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Does Trump have any good qualities?

Your go-to quality of Trump is that he trolls the left?

That explains a lot.

I'm not surprised that "quality" is in the lead. What else is there? Oh, I see someone did refer to his alleged honesty. I'm a little surprised there wasn't more of that. I think a year ago that would have been in the lead so it's nice to see fewer people attempting to make that claim with a seemingly straight face.
 
Unfortunately, I think this is actually the truth for a lot of his supporters....which is only made worse by the fact that they don't understand how dangerous that attitude is.

What is wrong with driving the likes of H Clinton crazy? She deserved to loe the moment she called ordinary American, concerned about their country and their chance of making a living 'deplorables'. Thi one word serves to describe the mind-set of the elite who hold the common people in contempt.
 
What is wrong with driving the likes of H Clinton crazy? She deserved to loe the moment she called ordinary American, concerned about their country and their chance of making a living 'deplorables'. Thi one word serves to describe the mind-set of the elite who hold the common people in contempt.

Adults understand that running the country is more important than flipping the bird. :shrug: Lemme know when you get there.
 
I'm not surprised that "quality" is in the lead. What else is there? Oh, I see someone did refer to his alleged honesty. I'm a little surprised there wasn't more of that. I think a year ago that would have been in the lead so it's nice to see fewer people attempting to make that claim with a seemingly straight face.

At the end of the day they have been conditioned to hate liberals/Democrats, and anyone that gives them hell, they love.

We have seen NO evidence that any negative character trait was sufficient for them not to support Trump.
We have seen NO evidence that being unable to advance any real Republican agenda (for which there isn't any), has turned them off either.

Indeed, what else is there that drives that blind loyalty?

You can see it indirectly, where they claim they are the real victims...victims of the PC police. Victims of people who tell them they are racists. People who ridicule their inability to make a lick of sense. For being ignorant on nearly every topic that they preach about. For denying science. For denying facts. For living hundreds of miles from any border, but being so mad at immigrants. Etc.

They are mad at being ostracized from the modern world that is leaving them behind, and Trump is a cudgel to hit back. Not too long ago, these types were willing to kill other Americans in an effort to keep human slaves. I mean, maybe this is progress.
 
Does Trump have any good qualities?


I know some will say he does. Go ahead. List a few. Make me laugh.

Trump is an very easy man to dislike. His obnoxious, uncouth personality along with his very unpresidential behavior has a majority of Americans disliking. Question 78. Trump Likability: Regardless of whether you agree with him, do you like or dislike Donald Trump as a person? Democrats 7% like him as a person, 81% dislike Trump as a person. Independents, the non-affiliated and much less partisan group: 26% like Trump as a person, 46% do not. However among Republicans 68% like him as a person, 15% do not. This is a very partisan breakdown in Democrats vs. Republicans.

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/1xbksrgzje/econTabReport.pdf

However the minus 20 points among independents between like and dislike leads me to believe Trump won't come close to the 46% of the independent vote he received in 2016 if he runs for reelection in 2020. Hillary received 42% with 12% voting third party against both major party candidates. This assumption, prediction if you will shows up in the number of independents who are against Trump running for reelection. Question 85. Run for Reelection: Do you want Donald Trump to run for re-election in 2020? Independents answer 29% yes, 52% no. Trump just isn't likable unless you're an avid Trumper. History has shown voters tend not to vote for someone they dislike. That is unless they dislike the other candidate more which was the case in 2016 between Trump and Hillary Clinton.

Strange as it may seem, policy wise, independents are for some of Trump's policies, against some. fairly split. Yet they really dislike the man. It boils down to Trump's very distasteful personality, his disgusting persona he presents.

I can't put my finger on any what I would classify good qualities about Trump. However I will say I have supported some of his policies, opposed some. It isn't so much Trump's policies that leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. It is Trump, the man, himself. If Trump had the personality of a Ronald Reagan, acted presidential like all the presidents before him instead of a Persona of a WWE wrestler, I might be championing him.

As is, I could never support or vote for a president that throws temper tantrums via twitter, creates needless feuds, calls others names like a four year old child whose parents never taught him any manners.
 
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Not any of special note, yet he managed to win the 2016 POTUS general election over Hillary. Ponder that.

Not without the help of his buddy (or overlord?) Vladimir Putin.
 
Not interested in word games If you're good at something - that's a good quality.

So, if one is good at killing people, like for example a serial killer, that's a good quality?

I think perhaps you have the wrong idea about the difference between good and bad.
 
He has created a new mental illness: “Trump Derangemet Syndrome”.

I guanantee you that a TDS roll call thread like this will have people making up the nuttiest stuff.

Creating a new mental illness is a good quality?

Sheesh, no wonder you Trumptards keep making excuses for him. You have no grasp of common decency (something Trump has never had) or the difference between right and wrong. Really pathetic, IMO.
 
That is certainly possible, yet after two years of rather intense digging by several federal agencies we still seem to lack sufficient grounds for impeachment.

Wait.
 
So far they haven't come up with enough evidence for a parking ticket.

They haven't? Really? So, you've already seen Mueller's report? Got a link?

:roll:
 
At the end of the day they have been conditioned to hate liberals/Democrats, and anyone that gives them hell, they love.

