Does 100% safe sex exist?

[joko104]

On the prostitution advocacy thread, it is argued that prostitution is no different from any other business or job, and accordingly can be made both legal and entirely safe.

Is it? There are no legal jobs where a person can knowingly be exposed to diseases UNTIL there is a certain way to protect the employee. For example, employees who work with diseases in a way they could be infected in how they do so are required to wear full hazmat suits, their licensing is VERY strict, and the requirements for safety of the facility also intense.

Legalize prostitution would be the ONLY profession legalizing employees knowing being exposed to both diseases - including deadly diseases - and diseases that can be transmitted to other people, including transmitted without sex, such as TB and hepatitis. Even HIV/AIDS can be transmitted without sex in various ways.

Is there such a thing as 100% safe sex and does the number of stranger sex partners increase the likelihood of contracting a disease? Should the government obtain tax revenue by taking a cut off off of legalizing the spreading diseases?

 

[Lutherf]

100% safe sex can be achieved but it requires 11.4 miles of saran wrap, a 5 gallon bucket of antibacterial soap, hip waders and 3 chickens.

Most folks aren't really into it but there is a website, a few underground clubs and an independent film on the subject which is supposed to come out next year.

 

[iliveonramen]

On the prostitution advocacy thread, it is argued that prostitution is no different from any other business or job, and accordingly can be made both legal and entirely safe.

Is it? There are no legal jobs where a person can knowingly be exposed to diseases UNTIL there is a certain way to protect the employee. For example, employees who work with diseases in a way they could be infected in how they do so are required to wear full hazmat suits, their licensing is VERY strict, and the requirements for safety of the facility also intense.

Legalize prostitution would be the ONLY profession legalizing employees knowing being exposed to both diseases - including deadly diseases - and diseases that can be transmitted to other people, including transmitted without sex, such as TB and hepatitis. Even HIV/AIDS can be transmitted without sex in various ways.

Is there such a thing as 100% safe sex and does the number of stranger sex partners increase the likelihood of contracting a disease? Should the government obtain tax revenue by taking a cut off off of legalizing the spreading diseases?

Probably not...but prostitution is the result of two adults deciding to engage in risky behaviors.

 

[DA60]

Sure, it's called the Internet.

 

[joG]

On the prostitution advocacy thread, it is argued that prostitution is no different from any other business or job, and accordingly can be made both legal and entirely safe.

Is it? There are no legal jobs where a person can knowingly be exposed to diseases UNTIL there is a certain way to protect the employee. For example, employees who work with diseases in a way they could be infected in how they do so are required to wear full hazmat suits, their licensing is VERY strict, and the requirements for safety of the facility also intense.

Legalize prostitution would be the ONLY profession legalizing employees knowing being exposed to both diseases - including deadly diseases - and diseases that can be transmitted to other people, including transmitted without sex, such as TB and hepatitis. Even HIV/AIDS can be transmitted without sex in various ways.

Is there such a thing as 100% safe sex and does the number of stranger sex partners increase the likelihood of contracting a disease? Should the government obtain tax revenue by taking a cut off off of legalizing the spreading diseases?

It is like being a nurse or doctor. You wear the gear and wash the hands. Some get infected.some die. Most don't. But here in Germany about 8 times more patients die of multi resistant bacteria picked up in hospitals than contract aids.

 

[joG]

Probably not...but prostitution is the result of two adults deciding to engage in risky behaviors.

Sounds like cops and robbers.

 

[joG]

100% safe sex can be achieved but it requires 11.4 miles of saran wrap, a 5 gallon bucket of antibacterial soap, hip waders and 3 chickens.

Most folks aren't really into it but there is a website, a few underground clubs and an independent film on the subject which is supposed to come out next year.

I must try that.

 

[joko104]

Probably not...but prostitution is the result of two adults deciding to engage in risky behaviors.

Do you think this should apply to all employment? That 2 adults, or a company and employer, can decide upon any risk the employee is willing to take?

Do you think OSHA should be eliminated because employee safety is just a matter between employer-employee?

 

[joko104]

It is like being a nurse or doctor. You wear the gear and wash the hands. Some get infected.some die. Most don't. But here in Germany about 8 times more patients die of multi resistant bacteria picked up in hospitals than contract aids.

You mean wearing a condom doesn't protect against those diseases?

 

[joG]

You mean wearing a condom doesn't protect against those diseases?

