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Just to point out - those were hippies, not people.
And, while this may be "iconic" or something, from a position of someone who hasn't seen it before, that photo looks rather staged. Everyone is just standing around, looking kinda "whatever" with the one female kneeling dramatically in the "Why God Why" pose. No blood around the victim, nor obvious exit wounds anywhere in the torso, head, or legs.
:shrug: no one claimed so. I stated that this "dramatic picture" appears off.
Maybe this is the return after running away? Where you find your friend dead on the ground?
One Guy is running up.
Exactly.
Yet, his supporters keep eating up the BS that flows from his lips, sort of like mushrooms.
Here's yet another Trump statement illustrated:
The rights of the child. This is why this debate comes down to whether or not you consider an unborn human child to be... well, a human child, or not. If it is a child, then it possesses inalienable human rights, meaning that it cannot have it's life taken from it except in the most extreme of circumstances. If it isn't a human child, then we have more freedom to kill it (as we would an animal) without consequence.
As someone old enough to remember Kent State and the shooting there, I'd like to point out that the incident was quite real, and that the "hippies" were on the right side of the war protests.
But, by all means, let's elect Trump and bring the late '60s back in all their glory.
I don't see anyone running, certainly not running away. Everyone in the kill zone is just kinda standing there, while the people in the background have defilade.
If this is well after the shooting, and so there is no perceived danger, people are just milling about, etc., then I have to ask how someone can be shot in the vitals, in the head, or in critical arteries enough to drop them in their tracks, but not enough to cause them to bleed.
And again - I'm not saying it's a fake. I'm just saying it sorta looks like it is.
Which unfortunately comes down to cosmology, what our imaginary friends want.
As a person who believes in infinite potential lives for each soul, a position as supportable as yours, abortion isn't a big deal. They can come back somewhere else.
The hippies were on the side of the North Vietnamese, who upon rolling through South Vietnam, instituted a mass-murder and "reeducation" program that included systematic ethnic cleansing of tribes that had worked with Americans. They were absolutely not on the right side of that conflict.
The Hippies were against the war, not pro-North Vietnam. They just didn't want America to continue to be involved in a unnecessary war than killed tons of people.The hippies were on the side of the North Vietnamese, who upon rolling through South Vietnam, instituted a mass-murder and "reeducation" program that included systematic ethnic cleansing of tribes that had worked with Americans. They were absolutely not on the right side of that conflict.
Maybe they just caved his skull in without breaking the skin.
And maybe he's just unconscious.
The hippies were on the side of the North Vietnamese, who upon rolling through South Vietnam, instituted a mass-murder and "reeducation" program that included systematic ethnic cleansing of tribes that had worked with Americans. They were absolutely not on the right side of that conflict.
.....no. It can be informed by ones' religious faith (mine is), but the declaration that independent human life is independent human life is fairly straightforward.
This is why Hillary's statement is pissing off the abortion lobby. She gave the unborn child personhood, instead of describing that unborn child as a thing.
In that case, no murder, mass or otherwise, is all that big of a deal. The souls of the Kent State students can just swing around some other time.
The Hippies were against the war, not pro-North Vietnam.
You seem to be confusing the picture in the post with the event. No one is claiming Kent State didnt' happen. I'm pointing out that the picture itself looks off, and appears staged. Unarmed civilians and students who are getting shot at don't stand around looking normal. They run, screaming. Someone who has been shot up tends to bleed. :shrug: that's all.
This was done with a telephoto lens, which makes the trees seem closer than they really are.
Bullets do not cave in skulls without lots of blood. The human head is quite the bleeder.
That's possible, I suppose. Tripped, fell, knocked out while running. If his vitals have been proven then it would make sense of everyone else just standing around - but its kind of a jerk move to leave him on his face like that.
Rather reduces the drama of the picture. "And here we see Johnny Jones, who fell and bumped his head at Kent State".
As someone old enough to remember Kent State and the shooting there, I'd like to point out that the incident was quite real, and that the "hippies" were on the right side of the war protests.
But, by all means, let's elect Trump and bring the late '60s back in all their glory.
Exactly. There may be some negative Karmic accumulation on some level, but ultimately inconsequential.
And an unborn child isn't an "independent" human life. It is utterly dependent.
And our military kills wanted children all the time. "Unintentionally" but still knowingly. They pay for the sins of their fathers. Don't see a big difference between that and abortion in the grand scheme of things.
Bullets do not cave in skulls without lots of blood. The human head is quite the bleeder.
That's possible, I suppose. Tripped, fell, knocked out while running. If his vitals have been proven then it would make sense of everyone else just standing around - but its kind of a jerk move to leave him on his face like that.
Rather reduces the drama of the picture. "And here we see Johnny Jones, who fell and bumped his head at Kent State".
The hippies were against the US taking sides in a civil war half a world away. They were against a war started on false information. The hippies were right. We needed more hippies in '03 to counter the PNAC and their rush to yet another war. If we elect Trump, we just might need the hippies yet again.
Believing that sort of total hogwash is what is likely to open the door for yet another Kent State.
Those who fail to understand history are doomed to repeat it.
And electing Trump is the best way to see to it that history does repeat itself. He said so himself, "protesters carried out on a stretcher" is exactly what happened on that sad, sad day that must never be forgotten.
Believing that sort of total hogwash is what is likely to open the door for yet another Kent State. Those who fail to understand history are doomed to repeat it.
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So if I pick up and rape and murder a 7 year old girl on my way home from work today :shrug: no biggie. It's all cosmic.
My, what a worthwhile philosophy you have there. :roll: Somehow I suspect you would abandon it approximately half a second after it became obvious that you were going to be the victim.
It is indeed an independent human life. It exists as such separately from whether or not it could survive without other humans (in all likelihood, you would fail that test as well).
Their fathers are the ones who kill them, by militarizing civilian positions.
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