Donald Trump Says His Name May Have Been Planted in Jeffrey Epstein Files

[Callen]

ok there ya go - I agree, its your opinion and I think we can agree its also the opinion only of all the Liberal Media hate outlets too

we've seen this over and over and over for 8 years - when something is thrown and it doesn't stick they pick something else and throw. ..... over and over

Poor Trump, the perennial victim........

 

[jaypatriot]

some women yes - and its very very common to see wealthy/famous men with flocks of women around them



ok there ya go - I agree, its your opinion and I think we can agree its also the opinion only of all the Liberal Media hate outlets too

we've seen this over and over and over for 8 years - when something is thrown and it doesn't stick they pick something else and throw. ..... over and over

Anti-Trumpers have to try whatever they can to get some traction to damage Trump before he scores another legislative or foreign affairs victory.
I predict the vast majority of comments coming from the Left are all going to attacks on Trump personally because they believe that is the only way hurt Trump going into next year. The more they can convince gullible Americans Trump was frequently on Epstein's plane the more those same people will believe he is a pedophile.
The Dems have no prescriptive solutions to any issue facing America so attacking the head of the government is the only strategy they have right now.
Sure glad I never thought of being a Democrat or Progressive or a Liberal having no particular goal right now other than attacking the duly elected president of this country.

 

[hecatmoggie]

Poor Trump, the perennial victim........

he is the target of 8 years of political attacks yes

he also instigates , no doubt

 

[gbg3]

Everything other than the actual testimony is under the control of the DOJ. They absolutely can release it if they wanted to.

I believe they didn't release them for the same reason Bondi now realizes she can't. It is inappropriate, unethical and likely illegal to release investigative material on individuals who were, for whatever reason, not charged with any crimes.

Both views from only one single comment of yours, lol!!! This has become common from the left - completely flipping back and forth between wanting and then not wanting info (like Maxwell's info) - and wondering why they don't release everything while knowing exactly why the shouldn't, can't or won't release everything. I've seen this manic flipping back and forth, but I think this is the first time I've seen it happen right within one single comment.

"Everything other than the actual testimony is under the control of the DOJ. They absolutely can release it if they wanted to." followed by "the same reason Bondi now realizes she can't. It is inappropriate, unethical and likely illegal".

 

[Captain America]

The cult will buy it.

Indeed they will.

 

[Callen]

Both views from only one single comment of yours, lol!!! This has become common from the left -

"Everything other than the actual testimony is under the control of the DOJ. " followed by "the same reason Bondi now realizes she can't. It is inappropriate, unethical and likely illegal".

No idea what you are on about this time but you sure work hard at reading things into my words that aren't there or perhaps deliberately misrepresenting them. Two things can be possible at the same time.

The DOJ absolutely can release it if they wanted to.....fact.

Bondi realizes that doing so could be very real problem for her, ethically as well as legally......opinion. Doesn't change the fact she could if she wanted to , nothing stops her.

Both views from only one single comment of yours, lol!!! This has become common from the left - completely flipping back and forth between wanting and then not wanting info (like Maxwell's info) - and wondering why they don't release everything while knowing exactly why the shouldn't, can't or won't release everything. I've seen this manic flipping back and forth, but I think this is the first time I've seen it happen right within one single comment.

You are dead wrong on this I have been very consistent in my views on releasing the files. They should NOT release them. I think there was one post where I said something to the effect that Trump deserved to have them released but it has always been my view that releasing them to the public would be inappropriate and serve no good public purpose. As for Maxwell I have consistently said her testimony is worthless given her previous perjuries and the fact it is self serving and untrustworthy.

 

[uptower]

I've never heard of the top 2, Haitians do eat cats (not so much dogs) and you can't get an abortion after birth ....

"Buht dem dar Hayshuns does eat cats..."

Woosh!

Trump supporters happily buy every line he sells them, every new distraction. They'll believe that his name was planted as well if he tells them. All they need is his word.

 

[hecatmoggie]

"Buht dem dar Hayshuns does eat cats..."

Woosh!

Trump supporters happily buy every line he sells them, every new distraction. They'll believe that his name was planted as well if he tells them. All they need is his word.

I know someone who lived in Haiti a long time and knows Haitian culture

nothing more, nothing less

 

[gbg3]

If they can't charge they can't release the info without facing huge lawsuits. It may even be criminal to do so.

Just release the files if there is no there there.

The DOJ has all the info, all they have to do is release it.

You are dead wrong on this I have been very consistent in my views on releasing the files.

Yes, of course, even in this very small sampling (and there are SO many more examples) - you've been very consistent. Back and forth and back and forth and back and forth.

 

[uptower]

I know someone who lived in Haiti a long time and knows Haitian culture

nothing more, nothing less

Thank you for that valuable piece of insight. Are these Hatians - or their cats - in the room with us now?

 

[Callen]

Yes, of course, even in this very small sampling (and there are SO many more examples) - you've been very consistent. Back and forth and back and forth and back and forth.

None of that is contradictory. My view has been and still is that they SHOULD NOT release the files. However, that doesn't mean they CAN'T.

Also it is disingenuous and dishonest to truncate my posts and to represent my questions and responses to other posters as me being contradictory on my position. Here are the full posts and I encourage other who give a damn about this crap , which I'm certain are few, to click on the quote to get the full context.

My post was the following. You chose to cut the small bolded clip to suggest I was somehow I was supportive of the release. I was simply saying if he wanted to be transparent he could be.

