Does Anyone On The Left Actually Understand Trump Won Because of Them?

[Blue Dog]

Trump won because too many voters preferred to be entertained than governed.

 

[Gimmesometruth]

Yes I defended the op and I still do. You just can’t accept the responsibility that you’re at fault. No amount of excuses on your or other Dems parts hold water.

Sure, I am at fault for your reaction, that is the classic reactionary move, to blame the other, to not take responsibility, to be embarrassed during the walk of shame.

Stop regretting your choice, stop trying to shift blame for your own actions.

 

[eohrnberger]

I know, you can't take responsibility for your choice

It is someone else's problem....

But we know who you voted for, the why is not Donny, the why is Dems.

But you are not taking responsibility for your "opinion", your "opinion" is the reaction to....dems.

Say the guy supporting the idea that dems are to blame for your choice.....not the candidate, not his policies.....but.....the policies of the others.

That's reactionary.

Yeah, sorry, but you aren't worth the time. Exchanges with are simply not interesting enough.

 

[Gimmesometruth]

Yeah, sorry, but you aren't worth the time. Exchanges with are simply not interesting enough.

The reason I'm not going to counter you is because it is your fault.....

 

[Fletch]

I often wonder how many on the left have some level of understanding that Trump would have never been president, ever, if it hadn't been for all they and their bought and paid for media did against Trump. Anyone on the left here actually realize it was the left who elected Trump? Did you just go too far, with everything? Or, is it just an Ostrich with their heads in the sand thing?

Clearly they have not lol

 

[Schweddy]

I often wonder how many on the left have some level of understanding that Trump would have never been president, ever, if it hadn't been for all they and their bought and paid for media did against Trump. Anyone on the left here actually realize it was the left who elected Trump? Did you just go too far, with everything? Or, is it just an Ostrich with their heads in the sand thing?

Trump won because:

• Extreme bias in the media.
• Older conservatives would never vote for a woman even though they can't stand Trump. (Sorry, but this is true)
• People were getting tired of being told what and how to think about gender. Ex: Men in woman's sports normalized, dudes can menstruate
• Voting was being monitored heavily thus there was likely less fraud.
• Racism is dead and it was biggest argument on Dems side.
• Dems were unable to ignite enough interest about abortion going back to the states.
• Economy

 

[Fletch]

Bullshit.
Here's why Trump was elected- if you are of just average intelligence half the population is dumber than you and Trump was elected by less than half the voters. Twice.
The dumbest electorate in the world elected the dumbest leader in the world.

Thats the dumbest answer possible but by all means, keep insulting the voters. Thats the perfect way to keep the mindless, hateful left out of power for a generation

 

[StillBallin75]

GO TOO FAR WITH EVERYTHING LMAO

Assuming you are equating Democrats with "the Left," nothing could be further from the actual truth.

The ACTUAL Left sees Democrats as controlled right wing opposition who constantly cater to the right only to get called Communists and Socialists anyways.

You people live in another ****ing dimension with your galactic levels of manufactured victimhood. The only thing the Democratic Party has ever done to screw you is essentially what the Republican Party does ten times better. Cater to billionaires and corporate interests at the expense of any working human.

The fact that you feel victimized by Democrats on any front tells me you're a ****ing fascist, you were always going to be a fascist, and there is no compromise with people like you because Democrats bend over backwards to cater to the right and you STILL see them as a sworn enemy.

 

[Fletch]

Trump won because:

• Extreme bias in the media.
• Older conservatives would never vote for a woman even though they can't stand Trump. (Sorry, but this is true)
• People were getting tired of being told what and how to think about gender. Ex: Men in woman's sports normalized, dudes can menstruate
• Voting was being monitored heavily thus there was likely less fraud.
• Racism is dead and it was biggest argument on Dems side.
• Dems were unable to ignite enough interest about abortion going back to the states.
• Economy

* Trump was the better alternative

 

[Fletch]

GO TOO FAR WITH EVERYTHING LMAO

Assuming you are equating Democrats with "the Left," nothing could be further from the actual truth.

The ACTUAL Left sees Democrats as controlled right wing opposition who constantly cater to the right only to get called Communists and Socialists anyways.

You people live in another ****ing dimension with your galactic levels of manufactured victimhood. The only thing the Democratic Party has ever done to screw you is essentially what the Republican Party does ten times better. Cater to billionaires and corporate interests at the expense of any working human.

The fact that you feel victimized by Democrats on any front tells me you're a ****ing fascist, you were always going to be a fascist, and there is no compromise with people like you because Democrats bend over backwards to cater to the right and you STILL see them as a sworn enemy.

I suppose that to a commie, everyone looks like a fascist.

 

[bomberfox]

Trump won because:

• Extreme bias in the media.
• Older conservatives would never vote for a woman even though they can't stand Trump. (Sorry, but this is true)
• People were getting tired of being told what and how to think about gender. Ex: Men in woman's sports normalized, dudes can menstruate
• Voting was being monitored heavily thus there was likely less fraud.
• Racism is dead and it was biggest argument on Dems side.
• Dems were unable to ignite enough interest about abortion going back to the states.
• Economy

Racism isnt dead. It would be nice but that aint reality. Racism is why Vance can spread neo nazi lies about Haitian immigrants and still get elected.

