Navy Pride
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Who conducted a flawed survey. Meanwhile, you think we should ignore a very legit, professional survey that has opposite findings to your belief.
THey will never go back to those days, that is not realistic but they sure should keep DADT becasue it works..............
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Repealing DADT will only cause problems.THey will never go back to those days, that is not realistic but they sure should keep DADT becasue it works..............
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Repealing DADT will only cause problems.
Kelzie as John McCain and th sailors I talk to said the wrong questions were asked.............
Well you'll be happy to know I'm putting both you and McCain into the same category as the commandant in regards to who is qualified to offer an opinion on the matter.
What problems, keep your sexuality to yourself. Don't gay people want the government to "stay out of the bedroom? (which I agree with btw)." So keep your (meant in the general sense) bedroom out of our military.But it is broken, and DADT does cause problems.
WE just agree with him
In my 21 years in the Navy I have seen to many cases where gay men aboard ship after 90 days at sea maded unwanted sexual advances against their straight shipmates......I really don't honestly blame them...For them its like a kid in a candy store..I equate it to myself being on a ship with all beautiful women, dressing, sleeping, showering with them...........I doubt if I could control myself...........Its the same thing for gays no matter how much you deny it it happens......I have seen it...........
existing openly is against the law....................
In my 21 years in the Navy I have seen to many cases where gay men aboard ship after 90 days at sea maded unwanted sexual advances against their straight shipmates......I really don't honestly blame them...For them its like a kid in a candy store..I equate it to myself being on a ship with all beautiful women, dressing, sleeping, showering with them...........I doubt if I could control myself...........Its the same thing for gays no matter how much you deny it it happens......I have seen it...........
What problems, keep your sexuality to yourself. Don't gay people want the government to "stay out of the bedroom? (which I agree with btw)." So keep your (meant in the general sense) bedroom out of our military.
The point is, it shouldn't have happened at all.Good thing we can judge an entire group of of people by the actions of a few. :roll:
The point is, it shouldn't have happened at all.
When you sign a contract both partys have to live up to it not just the enlistee......The government if breaking their contract with the enlistee........
You know better than that NP. The military can break parts of the contract for many reasons. And, it is not actually in a person's contract that they won't have to work/live with gays.
But it's not true that LGBT soldiers cannot do those things you mention, Star. Isn't the "don't ask" part about not investigating possibly gay soldiers? The military won't look to out you so long as you don't out yourself.So you're okay with straight military members being able to take their partners to official military functions, while LGBT soldiers can't? You're okay with a soldier being discharged for dating a partner outside of military life? You're okay with someone not being able to start a family in fear of being discharged from the army? This isn't about not keeping a soldiers sexuality to themselves, it's about being able to live their lives without fear of being discharged. If you truly believed that the government should stay out of our bedrooms, then you would be against DADT, and all laws that distinguish LGBT Americans from heterosexual Americans. Because those laws are nothing but the government intruding into our bedrooms.
But it's not true that LGBT soldiers cannot do those things you mention, Star. Isn't the "don't ask" part about not investigating possibly gay soldiers? The military won't look to out you so long as you don't out yourself.
Why do I see inuendo in every post you make? :lol:
Interesting, so would gay service members claim harassment when someone in their barracks tell a gay or dirty joke? I hadn't even considered this possibility before.Sexual harrassment shouldn't happen period. I say we ban all straight men from the military, since they're the biggest offenders.
Interesting, so would gay service members claim harassment when someone in their barracks tell a gay or dirty joke? I hadn't even considered this possibility before.
After DADT was redefined and the ban on gays lifted, it would be a regulation against discrimination. Perhaps, apart of the modification of the regulation it could read, "to prevent discrimination...". Would that make you feel better? Or will you only be satisfied when a gay soldier can keep a great big bottle of gay pride pills in his footlocker?
But it's not true that LGBT soldiers cannot do those things you mention, Star. Isn't the "don't ask" part about not investigating possibly gay soldiers? The military won't look to out you so long as you don't out yourself.
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