Donald Trump's Losing Election Poll for First Time in Over a Month

[highroller]

Because that's what is demanded by Dear Leader of his starving population; coerced worship. He has people watching the audiences when he speaks, checking that everyone applauds acceptably. If not his goons will be having a quiet word with you, afterwards.

Donald Trump doesn’t want to be a dictator. He wants to be a god.

That’s how I read it.

 

[Ginger Ale]

Maybe that is the problem. You don't recall how her debate skills forced her out of the Dem primary.
Look it up.
She was finished after that.

All I remember is "I'm speaking" "I'm speaking" lol Pence looked like a scolded child.

 

[Ginger Ale]

I am also one who thinks we need a bit of time with polling before we can understand the Harris impact and any trends. So, in the meantime, I've been keeping an eye on the betting markets because they move immediately, rather than suffering from the lag we see with polling trends.

I'm seeing the betting markets maybe starting to settle and level a bit. The first chart shows the change from just today. The third chart will change a bit tomorrow when it updates to also include today's action seen in the first chart. Both of those are from one betting market only, PredictIt.

The middle chart shows all the betting markets RCP tracks, averaged. In that one, you can see a gradual downturn for Biden in June, even before the debate. Then a precipitous drop once the debate happened. Harris then starts to shoot up. But now, it all seems to be beginning to calm down to levels about like we had in June, pre-debate. If that happened, it wouldn't surprise me because I've long felt Biden and Harris might have similar election chances. Which is why I haven't really cared which one was the nominee. Obviously, we had the big debate chaos followed by the big nominee switch, but maybe now we're about to settle into a new norm, which may end up looking like the mid-June Trump/Biden situation. I'll keep watching to see if Harris has a little or a lot more room to grow or if we're starting to see a bit of a Harris ceiling already. Today's action would indicate she's at least hit some resistance in her dramatic climb of recent days.

By the way, I selected the 90 day view for both the 2nd and 3rd charts so we could view pre-debate Biden stuff, then all the chaos and changes, up until now.

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[Callen]

One more came out today since this post. CNN, Trump +3.

Yes , a slip of 3 from the last poll and that after the convention and with her only two days in. Also interesting shift in terms of Dems "coming home" .....young voters and Blacks.

 

[noonereal]

She's actually a skilled debater. I meant that's what prosecuting attorneys do for a living.

Her first debate was a brutal take-down of then leading candidate Joe Biden. It's really more a case of losing the post-debate more than the debate itself. Her campaign's printing out 'That little girl was me' tee shirts within hours of the debate made her seem inauthentic, and attacking a venerated good guy and party elder because of a position he took 50+ years ago made her look a little reptilian.

It was terrible to say and terribly delivered. Its why she had to drop out.

 

[reflechissez]

I am also one who thinks we need a bit of time with polling before we can understand the Harris impact and any trends. So, in the meantime, I've been keeping an eye on the betting markets because they move immediately, rather than suffering from the lag we see with polling trends.

I'm seeing the betting markets maybe starting to settle and level a bit. The first chart shows the change from just today. The third chart will change a bit tomorrow when it updates to also include today's action seen in the first chart. Both of those are from one betting market only, PredictIt.

The middle chart shows all the betting markets RCP tracks, averaged. In that one, you can see a gradual downturn for Biden in June, even before the debate. Then a precipitous drop once the debate happened. Harris then starts to shoot up. But now, it all seems to be beginning to calm down to levels about like we had in June, pre-debate. If that happened, it wouldn't surprise me because I've long felt Biden and Harris might have similar election chances. Which is why I haven't really cared which one was the nominee. Obviously, we had the big debate chaos followed by the big nominee switch, but maybe now we're about to settle into a new norm, which may end up looking like the mid-June Trump/Biden situation. I'll keep watching to see if Harris has a little or a lot more room to grow or if we're starting to see a bit of a Harris ceiling already. Today's action would indicate she's at least hit some resistance in her dramatic climb of recent days.

By the way, I selected the 90 day view for both the 2nd and 3rd charts so we could view pre-debate Biden stuff, then all the chaos and changes, up until now.

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Looking at those charts -- you have a problem.

Why do you think things will "calm down" to anything that happened before the debate? It is a totally new campaign.

 

[noonereal]

All I remember is "I'm speaking" "I'm speaking" lol Pence looked like a scolded child.

Why are you "speaking speaking" about the stature known as Pence?

 

[Uncensored2008]

All before Harris as i said.

Maybe before Biden was kicked to the curb from the top of the Ticket - but Harris was still very much in question.

The DNC media will spin like crazy of the next couple of weeks to try and create the illusion of viability for Harris. The reality is she is a California radical far to the left of Bernie Sanders who openly states there should be no Southern Border (goodbye Georgia), who vows to outlaw fracking, (buh bye Pennsylvania, North and South Dakota) who promotes free taxpayer funded medical care for illegals (adios Arizona and Nevada)

Here's what's going to happen.

Trump - 340 EC votes.
Harris - 198 EC votes.