Full body latex and a condom on the tongue will afford some comfort, I am sure.

 

[iliveonramen]

Do you think this should apply to all employment? That 2 adults, or a company and employer, can decide upon any risk the employee is willing to take?

Do you think OSHA should be eliminated because employee safety is just a matter between employer-employee?

Not even related. Some jobs are more inherently riskier than others. OSHA is about minimizing risk in the workplace. A coal miner is signing up for a riskier job than a secretary. It's still the duty of the coal mining company to reduce that risk by complying with safety standards. The same would be the situation with prostitution.

 

[AGENT J]

On the prostitution advocacy thread, it is argued that prostitution is no different from any other business or job, and accordingly can be made both legal and entirely safe.

Is it? There are no legal jobs where a person can knowingly be exposed to diseases UNTIL there is a certain way to protect the employee. For example, employees who work with diseases in a way they could be infected in how they do so are required to wear full hazmat suits, their licensing is VERY strict, and the requirements for safety of the facility also intense.

Legalize prostitution would be the ONLY profession legalizing employees knowing being exposed to both diseases - including deadly diseases - and diseases that can be transmitted to other people, including transmitted without sex, such as TB and hepatitis. Even HIV/AIDS can be transmitted without sex in various ways.

Is there such a thing as 100% safe sex and does the number of stranger sex partners increase the likelihood of contracting a disease? Should the government obtain tax revenue by taking a cut off off of legalizing the spreading diseases?

please qoute the person who said it can be made entirely safe
not saying it didnt happen i just must of missed the post and or thread

and theres no correct poll option so it wont be taken seriously as the replies before me already show lol

 

[joko104]

Not even related. Some jobs are more inherently riskier than others. OSHA is about minimizing risk in the workplace. A coal miner is signing up for a riskier job than a secretary. It's still the duty of the coal mining company to reduce that risk by complying with safety standards. The same would be the situation with prostitution.

It is related as the risk is communicable diseases. Nor does OSHA take a percentage of the coal miner's risk, does it?

 

[AGENT J]

100% safe sex can be achieved but it requires 11.4 miles of saran wrap, a 5 gallon bucket of antibacterial soap, hip waders and 3 chickens.

Most folks aren't really into it but there is a website, a few underground clubs and an independent film on the subject which is supposed to come out next year.

damn it i thought it was 2 chickens and a rooster not 3 chickens, you also left out the plunger???

i mean . . . . . at least that what i heard . . . .from a friend of mine . . . . .i mean a girl at the bar . . . . i dont really know . . . .

never mind!!!!

 

[joko104]

please qoute the person who said it can be made entirely safe
not saying it didnt happen i just must of missed the post and or thread

and theres no correct poll option so it wont be taken seriously as the replies before me already show lol

I could dig out the "both legal and safe" quote I suppose.

Legalized prostitution is being presented by some as really cool, safe, enlightened and liberating women from sexual hang ups.

At least recognize what it is. I also think it is important that the thread has MOSTLY evolved to advocacy of Nevada style brothels and corporate escort services. Do you think that is an accurate depiction of - for the most part - the evolution of those 2 other threads?

Yes, I would like to change the poll to add to different options. First, a simple "No." They other would be something about believing the net result is less spreading of diseases.

What is disregarded is that STDs (what people call STDs) are not the only diseases spread by the closeness of sexual activities.

 

[iliveonramen]

It is related as the risk is communicable diseases. Nor does OSHA take a percentage of the coal miner's risk, does it?

Not sure what your point is regarding the first sentence or what your seconds sentence means.

The fact is, there are dangerous jobs out there and people choose those jobs, usually better pay. Alaskan fisher man, drilling for oil, coal miner, police officer etc. Those are all jobs where actually performing the job is risky. Prostitution would be a risky field to enter.

OSHA (if prostitution was legal) would have regulations to minimize that risk...drug tests, use of protection etc.

 

[AGENT J]

1.)I could dig out the "both legal and safe" quote I suppose.
2.)Legalized prostitution is being presented by some as really cool, safe, enlightened and liberating women from sexual hang ups.
3.) At least recognize what it is.
4.) I also think it is important that the thread has MOSTLY evolved to advocacy of Nevada style brothels and corporate escort services. Do you think that is an accurate depiction of - for the most part - the evolution of those 2 other threads?
5.)Yes, I would like to change the poll to add to different options. First, a simple "No." They other would be something about believing the net result is less spreading of diseases.
6.)What is disregarded is that STDs (what people call STDs) are not the only diseases spread by the closeness of sexual activities.

