare office to collect their welfare and food stamps on a regular bases and randomly test them on the spot I guarantee the results would be a lot higher.
I fail to see the reason for the outrage over drug testing prior or during receiving welfare.
You aren't mandated to take welfare, so if you don't like the rules associated with it, don't accept it.
You aren't mandated to run for office either, so what's the problem with also drug testing politicians?
no one should be drug tested without a warrant, whether for work or welfare.
Indiana's legislative priorities have been embarrassing in recent years. cutting education, anti-labor, and anti-lower socioeconomic class policies; the list goes on. it's not difficult to guess which side is running the show. i'm still an independent, but i will admit that Republicans represent my own views less and less. currently, they are getting ready to ram through right to work legislation with no amendments and little debate. if they do that, i might stop considering the Republican party for a vote at any level until it changes.
Not word one about due process, 4th Amendment rights against unreasonable search & seizure, innocent until proven guilty, etc. And by many of the same people who decry the government doing anything that might be used against them without due process. We're all just a nation of big dumb hypocrites, aren't we?
And spare me the comparisons with other jobs. If it's a private employer, the same standards wouldn't necessarily apply in much the same way that freedom of speech as guaranteed in the 1st Amendment applies to government restrictions, not private enterprise restrictions. If the employees are government, that preemptive testing is wrong, too.
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