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Does fact checking discriminate against conservatives?

I find it interesting that you say that the left lies all of the time and then just mention that the right lies also like doing so proves your point that the left lies all of the time. What would you say if it is said that Trump lied 30,000 times in his first four years. It would seem then that the chief of the right lies all of the time as that is what it would take to lie 30,000 times in just four years. Nothing you have written though suggests that fact checkers lean either right or left except you say so. Please provide a link to a study from a nonpartisan source that proves that they lean left.
 
Lord of Planar said:
Yes, old news. Do you have a point?
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Trump called them patriots, is that what they were or were they rioters who not only broke into our capital to try and stop the Electoral vote count but hurt 140 policemen while doing so. So do you believe Trump's lies about them or the truth that they were rioters?
 
Why does this matter to you? Don't you see, they are all corrupt in DC. You cannot make it that high in politics without being corrupt.
WisconIndependent said:
Nothing you have written though suggests that fact checkers lean either right or left except you say so. Please provide a link to a study from a nonpartisan source that proves that they lean left.
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See. you need a link of someone else telling you what to believe. You cannot decipher it for yourself.
 
Integrityrespec said:
And for several years they told us there was no basis for thinking Covid came out of the Wuhan lab. Ooops, got that wrong didn't they.
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No, not really. There's a basis in the sense that it's logically possible, but that's it. There's no positive evidence that Covid-19 was caused by a laboratory leak, and comparatively few virologists and biologists think it was. On the other hand, the DNA sequencing makes a pretty strong case for zoonosis.

Integrityrespec said:
How about the Trump Russian Collusion hoax? They missed on that one too.
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Many of us watched collusion unfold in real time, live on the air. Not sure how anyone can believe otherwise, but here we are.

Integrityrespec said:
Wait, the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation? Nope it was really Hunter's laptop.
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The laptop was his, but that was hardly the issue. What was alleged to be on it was the issue, and there's never been any evidence that anything Bannon et. al. were saying was on it actually was. The forensics teams that analyzed the laptop found that the content that could be authenticated as having been created by Hunter Biden was pretty tame and provided no support for conspiracy theories. They also found that folders were created after the laptop had been dropped off, and those folders contained apparently forged documents that played into the conspiratorial nonsense.

Integrityrespec said:
Oh, and the Joe Biden is fit as a fiddle and a cognitive dynamo behind closed doors.
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This one, I grant, was probably incorrect. Then again, it was also the least echoed by the fact checkers (it was mainly repeated by the Biden press secretary and the Vice President).

Integrityrespec said:
So with the record of these high profile claims why should we trust these "fact checkers"?
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Because they're usually correct. Not always, certainly--no human being could be. But it is important to have the facts straight.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
She believes Michelle Obama (mother of 2) and Brigitte Marie-Claude Macron (1st Lady of France, mother of 3) are....wait for it....men.

She is a nut case.
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I never heard of her saying Michelle Obama was a man, but se has said Brigitte is. She was very solid on that 39 year old teacher falling for the 14 year old prove, and married him later. There was lots of creepy child/woman stuff going on there, and maybe then, she isn't even a woman.
 
The Right were once prolific fact checkers until lies became truth and alternate facts became their reality.
 
Just because you "never heard" doesn't mean it's not true.
Sheesh.
Many things can be true at once. Even things you "never heard".
 
Recent news says otherwise.
ashurbanipal said:
Many of us watched collusion unfold in real time, live on the air. Not sure how anyone can believe otherwise, but here we are.
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The collusion was from the Clinton campaign.

Report: DNC and Clinton Campaign Helped Fund Trump/Russia 'Steele Dossier'

The Washington Post reported that a law firm representing the Democratic National Committee and Clinton campaign retained Fusion GPS to investigate Trump.
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I don't know enough about the laptop, but is interesting that they keep trying to deny it, when there is so much evidence it was Hunter's.
 
Lord of Planar said:
Why does this matter to you? Don't you see, they are all corrupt in DC. You cannot make it that high in politics without being corrupt.

See. you need a link of someone else telling you what to believe. You cannot decipher it for yourself.
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Because I actually believe in the rule of law. The law said the rioters should be in jail, but the right calls them patriots and Trump pardons them and is now sic'ing his crones to go after those in the FBI, DOJ and even law firms that put the rioters in jail. THis is what you voted for, the end of the rule of law and the autocrat in the WHite House.
 
Most of the stuff listed here, is NOT a fact check at all. It's a rating system that checks for potential bias, except for at the source of the 'fact checkers' themselves.

Fact checkers should limit themselves to checking actual verifiable facts, and not involve themselves with checking things they want to put a spin on, because some folks take the fact checkers (on subjective information) as gospel.

So no, facts are facts, but the people who sometimes think opinions, or probabilities, or subjective determinations, are facts that need to be checked aren't checking facts in those instances.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
No, he asked for links backing what YOU claim, thats SOP.
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I researched the information some time ago. I explained I would have to search it again.

Never, I repeat never believe what someone tells you to believe. If you have not verified the information as fact, do not repeat it.

Have you ever noticed how all the left news is in sync with their message? they brainwash you that way, No matter what channel you turn to, they all say the same story.

It usually is not very apparent, but remember when Al Gore was running, and all the leftist news station all were saying how Al Gore had "gravitas?" You know it was the same force-feeding to the public.

This is one way the media lies to you. I forget what term was used, but a similar one occurred recently that is obvious.

You guys are learning lies, and believing lies as fact. Without verifying what you are told, you are a useful tool for the propaganda.
 
I have a hard time believing the number, and my first impression would be someone is claiming their opinion any time he says something they disagree with. Ir they pulled the number out of their ass.

Can you imagine the fact checking to that if fact checking actually occurred? i have heard that number before, but it is another thing so far out there, I need to see the facts before believing it.
 
Lord of Planar said:
I never heard of her saying Michelle Obama was a man, but se has said Brigitte is.
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Both, and it is insanity, absolutely nutcase.....but you like her. Figures.
Lord of Planar said:
She was very solid on that 39 year old teacher falling for the 14 year old prove, and married him later. There was lots of creepy child/woman stuff going on there, and maybe then, she isn't even a woman.
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What are you mumbling and stumbling about now?
 
Lord of Planar said:
I researched the information some time ago. I explained I would have to search it again.
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So what? Thats how debate works, back it up, couldn't care less about how long ago you reviewed it, back your arguments NOW.
 
lynnwinslow said:
Just because you "never heard" doesn't mean it's not true.
Sheesh.
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You are making a claim i do not believe. I do know she is solidly convinced that Brigitte is a man. I have heard her speak of the evidence ind it is very convincing.

Again, I never heard he say Michelle Obama was a man. Can you back that up? I did searched and came up with nothing on that.
lynnwinslow said:
Many things can be true at once. Even things you "never heard".
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I had one hit on a link saying she said Michelle was a man, but that link never went there. It only spoke of Brigitte.

I would be curious to se her words in context if she mentioned such a thing.

Context is important. It is too easy to take a snippet of someone;s words and put a false narrative on it.
 
US&THEM said:
The Constitution matters, law matters and Trump continues to push. His incompetence is staggering
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OK. believe as you wish. You have that right.
 
Do you now see how stupid it looks to make claims in a thread about fact checking and then refuse to back them up with links?
 
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