1.) im looking for what you said "entirely safe" please do so thanks
2.) could you provide those quotes too, thanks
3.) what is it?
4.) no
5.) a mod might do it for you if they take it serious but you made it kind of hard
6.) who "disregarded" that?

 

[joko104]

1.) im looking for what you said "entirely safe" please do so thanks
2.) could you provide those quotes too, thanks
3.) what is it?
4.) no
5.) a mod might do it for you if they take it serious but you made it kind of hard
6.) who "disregarded" that?

Since you essentially answer no questions yourself, why would anyone answer yours?

 

[AGENT J]

Since you essentially answer no questions yourself, why would anyone answer yours?

so you dont have the quotes? got it, didnt think you did, just more stuff you simply made up, exaggerated or assumed

 

[Fearandloathing]

100% safe sex can be achieved but it requires 11.4 miles of saran wrap, a 5 gallon bucket of antibacterial soap, hip waders and 3 chickens.

Most folks aren't really into it but there is a website, a few underground clubs and an independent film on the subject which is supposed to come out next year.

Then there was the case of the couple who, after a romantic evening, negotiated the boundaries of their sexual tryst, applied necessary lotions and potions, a thin layer of latex and away they went.

the bed broke as he had a heart attack, she broke her neck in the fall.

 

[Visbek]

Is there such a thing as 100% safe sex

There is no 100% safe anything.

Y'know what the most dangerous job is in the US? Roofing. It's got a fatality rate of 34.7 per 100,000. Should we ban people from roofing jobs until we make it safer?

Any job can result in a form of harm. The real question is how great are the risks, can they be mitigated, and how much. Since prostitution is decriminalized in Nevada (or is it legalized? I forget), we can use them as a case study to measure the risks and efficacy of regulations.

does the number of stranger sex partners increase the likelihood of contracting a disease

With all due respect? Yes. Duh.

Should the government obtain tax revenue by taking a cut off off of legalizing the spreading diseases?

Again, look at Nevada. It won't be perfect, since there is surely sex tourism involved, but it might give you a decent idea.

 

[Lursa]

Such a biased poll. Couldnt make your point in the other thread so you came to see if you could get some reinforcements here?

No, there is no such thing as 100% safe sex but there are reasonable precautions that both parties can take to minimize the risks to levels comparable or below those taken by people who eat in public eating establishments (for example).

Didnt see one in your poll choices. At least the part in bold could have been added if there was any objectivity involved in it's creation.

 

[lizzie]

With strangers? No, I don't believe so. You have no idea who they've been with, what their history is, what they've been exposed to, or any other piece of information upon which trust can be built. Imo, it's absolutely insane to have sex with a stranger. Maybe that makes me old-fashioned, but I'd rather be the way I am, without STD's or unwanted kids, than "hip" and taking that chance.

 

[Aunt Spiker]

On the prostitution advocacy thread, it is argued that prostitution is no different from any other business or job, and accordingly can be made both legal and entirely safe.

Is it? There are no legal jobs where a person can knowingly be exposed to diseases UNTIL there is a certain way to protect the employee. For example, employees who work with diseases in a way they could be infected in how they do so are required to wear full hazmat suits, their licensing is VERY strict, and the requirements for safety of the facility also intense.

Legalize prostitution would be the ONLY profession legalizing employees knowing being exposed to both diseases - including deadly diseases - and diseases that can be transmitted to other people, including transmitted without sex, such as TB and hepatitis. Even HIV/AIDS can be transmitted without sex in various ways.

Is there such a thing as 100% safe sex and does the number of stranger sex partners increase the likelihood of contracting a disease? Should the government obtain tax revenue by taking a cut off off of legalizing the spreading diseases?

To the bolded - the number of partners is what increases the likelihood. Not whether you know them or not. 1 partner = 1 means of exposure.

 

[Quag]

100% safe sex can be achieved but it requires 11.4 miles of saran wrap, a 5 gallon bucket of antibacterial soap, hip waders and 3 chickens.

Most folks aren't really into it but there is a website, a few underground clubs and an independent film on the subject which is supposed to come out next year.

Or some cream and your hand