The war in Iraq was waged to secure oil and global economic assets. The data was misrepresented to get public support, it was never the actual reason for going to war.
Will, this statement is ludicrous. While I agree there was cherry picking going on, it wasn't from the bible. The only people who will view this issue as giving the invasion of Iraq an appearance of a holy war are people who already view it as a holy war.
I have to go with Jerry on this one in a round about way. The war in Iraq was about establishing a U.S. sphere of influence in a resource rich geographic area of the middle east. Or as it was put in the PNAC, "Secure and expand zones of democratic peace." Bush had Iraq on the brain, and in the days after Sept. 11th he saw an opportunity to justify a strategy his closest advisers had been working on for years.
Unfortunately, that misrepresentation had the adverse effect.
Paul
If that's the case, then your point makes no sense.That was my point.
I know what the war was fought about, the point here is how Cheney and Rumsfeld manipulated Bush by controlling what he THOUGHT the war was about. It demonstrates what critics have said all along, that Bush was a puppet president, incapable of carrying out the responsibilities of his position.
Dude -- dont hold your breath. I've been waiting of WEEKS for him to back up a claim he made; thus far he hasnt even bothered to put up a single post to that effect.I am trying really hard to understand what you are basing this information on. I would like to see some proof that Bush was manipulated?
I am trying really hard to understand what you are basing this information on. I would like to see some proof that Bush was manipulated?
I have no idea how you figure some inconsequential biblical text on a briefing has anything to do with being manipulated. This was not some kind of Crusade to wipe out Islam or recapture the holy land.
Dude -- dont hold your breath. I've been waiting of WEEKS for him to back up a claim he made; thus far he hasnt even bothered to put up a single post to that effect.
You mean your complete lack of any ability to actually defend your argument, don't you? Becauise that's all anyone here has ever seen from you.Your complete lack of civility and incessant hostility is the reason I don't respond to you. Consider this a response.
How would there be "proof" that Bush was manipulated?
Seems to me that this is up to -you- to determine and then illustrate, as -you- made the claim.How would there be "proof" that Bush was manipulated?
Bush maintained that this was never a war on Islam, and Obama maintains the same thing. But pictures annotated with biblical text are going to give America a black eye because it gives an appearance that it was otherwise.
I believe not so much that Bush lied, but that he was betrayed by those he trusted.
Article is here.
Mountain out of a mole hill.
Clinton had other doodles on his papers.
Uncovered a couple years ago; revealing his priorities:
PresidentialDoodles.com
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First of all, Donald Rumsfeld was against water boarding. Just so you all know.
Once the government of the United States decided to invade Iraq it was the president's job to sell it to the people.
It wasn't his job to say things like, "well, Frank over at CIA says that Saddam doesn't have any WMDs but Charley and Pete and Liz say it's a slam dunk that he has them. I'm not sure who to believe. I'm so apprehensive."
I think a lot of people live far far away from the real world.
Bush maintained that this was never a war on Islam, and Obama maintains the same thing. But pictures annotated with biblical text are going to give America a black eye because it gives an appearance that it was otherwise.
I believe not so much that Bush lied, but that he was betrayed by those he trusted.
Article is here.
Source?
He's actually right on this one. Well, at least he appears to be.
Rumsfeld Rejected Waterboarding - The Philadelphia Bulletin Archives
I don't vouch for that site, but it does appear that Rummy did not approve the category of interrogation techniques that water boarding fell into.
Rumsfeld Rejected Waterboarding - The Philadelphia Bulletin ArchivesSource?
That's just not the way it works. Never has worked that way. The people have to be behind the effort or it won't work. The president can't come off all wobbly and weak when we're about to attack another country. He didn't tell us anything that he himself wasn't told. There was six months of diplomacy once he had permission to invade.Of all the things the president should not "sell", war would top the list to my mind.
That's just not the way it works. Never has worked that way. The people have to be behind the effort or it won't work. The president can't come off all wobbly and weak when we're about to attack another country. He didn't tell us anything that he himself wasn't told. There was six months of diplomacy once he had permission to invade.
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