OK......Trump is very worried. These are not the actions of a man who wants to be transparent. Just release the files if there is no there there. Even Trumpers must be getting that " Oh Oh" feeling.

.......and this which was in response to someone who was saying the DOJ was being prevented from releasing the info by the courts. Again truncated and taken out of context. Agian you chose to only quote the bolded words

So what ? GJ testimony is private and confidential for a reason .The DOJ has all the info, all they have to do is release it.

Absolutely agree. If they can't charge they can't release the info without facing huge lawsuits. It may even be criminal to do so. Bondi opened her big fat mouth and then realized the information was not releasable so enter Maxwell stage left.........

Again you chose a small clip out of context and deceptive on your part.

 

[uptower]

 

[hecatmoggie]

Thank you for that valuable piece of insight. Are these Hatians - or their cats - in the room with us now?

impossible to know - millions and millions flooded across in the previous Biden administration years ... we simply have no idea how many or who they are

so yes, its very possible many Haitians he knew are here

the cats have long been digested

 

[uptower]

impossible to know - millions and millions flooded across in the previous Biden administration years ... we simply have no idea how many or who they are

so yes, its very possible many Haitians he knew are here

the cats have long been digested

I admire your persistence. But when Trump is lying we sell know.

There is zero chance his name was "planted" in the files.

 

[hecatmoggie]

I admire your persistence. But when Trump is lying we sell know.

There is zero chance his name was "planted" in the files.

was there zero chance that Democrats created the Russia/Trump story in 2016?

yes - Democrats did anything and everything they could to get Trump out of running for POTUS and once in, they did everything to get him out then for 4 years did everything they could to stop him from running again

you have to acknowledge they're capable of doing that

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Poor Trump, the perennial victim........

And just like that, the dogs and cats of Springfield, Ohio, were no longer considered food and were never talked about again.

 

[Variant]

It's a tough one. I believe that horrible men did horrible things. However, I also believe a civilized society cannot allow the prosecution of those people to happen in the court of public opinion. A special prosecutor would be the answer but there is no way this Administration would appoint a true and unbiased arbitror of the facts. Its a mess

I am talking about trying them in court court.

I also understand the reality of prosecuting powerful people with the underclass as their victims and accusers.

Feckless prosecutors often take a pass on hard cases like that that they may lose.

 

[Callen]

I am talking about trying them in court court.

I also understand the reality of prosecuting powerful people with the underclass as their victims and accusers.

Feckless prosecutors often take a pass on hard cases like that that they may lose.

No argument from me. I believe powerful men did horrible things and they will never be held accountable.

 

[uptower]

was there zero chance that Democrats created the Russia/Trump story in 2016?

yes - Democrats did anything and everything they could to get Trump out of running for POTUS and once in, they did everything to get him out then for 4 years did everything they could to stop him from running again

you have to acknowledge they're capable of doing that

**** yeah there's zero chance. Nobody 'created' the story. Intel knew Russian agitprop was playing for Trump at the time. The Trump campaign had enough contact with foreign agents to warrant an investigation. As always, he brought it on himself.

As for doing "everything they could" to stop him running again, not nearly. They barely did anything. The piss**** should be in jail for election fraud.

 

[hecatmoggie]

**** yeah there's zero chance. Nobody 'created' the story. Intel knew Russian agitprop was playing for Trump at the time. The Trump campaign had enough contact with foreign agents to warrant an investigation. As always, he brought it on himself.

As for doing "everything they could" to stop him running again, not nearly. They barely did anything. The piss**** should be in jail for election fraud.

so everything that's come out is all manufactured/lies from the Trump administration is what you're saying ? A Fed Govt/Political party can go to that lengths is what you're saying ?

 

[gbg3]

Also it is disingenuous and dishonest to truncate my posts and to represent my questions and responses to other posters as me being contradictory on my position. Here are the full posts and I encourage other who give a damn about this crap , which I'm certain are few, to click on the quote to get the full context.

My post was the following. You chose to cut the small bolded clip to suggest I was somehow I was supportive of the release. I was simply saying if he wanted to be transparent he could be.

In the 3 examples you provided where I took a section out of your quote - I completely disagree that the rest of your comment in any of those three cases changed or altered the clearly worded sections I took out - those being the sections which directly applied to the discussion we are having here. Your opinion that Bondi has a"big fat mouth" has nothing to do with you going back and forth in a noticeable and dramatic fashion (over and over).

"I was simply saying if he wanted to be transparent he could be." BS, that's not even close to what you've (consistently) been saying - beyond half the time. You've frequently been saying it's likely illegal, unethical and more. You've even said you think Bondi has now realized that.

The lawsuits would fly from so many directions if they released those files and hadn't first spent literally years going through that massive amount of information looking for every single thing they could be sued for if it was mistakenly missed and/or inadvertently released.

 

[uptower]

so everything that's come out is all manufactured/lies from the Trump administration is what you're saying ? A Fed Govt/Political party can go to that lengths is what you're saying ?

I think your understanding of the facts is either poor or deliberately mischaracterizing.

The DOJ had an obligation to watch any potential foreign interference in 2016. The intel services had a duty to report anything to the president. This is not a grand conspiracy to "go after Trump" no matter how much it chaps your ass.

Likewise the crimes Trump committed during his first term (and campaign) precipitated investigations and impeachment efforts. He objectively committed campaign finance violations and election fraud, regardless whether you think he deserved a mulligan. Again no conspiracy - he brought it on himself.

It is my humble opinion these crimes were not prosecuted aggressively enough,