Does Anyone On The Left Actually Understand Trump Won Because of Them?

[Gardener]

Now that you mention it, you ARE a lot like Trump.

 

[Ganondagan]

Like how the other Amendments have prevented his other abuses of power?

Is the Constitution going to march up the to White House and arrest him?

Trump is not going to try running for a third term.

 

[Nickyjo]

There was no massive illegal immigration. Biden just attempted to adhere to US law and treaty obligations, stuff Trump doesn’t care about.

It's actually much more than that. It would appear that perhaps unfettered massive illegal immigration, lawfare, puberty blockers for minors, and males in female sports was not a good sell after all. As much as I dislike Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, it did not really matter who the democrats nominated. They were going to lose anyway over party policy.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

As it worked out he had 4 years to prepare for his
current term.

And he didn't lower grocery prices, didn't lower rents, didn't stop the Ukraine war.

What exactly did he "prepare"?

 

[Ganondagan]

Like how the other Amendments have prevented his other abuses of power?

Is the Constitution going to march up the to White House and arrest him?

Yeah, you can stop with the hyperbole now. You've embarrassed yourself enough.

 

[Mika-El]

You guys motivated Trump's supporters to get out and vote with all of the lawfare and constant attacks on him. If you hadn't done those, Trump wouldn't be president.

That makes zero sense. You need to get a hold of reality and basic language. If the majority of anti Trumpers do not vote that assures Trump wins the election by default of having more votes.

Next in a free democracy which clearly you do not understand people question their leaders openly and there are debates.

You either are absolutely unaware how democracy works or a Russian troll. Which one is it?

 

[Moderate Right]

That makes zero sense. You need to get a hold of reality and basic language. If the majority of anti Trumpers do not vote that assures Trump wins the election by default of having more votes.

Next in a free democracy which clearly you do not understand people question their leaders openly and there are debates.

You either are absolutely unaware how democracy works or a Russian troll. Which one is it?

LOL. Thanks for the laugh. Democracy elected Trump.

 

[Questerr]

Trump is not going to try running for a third term.

Then why does he keep saying he’s going to?

 

[Ganondagan]

Then why does he keep saying he’s going to?

I don't care what he says, he won't be able to run for a third term.

 

[BirdinHand]

I don't care what he says, he won't be able to run for a third term.

The way he looks, he will be lucky to live through this one.

But

 

[Questerr]

I don't care what he says, he won't be able to run for a third term.

People said the same things about him stripping people of birthright citizenship, or sending people to concentration camps, or sending the US military into US cities.

 

[Gimmesometruth]

Democracy elected Trump.

You changed your argument, thats an own goal.

 

[MAGAnificent]

There was no massive illegal immigration.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

 

[Nickyjo]

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

I assume you didn’t read, or decided not to include the second sentence of my post. If you don’t like what Biden did, work to change or eliminate the relevant laws and treaties that the US has passed and ratified. If you need the section of the law or the names of the three relevant treaties, let me know.

 

[MAGAnificent]

I assume you didn’t read, or decided not to include the second sentence of my post.

After that sentence there was no need to read further. It's mind boggling that you don't think that there was massive illegal immigration during the Biden Administration. Illegal immigration is the biggest single reason that your party had its ass handed to it in 2024 Start your posts seriously, and I might take them seriously.

 

[Nickyjo]

After that sentence there was no need to read further. It's mind boggling that you don't think that there was massive illegal immigration during the Biden Administration. Illegal immigration is the biggest single reason that your party had its ass handed to it in 2024 Start your posts seriously, and I might take them seriously.

Law and order is a bitch sometimes.

Again, if you don’t like the laws and treaties that require the US to allow people to apply for asylum and prohibit the US from returning refugees to danger, change them. Or continue to support Trump. He doesn’t give a shit about laws and treaties, or protecting people from persecution— unless they are White South Africans. To be fair, he only suggested shooting other migrants in the legs, not head shots.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Again, if you don’t like the laws and treaties that require the US to allow people to apply for asylum and prohibit the US from returning refugees to danger, change them. Or continue to support Trump.

There is no law against applying for asylum, however legally in virtually all cases it must be done at a US consulate, an American Embassy, or at least at a legal port of entry. Just running across the border and yelling: "I request asylum" has never given you a legal right to remain in the US while your request is being considered. And if you want to be intellectually honest, none of those illegals planned asylum. That is just what they were told to say if they were caught, knowing that some idiot administrations would give them a court date 1 to 3 years off and release them. The vast majority of them never show up for the court date and those who do face a roughly 90% refusal.

He doesn’t give a shit about laws and treaties, or protecting people from persecution— unless they are White South Africans.

