Over here we've had a recent incident where a dog escaped its yard, broke into the neighbours house and killed a 4 year old. Under current laws all the dog owner receives is a fine, and there's a debate over whether the owner should receive jail time or not. So what do you think, should there be a charge of negligent homicide or something like that for owners who allow their dogs to escape and cause death?
Pitt bulls are not inherently vicious. Most of them are friendly and sweet and very easygoing towards humans.... unless they've been taught to be otherwise. There are rare exceptions though... I had a half-Pitt that was a one-family-dog, he loved me and loved my son, and wanted to eat the rest of the world. I have no idea why he was like that, it wasn't my doing. Most of them, though, are good dogs. They were deliberately bred for aggression towards other dogs, and NOT towards humans, normally.
The real problem with Pitts is that a bad Pitt is like a cross between a wolf and a crocodile. They're very strong and have incredibly powerful jaws, and when they're stirred up they tend to attack with great determination. I was on the receiving end of a Pitt attack once, and I ended up having to kill the dog to stop him. I didn't want to, I love dogs, but he wouldn't stop trying to tear my throat out.
To know whether the owner deserves jail time, I'd have to know a few things;
1. Did he deliberately train the dog to be vicious?
2. What precautions did he take to try to keep the dog contained?
3. Were there any previous incidents where the dog had gotten loose and menaced or hurt someone?
If the answers are Yes, Very Little, and Yes....then I'd say that is enough negligence that he needs to do some time.
According to one report, the dog first threatened relatives standing in the driveway, and when they panicked and ran inside, the dog chased after them.
Pitbull owners stood back from attack on Ayen Chol, claim family | News.com.au
According to another, the homeowner was walking someone to the door. "The tragedy unfolded when a cousin, who owns the house, was walking a family friend to the door and the dog confronted them.
As they tried to run indoors, the pit bull attacked before setting upon the children who were watching television."
Ayen Chol, 4, killed in pit bull cross attack at St Albans | Herald Sun
I don't understand how people were walking to the door and trying to run back inside.
Would the parents be partially responsible if they left the door open on their property and the child wandered away?
What if a wild animal got inside?
I completely disagree. The configuration of a pitt makes it almost uniquely capable of deathly injury to a human, especially a child. This is not a breed I'd even consider owning, but if you do, IMO, it's on YOU to ENSURE no one gets injured or killed.
I would be hard pressed to say jail time. The dog, of course, needs to be put down and punishment does need to be handed out. But if it was a pure accident, then I wouldn't put someone in jail for that.
"Three of us were trying to revive the kid. We were trying to find a heart beat. There were a couple of beats initially but she was gone after that."
He said the owner of the dog had raced to the victim's home and dragged the animal home, before returning to the scene.
He said the dog's owner was "devastated" after the attack. The animal was later removed from the premises and was put down this afternoon.
Other neighbours said they had often heard the pit bull cross barking in the street, but few had seen the animal.
Anisah Mama, who lives next door to the house where the dog lives, said she had been scared in the past for her two children, aged nine and 13.
She had not seen the dog in the three years her family had been living in the home, but said they often heard barking. "Actually this dog is quite aggressive," she said.
"While the children play they hear the dog barking and they are scared sometimes. I said 'don't worry, he's inside'."
You constantly re-interpret the things I post or make assumptions about what I believe and then use them in the debate as if I actually said, thought, or expressed those things.
That is poor debating.
I'm not dishonest just because you cannot comprehend that what I say is what I mean. I don't hide hidden meanings or speak in bull**** terms to get a point across.
If you would debate honestly and take what people say at face value instead of over-reacting and putting forth wild mis-representations of what people say there wouldn't be an issue at all.So maybe next time instead of flying off the handle and going after what people didn't say you could try asking for clarification or addressing what they did say.
The bolded is exactly why you can't have a genuine debate. You don't get it, so you just assume that the other person is illogical, mocking, or presenting an invalid argument. Disagreement does not a strawman make.
She had not seen the dog in the three years her family had been living in the home, but said they often heard barking. "Actually this dog is quite aggressive," she said.
As I have said, taking your faulty reasoning to its final conclusion is hardly a "misrepresentation."
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20-30 fatalities (assuming that they were correctly identified as pits) a year in this country for 4.5 million known registered pitbull type breeds means that the animal is very safe. Percentage wise that is 0.0006666666666666666 according to this . If a dog is vicious it is because the owner made it that way not because of some stereotypes or wives tales people believe about some breeds.
Can you find the pitbull?
Pet Pitbull - Find the Pit Bull
How many Pit Bulls and Rottweilers are in America? - Yahoo! Answers
Give it up...I cannot be persuaded. I don't think pitts are suitable for pet ownership but if a person is foolish enough to do so, the owe a duty to the humans around them to make SURE that animal never injures anyone.
There are breeds of dogs and hybrids I would outlaw altogether -- pitts are one.
I voted for jail time. I'm no fan of the pit bull, and IMO, if people insist on owning one, they need to be strictly liable for keeping it under control.
That poor family; they had just lost their home a month before in a fire, or none of them would have been there.
who knows, the neighbors could've been taunting the dog for months and when it got the chance it took revenge. many years ago, we had a dog that was on a chain in our yard. one of the nighborhood brats liked to ride his bike by the yard and throw rocks at our dog. one day, he got a little too close and SURPRISE, SURPRISE our dog knocked him off his bike. Had my father not been outside, the dog probably would've chewed the kid up.
point being... there are too many unknowns in this story to knee-jerk squeal "throw the owner in jail".
Give it up...I cannot be persuaded. I don't think pitts are suitable for pet ownership but if a person is foolish enough to do so, the owe a duty to the humans around them to make SURE that animal never injures anyone.
There are breeds of dogs and hybrids I would outlaw altogether -- pitts are one.
Spoken like someone with no exposure to pitties.
There's a picture at the link of the fence around the property. It's not very high.
And some breeds, while not particularly aggressive towards humans (and pit bulls are generally very freindly to humans) are known to have a high prey drive (ie hunting instinct). When allowed to roam free, they can become over-excited and end up attacking humans. My dog is half Chow-Chow and they're known to have a strong prey drive. She is never off-leash except in a well-secured area
No dog should be allowed to roam free or left unattended in a place where they can escape.
PS - chain link fences aren't good enough. Some dogs can actually climb up a chain link fence. I once saw a Cocker Spaniel climb 5 feet up a tree.
I completely disagree. The configuration of a pitt makes it almost uniquely capable of deathly injury to a human, especially a child. This is not a breed I'd even consider owning, but if you do, IMO, it's on YOU to ENSURE no one gets injured or killed.
What if the owner was purposely neglectful in securing the dog and was responsible for the dog being vicious?
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