How come there is no link to the article she wrote?pb, I found an article that she wrote about it instead of watching the video. She claims that the Congress never authorized The Bible and never said it should be used in schools, yes?
Does any aspect of our government come from Christianity itself as opposed to the beliefs and traditions of people who happen to be Christian?
The rights we have are there because the founders believed that the Christian God has given them to us.
WOW white people with European heritages coming from state controlled religions who would have thunk that might have had an influence on them.
In the end we are a secular nation.
I hear all the time that "this is a Christian Nation". Do you think this is so.
I am going to go ahead and say anyone who truly thinks this country was meant to be a Christian nation is a complete moron. The founding fathers were secularist, there is some evidence indicating Thomas Jefferson was at least agnostic.
" The Christian god can easily be pictured as virtually the same god as the many ancient gods of past civilizations. The Christian god is a three headed monster; cruel, vengeful and capricious. If one wishes to know more of this raging, three headed beast-like god, one only needs to look at the caliber of people who say they serve him. They are always of two classes; fools and hypocrites. To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." -Thomas Jefferson
Age of Enlightenment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaThe "Enlightenment" was not a single movement or school of thought, for these philosophies were often mutually contradictory or divergent. The Enlightenment was less a set of ideas than it was a set of values. At its core was a critical questioning of traditional institutions, customs, and morals, and a strong belief in rationality and science. Thus, there was still a considerable degree of similarity between competing philosophies.[2] Some historians also include the late seventeenth century, which is typically known as the Age of Reason or Age of Rationalism, as part of the Enlightenment; however, most historians consider the Age of Reason to be a prelude to the ideas of the Enlightenment.[3]
That is completely ridiculous!pb, I read her article....I'm sure you can find it on her site....she doesn't "destroy" David Barton at all. She agrees that Congress approved the production of the Bible. Congress also knew it was being printed in order to use in schools.
I assume you're talking about when Glenn and David showed the Bible and said, "Congress printed this Bible". Well, of course government didn't print the Bible. They misspoke there. They meant Congress APPROVED the printing. Glenn read it right off the page in the Bible. He shouldn't have said "Congress printed this Bible."
I think she's grasping at straws in order to find just SOMETHING to complain about. And if you call that "destroying" David Barton....that's just ridiculous.
They didn't misspeak, the point that the Bible was printed by Congress was made more than once. In the video Glenn Beck says emphatically that the Bible was "PRINTED BY CONGRESS, BY CONGRESS!!!"I assume you're talking about when Glenn and David showed the Bible and said, "Congress printed this Bible". Well, of course government didn't print the Bible. They misspoke there. They meant Congress APPROVED the printing. Glenn read it right off the page in the Bible. He shouldn't have said "Congress printed this Bible."
Congress also knew it was being printed in order to use in schools.
There are many versions of this story floating around, all worded to mislead that Congress either requested the printing of the Bibles, granted Aitken permission to print them, contracted him to print them, paid for the printing, or had Bibles printed for the use of schools. Congress did none of these things. All they did was grant one of several requests made by Aitken by having their chaplains examine his work, and allowing him to publish their resolution stating that, based on the chaplains' report, they were satisfied that his edition was accurate. The words "a neat edition of the Holy Scriptures for the use of schools" are taken from a letter written by Aitken,(8) not the resolution of Congress.
The actual resolution is edited in various ways. The purpose of this editing is to omit that Congress also had a secular reason for recommending Aitken's Bible, and, in most cases, to turn the resolution into a recommendation of the Bible itself, rather than a recommendation of the accuracy of Aitken's work.
Whereupon, Resolved, That the United States in Congress assembled, highly approve the pious and laudable undertaking of Mr. Aitken, as subservient to the interest of religion as well as an instance of the progress of arts in this country, and being satisfied from the above report, of his care and accuracy in the execution of the work, they recommend this edition of the Bible to the inhabitants of the United States, and hereby authorise him to publish this recommendation in the manner he shall think proper.(9)
I hear all the time that "this is a Christian Nation". Do you think this is so.
I am going to go ahead and say anyone who truly thinks this country was meant to be a Christian nation is a complete moron. The founding fathers were secularist, there is some evidence indicating Thomas Jefferson was at least agnostic.
" The Christian god can easily be pictured as virtually the same god as the many ancient gods of past civilizations. The Christian god is a three headed monster; cruel, vengeful and capricious. If one wishes to know more of this raging, three headed beast-like god, one only needs to look at the caliber of people who say they serve him. They are always of two classes; fools and hypocrites. To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." -Thomas Jefferson
Religions raise and contribute billions of dollars to the problems of poverty and illness on this planet. They educate children. They practically single handedly take care of AIDS patients in most cities, providing medicine and shelter for them. They throw great parties like Mardi Gras and Christmas.
Why would anybody hate religion?
I think you would be surpised at just how many of them thought that religion was a bad thing.
No doubt. Religions, with all of their wars and such, do MUCH more good than harm. Especially Christians here in America. It is just like the America-bashers out there that totally discount that the USA gives more aid to the world than all the other nations of the Earth combined.
There have been far more wars fought for other than religious reasons than there have been for religious reasons.
I disagree. Almost every war, genocid etc has religious implications from the Inquisition to the conquering of the New World. Bosnia. Israel/Arabs. The Crusades. Rwanda. First Peloponnesian War. Protostant/Catholic wars, Muslim/Christian wars... etc. The basis is that one group is attacking another based off of a difference in religion. Even the War on Terror is a religious one. The US Civil War was not, many are not... but most are. Sure, money, land and other factors can and generally are a major reason, but they are only reasons used as excuses to attack those people with differering religious views.
This is a tangent argument though...
I'm sorry you think quotes from our Founders are "crap". Maybe you should read them sometime instead of just basing your opinions on your own feelings.
Religions raise and contribute billions of dollars to the problems of poverty and illness on this planet. They educate children. They practically single handedly take care of AIDS patients in most cities, providing medicine and shelter for them. They throw great parties like Mardi Gras and Christmas.
Why would anybody hate religion?
That is completely ridiculous!
They didn't misspeak, the point that the Bible was printed by Congress was made more than once. In the video Glenn Beck says emphatically that the Bible was "PRINTED BY CONGRESS, BY CONGRESS!!!"
Excerpt from Chris Rodda's article on Huffpo:
The following is the entire resolution:
You can read the entire article at the Huffington Post:
Chris Rodda: No, Mr. Beck, Congress Did Not Print a Bible for the Use of Schools
Oh trust me I know all about our founding Fathers and have sense enough to know that some were Agnostic and some were Deists.
Also all one must do is read the Federalist Papers to see the answer to this question is no.
I just don't understand where the morons who want prayer in public school and their ten commandments on federal property get this Idea that it is what America was built for. I mean a quick glance at some quotes from the founding fathers and they will see they very much despised the bible and the church.
Fabulous! I'll await your dissertation on exactly who was agnostic and who was a Deist since you "know all about our founding Fathers".
And I take it you think none were Christians?
Even if half of the founding fathers were devout Christians, that would not be enough for America to have been firmly established as a Christian nation. Every founding father would have been required to be Christian if the U.S. was intended to be a Christian nation.
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