 

[Grand Mal]

Thats the dumbest answer possible but by all means, keep insulting the voters. Thats the perfect way to keep the mindless, hateful left out of power for a generation

It's the truth. Trump is an idiot and the only ones who would vote for him are the ones who are dumber than he is.
He thinks you're stupid. He tells you stupid lies because he thinks you will believe him. And still you support him!

 

[Schweddy]

Cater to billionaires and corporate interests at the expense of any working human.

That describes US politics, not any specific party.

 

[Fletch]

It's the truth. Trump is an idiot and the only ones who would vote for him are the ones who are dumber than he is.
He thinks you're stupid. He tells you stupid lies because he thinks you will believe him. And still you support him!

Keep it up. Please.

 

[Gimmesometruth]

Trump won because:

• Extreme bias in the media.

The dem media made me vote for Donny...

• Older conservatives would never vote for a woman even though they can't stand Trump. (Sorry, but this is true)

Dems are to blame for our misogyny.

• People were getting tired of being told what and how to think about gender. Ex: Men in woman's sports normalized, dudes can menstruate

Dems are to blame because they talked about teh gays

• Voting was being monitored heavily thus there was likely less fraud.

Dems only win with fraud....

• Racism is dead and it was biggest argument on Dems side.

Dems made me vote for Donny because black people....

• Dems were unable to ignite enough interest about abortion going back to the states.

Donny won because Dems could not get GOP women to value their own self interests....

• Economy

We lied about the economy and voters believed us, dems are to blame for that.

 

[Schweddy]

Racism isnt dead. It would be nice but that aint reality.

What, in your opinion, would a non-racist US look like?

I actually lied. I should have said dead in the US. Racism is very much alive in Saudi Arabia, they still have slaves.

 

[bomberfox]

What, in your opinion, would a non-racist US look like?

I actually lied. I should have said dead in the US. Racism is very much alive in Saudi Arabia, they still have slaves.

Its not dead in america, its very much alive and returning. Your strawmen are rarely amusing. Non racists dont defeat racism, anti racists do.

 

[Gimmesometruth]

Thats the dumbest answer possible but by all means, keep insulting the voters. Thats the perfect way to keep the mindless, hateful left out of power for a generation

Wow you typed out that second sentence without choking on the hypocrisy.

Well done.

 

[Gimmesometruth]

What, in your opinion, would a non-racist US look like?

I actually lied. I should have said dead in the US. Racism is very much alive in Saudi Arabia, they still have slaves.

Racism in the US ended in 1865!

 

[Schweddy]

Its not dead in america, its very much alive and returning. Your strawmen are rarely amusing.

It was a very simple question. No straw-man. No set up. No gotcha.

What, in your opinion, would a non-racist US look like?

 

[Maccabee]

There wont be because democrats dont fight for it. They keep stupidly thinking trump is an aberration. He isnt. He is the inevitable consequence of the US system. There is no peaceful way out of this. Its not defeatist, its an admittance that the system is not designed to bring justice. Trump is a creature of the capitalist system.

So are you going to vote next election cycle to try your best to prevent the inevitable bloodshed you think is necessary to keep our democracy?

 

[gman]

I've never blamed those who didn't vote for either Trump or Harris for Trump having won. A search of my posts around here would confirm that such as this.

Those who are responsible for Trump having won are those who voted for him and/or donated to his campaign. Those who voted for third-party candidates aren't responsible for Trump having won. Link

I should’ve been more concise. I didn’t mean you you, I was referring to all Dems who voiced that opinion. Mea culpa.

 

[bomberfox]

It was a very simple question. No straw-man. No set up. No gotcha.

What, in your opinion, would a non-racist US look like?

An anti racist US would not tolerate Vance spreading lies concocted by neo nazis, it would not tolerate trump doing as his father did, blacken the hearts of Americans with racist lies. It would not suspect black men when they enter their own homes to the point a black homeowner has to do much more than i do to prove he owns the home, black and asian sounding names would not statistically count against you. It would not create a hyper trigger finger police force, nor would it be tormenting latin american immigrants for a mere misdemeanor. It would also work to get rid of gentrification and racial gerrymandering.

It would not just blithely follow someone wanting to get rid of the civil rights act as kirk did. Oh yeah it would also demand republicans repudiate the southern strategy instead of constantly lying about it.

 

[gman]

Sure, I am at fault for your reaction, that is the classic reactionary move, to blame the other, to not take responsibility, to be embarrassed during the walk of shame.

Stop regretting your choice, stop trying to shift blame for your own actions.

I can live with my choice, as much as I can. Didn’t like the choices presented. It’s as simple as that. Obviously I’m not alone.

 

[Gimmesometruth]

That describes US politics, not any specific party.

****, you can't even accept that the GOP have been the backers of big business and have fought against workers rights for most of the 20th century and all of the 21st.