We have seen NO evidence that any negative character trait was sufficient for them not to support Trump.
We have seen NO evidence that being unable to advance any real Republican agenda (for which there isn't any), has turned them off either.

Indeed, what else is there that drives that blind loyalty?

You can see it indirectly, where they claim they are the real victims...victims of the PC police. Victims of people who tell them they are racists. People who ridicule their inability to make a lick of sense. For being ignorant on nearly every topic that they preach about. For living hundreds of miles from any border, but being so mad at immigrants. Etc.

They are mad at being ostracized from the modern world that is leaving them behind, and Trump is a cudgel to hit back. Not too long ago, these types were willing to kill other Americans in an effort to keep human slaves. I mean, maybe this is progress.

This is about as dishonest as it gets. Let me address each "point":

1. I've never been conditioned to hate liberals and/or Democrats. I've actually voted for a handful of Democrats in my life. What I vehemently oppose is the far left, which is where the Democrat party has moved.

2. Trump has negative traits, particularly a thin skin and inability to shut up when needed but, in the essentials, he is right. A POTUS needs to put the US first and then worry about the rest. That is what Trump does. That it enrages the left says more about them than Trump.

3. Trump has made strides on jobs, trade deals, making our allies more accountable, etc. The lack of progress on immigration results from him being up against powerful forces on each side which want the status quo.

4. Oh where to start? Yes, the PC police are pernicious. They are like all the little functionaries you'd find in every totalitarian government, just glad to have something to do and gratified that it involves curtailing some activity they decide should be curtailed. Racists? Now, that is a standard go to response from people without ideas. If you think that all conservatives and/or Trump supporters are racists then how could one have any discussion? You can't, which is what the left counts on. Mad at immigrants? Hmmm..is that illegal immigrants, all immigrants or just the brown ones you like to rail about? Personally, I like immigrants. My Mom is a first generation immigrant. I also married one. I've known plenty of them, too. So, no, I'm not mad at immigrants. Hell, I'm not even mad at illegal immigrants for the most part, only at the people who want to perpetuate a system where they continue to come here and get protected after doing so.

5. Ostracized from the modern world? Oh, you mean disagreeing with liberals. If that's what you mean, then I'll gladly accept such ostracization. Ah, now we're really in the weeds. Let me get this straight; being a conservative or Trump supporter makes you a Confederate or, more specifically, a would be slave owner. Have I got that right? If so, then this is just further demonstration of the left's need to attack their opponents' characters because they can't win on issues. You'd think you guys would have drained that well dry by now but it seems not.
 
What you call "TDS" was created long ago by all that got to know him, good people have been shunning Trump for decades. He's a career sleazeball who's been paling around with organized crime figures for much of his life. Us New Yorkers have known these things for many years. You guys are the rubes that don't have a clue. That's what Trump likes about you.



https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/05/donald-trump-2016-mob-organized-crime-213910

I used to live in NYC. He's never been more than a joke there. Even the mob stopped doing business with him, and he had to start going to shady outfits like Deutsche Bank and the Bank of Cyprus for funding, and they would only loan him money if certain Eastern European oligarchs would guarantee the loan.

Really, what "good businessman" runs a freaking casino into bankruptcy?

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Or have come to realize that having an extremely unpopular sitting POTUS run for re-election is better than allowing the republicants the opportunity to run another candidate in 2020.

I hope they do. I hope they primary his ass right out of town.
 
I'm not sure he even loves his own kids.
He’d probably throw all of them under the bus to save himself, except Ivanka. He seems to love her a little too much. :naughty
 
That (bolded above) would be median, but the point remains valid. That is why driving on public roadways is scary - if you are of median intellect then half of the drivers you share the roadways with are dumber than you are.

Damn, dude ... I so did not need that reminder about John Q. Public! I have to get out on the road today, and it's snowing here!

:afraid:
 
I agree that is a talent he has, but I wouldn’t call it a good quality. At least not in the way he uses it.

He has done a couple things and signed a couple things that I like, but as far as personal qualities? I am REALLY trying to think of a good quality he has, and am coming up short.

Even most hardened criminals have a code they live by. But I get the impression that he doesn’t hold any inner convictions about anything.

I’m sure has some. He HAS to. I just can’t think of any off the top of my head without resorting to things like “He isn’t a child molestor” or “he hasn’t started any new wars”. But I don’t think “he could be worse” counts as a “redeeming quality”. I’ll keep thinking.

Don't bother. You'll just lose IQ points.

Trump's one and only concern, his only consideration, and the thing that guides everything he says and does, is his ego. It's as big as Texas and as fragile as a soap bubble. That's all anyone needs to know about Donald J. Trump.
 
LOL ... I was just thinking of starting a thread in the basement to discuss ironic screen names. Yours is way up there. You couldn't hit the spot if someone held the target right in front of you as you wobbled around the barroom.

:lamo

I've always preferred the phrase "He couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat."
 
Yeah, preparing his base for the loss that never came. I personally think he was more shocked than democrats that he won.

If Trump had had the least idea of what the job really was, and the kind of transparency and accountability required, it's my opinion that he would have run away screaming.
 
Does Trump have any good qualities?


I know some will say he does. Go ahead. List a few. Make me laugh.

He's good at getting his haters to whine about him, night and day, 24-7.
Let me add some mood music for the thread... :violin :violin

Carry on
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