To be fair, those White South Africans Trump gave asylum to were absolutely being persecuted in South Africa. Not the case with the turds running across our southern borders.

 

[Luce]

There is no law against applying for asylum, however legally in virtually all cases it must be done at a US consulate, an American Embassy, or at least at a legal port of entry.

WRONG.

8 U.S. Code § 1158 - Asylum

www.law.cornell.edu

Any alien who is physically present in the United States or who arrives in the United States (whether or not at a designated port of arrival and including an alien who is brought to the United States after having been interdicted in international or United States waters), irrespective of such alien’s status, may apply for asylum in accordance with this section or, where applicable, section 1225(b) of this title.

 

[MAGAnificent]

WRONG.

8 U.S. Code § 1158 - Asylum

www.law.cornell.edu

If you read this part of your link, it does not guarantee any such illegal applying for asylum must be allowed to remain in the states while his or her case is considered:

8 U.S. Code § 1225 - Inspection by immigration officers; expedited removal of inadmissible arriving aliens; referral for hearing

www.law.cornell.edu

 

[Luce]

If you read this part of your link, it does not guarantee any such illegal applying for asylum must be allowed to remain in the states while his or her case is considered:

8 U.S. Code § 1225 - Inspection by immigration officers; expedited removal of inadmissible arriving aliens; referral for hearing

www.law.cornell.edu

That's nice. It's not what you were arguing. You said:

There is no law against applying for asylum, however legally in virtually all cases it must be done at a US consulate, an American Embassy, or at least at a legal port of entry.

 

[MAGAnificent]

That's nice. It's not what you were arguing. You said: There is no law against applying for asylum, however legally in virtually all cases it must be done at a US consulate, an American Embassy, or at least at a legal port of entry.

It amounts to the same thing. Sneaking across the border if caught and yelling" "I seek asylum in the US", does not mean there is a law guaranteeing you can remain in the US while your request is considered. That only happens during idiot administrations.

 

[Luce]

It amounts to the same thing.

It does not.

 

[Nickyjo]

There is no law against applying for asylum, however legally in virtually all cases it must be done at a US consulate, an American Embassy, or at least at a legal port of entry. Just running across the border and yelling: "I request asylum" has never given you a legal right to remain in the US while your request is being considered. And if you want to be intellectually honest, none of those illegals planned asylum. That is just what they were told to say if they were caught, knowing that some idiot administrations would give them a court date 1 to 3 years off and release them. The vast majority of them never show up for the court date and those who do face a roughly 90% refusal.

To be fair, those White South Africans Trump gave asylum to were absolutely being persecuted in South Africa. Not the case with the turds running across our southern borders.

Trump couldn’t find any Black South Africans who were being persecuted? In addition, Trump terminated the refugee admissions program, in place for decades, immediately upon taking office in January, leaving thousands stranded overseas, people who had been thoroughly vetted through a process that can take a year or more. (Trump 1.0 admitted the fewest refugees by far in the history of the program.)

The Refugee Act if 1980, which I believe is still the controlling legislation states that a person can apply for asylum at the border, at a port of entry or from within the US “irrespective of (their immigration) status.” I worked on asylum cases for 20 years, participated in the training of ICE (then INS) personnel, was flown by the US to Guantanamo to meet with Haitians and Cubans, submitted written testimony to Congress. My comments are based on that experience, and reviewing and dealing with up to 1200 asylum claims per year. I can say with some certainty that many people in other countries have no ability to approach consulates or embassies without placing themselves in danger, and embassy staff might have to wait til someone with expertise shows up to process the claims. In addition many of the migrants I work with were simply running for their lives without knowing what asylum was. Back when it cared about such things, ICE leadership supported “know your rights” presentations to detained migrants, which helped advocates find genuine refugees and helped ICE to deport the unworthy.

Why can’t those who support Trump at least consider the obvious, that he cynically hit upon immigration as an issue, and attacked every aspect of it as a demagogue, with unfounded and bigoted remarks: He called Mexicans rapists, offering no proof, and said that taking in immigrants was like taking poisonous snakes into one’s home. Unless of course they are White South Africans. Support him if you will but acknowledge reality, which includes his demagoguery.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Trump couldn’t find any Black South Africans who were being persecuted?

At this point in time, not that I know of. Go back to some of the white governments in the past, then certainly there were persecuted black South Africans.

 

[Nickyjo]

At this point in time, not that I know of. Go back to some of the white governments in the past, then certainly there were persecuted black South Africans.

Persecution is not always based on race. There are plenty of human rights abuses in South Africa that put Black people at risk. Ignoring them is just another manifestation of Trump’s bigotry