Then the democrats will again take to the streets to rape, loot, burn, and murder. But the media won't call it insurrection, they'll cover it up - just like in 2016.

 

[multivita-man]

It was terrible to say and terribly delivered. Its why she had to drop out.

She actually went ahead in the polls briefly in the days that followed; however, I think her campaign floundered after that. Tulsi Gabbard brought up her record as a tough prosecutor in the second round of debates and she Harris appeared to be caught off guard, and it also came at a time when progressives were really feeling anti-cop and anti-prosecutor.

It's a different set of dynamics now. Defund the police is no longer a popular slogan and people in the Democratic party are (mostly) going to fall in line because they realize what's at stake if Trump wins.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Trump's style requires no facts nor competence.

And your's does?

You're supporting a woman that has been so incompetent as "border czar" that we now have the largest slave trade in history traveling across the border she did nothing to secure.

You're in no position to speak of competence - NO leftist is.

 

[Callen]

ou're supporting a woman that has been so incompetent as "border czar" that we now have the largest slave trade in history traveling across the border she did nothing to secure.

Was never her job...you got played yet again.

 

[noonereal]

Maybe before Biden was kicked to the curb from the top of the Ticket - but Harris was still very much in question.

The DNC media will spin like crazy of the next couple of weeks to try and create the illusion of viability for Harris. The reality is she is a California radical far to the left of Bernie Sanders who openly states there should be no Southern Border (goodbye Georgia), who vows to outlaw fracking, (buh bye Pennsylvania, North and South Dakota) who promotes free taxpayer funded medical care for illegals (adios Arizona and Nevada)

Here's what's going to happen.

Trump - 340 EC votes.
Harris - 198 EC votes.

Then the democrats will again take to the streets to rape, loot, burn, and murder. But the media won't call it insurrection, they'll cover it up - just like in 2016.

Wow!

Lay off the MAGA Media.

That stuff makes your brain rot.

 

[noonereal]

And your's does?

You're supporting a woman that has been so incompetent as "border czar" that we now have the largest slave trade in history traveling across the border she did nothing to secure.

You're in no position to speak of competence - NO leftist is.

Lay off the Fox. That stuff rots the brain.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Wow!

Lay off the MAGA Media.

That stuff makes your brain rot.

Great retort as always, Comrade.

I can count on you for well documented debate... /Sarcasm

 

[Uncensored2008]

Lay off the Fox. That stuff rots the brain.

Once again you show your intellectual chops. Beam with pride, Comrade.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Was never her job...you got played yet again.

Got it, so this is a DIFFERENT Kamala Harris.

Biden taps VP Harris to lead response to border challenges

President Joe Biden has tapped Vice President Kamala Harris to lead the White House effort to tackle the migration challenge at the U.S. southern border.

apnews.com

The Communists are so absurd - no doubt ALL of the Little Goebbels will be flat out lying now - despite YEARS of evidence.

But for a democrat, there is no yesterday, only a perpetual "now" that serves the goals of the party.

 

[noonereal]

Great retort as always, Comrade.

I can count on you for well documented debate... /Sarcasm

Debate is not possible with the Children of Trump. They , like dear leader, use alternate facts and lies.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Debate is not possible with the Children of Trump. They , like dear leader, use alternate facts and lies.

Debate is not possible with the Marxist left.

You have no interest in debate, facts, or anything that contradicts the dogma of your party.

 

[noonereal]

The Communists are so absurd - no doubt ALL of the Little Goebbels will be flat out lying now - despite YEARS of evidence.

Rotflmao!

The Nazi's fought the Russians during WW2. Goebbels was a Nazi. Russia was the Communist country.

Such a typical cult post. No clue of history or what words mean.

Every that is said of the cult you just proved true.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Rotflmao!

The Nazi's fought the Russians during WW2. Goebbels was a Nazi. Russia was the Communist country.

Such a typical cult post. No clue of history, what words mean or history.

Every that is said of the cult you just proved true.

Yawn.

More mindless ad hom.

 

[noonereal]

Debate is not possible with the Marxist left.

You have no interest in debate, facts, or anything that contradicts the dogma of your party.

It is the cult that invented alternate facts.
Are you unaware of this too?

Lol

 

[noonereal]

Yawn.

More mindless ad hom.

Rotflmao

Honest. Stop posting. Your posts are moronic. Honest.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Rotflmao

Honest. Stop posting. Your posts are moronic. Honest.

Those who lack the education and intellect to follow along are free to not read them.

Mainly you're angry that anyone would oppose your party.

 

[Captain America]

Watching a Trump debate is much like watching an episode of Jerry Springer.

I find it curious as to how many people that actually influences.

Government supposed to be serious business handled by qualified adults. Not entertainment.

Trump seems more interested in crowd size than policy. He acts like an impetulant, juvenile, silver-spooned, spoiled rotten child. That may be just fine for some Americans but on the international stage, he makes us all look like idiots.

 

[noonereal]

Those who lack the education and intellect to follow along are free to not read them.

Mainly you're angry that anyone would oppose your party.

My party is the GOP since Ford.

Buy i am rational and fact driven.
Very different from your posts.