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No, simply living in a country doesn't mean you consent to do business with any other person or body of persons. It usually just means you were born and the rules of the governance of that land were forced on you. There is no consent given to that governance and nor did that governance ask for it. Declaring that I must move or renounce my citizenship to not be under their command only proves my point.
Shear nonsense. Not acting to renounce my citizenship that would cost me a great deal of money in taxes doesn't mean I consent to anything. It simply means I don't wish to be taxed out of my ass. Even if that wasn't the case however not acting to relieve myself of the government doesn't mean I have issued my consent. Your argument is as silly as those fools that argue voting is issuing your consent.
No one is forced to live in the USA.
The entrances to the exits are wide open.
The draft would likely never happen again because of gender equality. To few military positions exist, outside of ground pounding infantry, that would benefit from a draft. Placing an equal amount of men and women in those positions is not going to happen.
Fell asleep during those civics classes I see. :mrgreen:
Believe what you will, however your belief fails when confronted with reality.
You speak of something based on falsehoods and lies. I speak of the truth and how things actually are outside of the brainwashing that you have endured. If you want to know the truth those men that signed the Constitution are about the only men that ever offered their consent to it.
Sure...as a minor I can see that being true. At a certain point you have a lifetime of reaping the benefits of US citizenship. Enforcement of laws, protection of property, protection of rights, those paid for by taxes and people risking their lives.
It seems like you just want a one way street. All the benefits a society can provide and non of the sacrifice required to make that society work. This is coming from a person that hates the "if you don't like it here move" or "The US is always right" lines. So what happens if there was a choice...either you enter the draft or have to renounce your citizenship and leave. Would you see that as fair or not fair?
I believe if that if are equal to men then they should be required to sign up for selective services as well.
The draft would likely never happen again because of gender equality. To few military positions exist, outside of ground pounding infantry, that would benefit from a draft. Placing an equal amount of men and women in those positions is not going to happen.
Gender equality in the military is just a political tool and as the draft rules and physical standards show there is no seriousness behind it.
Henrin;1062613905[B said:[/B]]I resent this land being called the USA as it does not represent anything it stood for and anything I find of value.
One of the great things about the USA is that people can say things like you just said and they don't get locked up for it.
Some of the citizens of the USA are ready to go to war and take a chance on losing their lifes to protect the rights that they have as U.S.citizens.
Others-not so much.
I am far more willing to fight the government than fight for the government at this point.
It's telling that people find it worthy of note that they don't get jailed for speaking their mind.
In some countries on this planet not only do you get thrown in jail for speaking out against the government lots of other bad things happen to you.
And if you try to leave you might end up under the ground. (North Korea is a good example of this.)
In this country we do get thrown in jail for speaking our mind or at the very least acted on in some sort of way. We might be able to say a great deal more than people in North Korea, but don't fool yourself into thinking you are free and can actually speak your mind.
You are speaking your mind on this forum.
What has happened to you?
Do you have a right to force people to fight for you? Yes or no? Why would it be any different for the government?
... because the government isn't like me.
If said country is under threat of invasion or ceasing to exist, then yes. It's civic duty to protect your land and your people.
I have no duty to something I never joined freely.
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