MaggieD
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Possible? yes, likely no!I don't. Even if someone got on the plane with a gun? I think he'd better have at least a half-dozen accomplices with him.
Hopefully, pilots are instructed NEVER to open the cockpit doors regardless of loss of life. It's my understanding that, when pilots leave the cockpit, the flight attendants lock their serving trays in place at the front of the aisle which would mean no rushing the door; but having to vault the trays. I understand they are heavily enforced and that many pilots have sidearms.
Further, I don't think passengers would sit as sheep anymore.
What do you think?
Absolutely. The highjackers wouldn't even need to be on board.
Let's say I've dropped off a suitcase nuke in lower Manhattan and I call up the authorities and tell them that I want flight 1234 to head for Damascus instead of Heathrow. If the plane doesn't comply I'm going to blow up lower Manhattan. Do you figure they'd redirect the flight?
I don't. Even if someone got on the plane with a gun? I think he'd better have at least a half-dozen accomplices with him.
Hopefully, pilots are instructed NEVER to open the cockpit doors regardless of loss of life. It's my understanding that, when pilots leave the cockpit, the flight attendants lock their serving trays in place at the front of the aisle which would mean no rushing the door; but having to vault the trays. I understand they are heavily enforced and that many pilots have sidearms.
Further, I don't think passengers would sit as sheep anymore.
What do you think?
I don't. Even if someone got on the plane with a gun? I think he'd better have at least a half-dozen accomplices with him.
Hopefully, pilots are instructed NEVER to open the cockpit doors regardless of loss of life. It's my understanding that, when pilots leave the cockpit, the flight attendants lock their serving trays in place at the front of the aisle which would mean no rushing the door; but having to vault the trays. I understand they are heavily enforced and that many pilots have sidearms.
Further, I don't think passengers would sit as sheep anymore.
What do you think?
By the time the 4th plane was hijacked people were no longer going to sit like sheep.I don't. Even if someone got on the plane with a gun? I think he'd better have at least a half-dozen accomplices with him.
Hopefully, pilots are instructed NEVER to open the cockpit doors regardless of loss of life. It's my understanding that, when pilots leave the cockpit, the flight attendants lock their serving trays in place at the front of the aisle which would mean no rushing the door; but having to vault the trays. I understand they are heavily enforced and that many pilots have sidearms.
Further, I don't think passengers would sit as sheep anymore.
What do you think?
By the time the 4th plane was hijacked people were no longer going to sit like sheep.
I think the first couple planes full of people just thought, "hey, a trip to Cuba. Nice". Then the plane turned around.
I don't. Even if someone got on the plane with a gun? I think he'd better have at least a half-dozen accomplices with him.
Hopefully, pilots are instructed NEVER to open the cockpit doors regardless of loss of life. It's my understanding that, when pilots leave the cockpit, the flight attendants lock their serving trays in place at the front of the aisle which would mean no rushing the door; but having to vault the trays. I understand they are heavily enforced and that many pilots have sidearms.
Further, I don't think passengers would sit as sheep anymore.
What do you think?
Anybody flying today is already a victim. Coast-to-coast is pretty much torture. I fly maybe six times a year, seven times a year. Air travel ain't what it used to be. If you can make it past the seat grabbers, screaming children, the airplane farters, and the cell phone talkers there is no way you are going to "sit back and enjoy the flight." There's no way terrorists want to spend the last 4 hours of their lives licking their own knees while folded into a seat on a cross country flight.
Terrorists know this. Fliers are no longer docile and compliant. Air travelers fly pissed off and stay pissed off for days after a flight. The hijackers would never be able to pull it off today. Hell, first class alone would rip them to shreds while those in coach would be screaming for blood.
Absolutely. The highjackers wouldn't even need to be on board.
Let's say I've dropped off a suitcase nuke in lower Manhattan and I call up the authorities and tell them that I want flight 1234 to head for Damascus instead of Heathrow. If the plane doesn't comply I'm going to blow up lower Manhattan. Do you figure they'd redirect the flight?
Anybody flying today is already a victim. Coast-to-coast is pretty much torture. I fly maybe six times a year, seven times a year. Air travel ain't what it used to be. If you can make it past the seat grabbers, screaming children, the airplane farters, and the cell phone talkers there is no way you are going to "sit back and enjoy the flight." There's no way terrorists want to spend the last 4 hours of their lives licking their own knees while folded into a seat on a cross country flight.
Terrorists know this. Fliers are no longer docile and compliant. Air travelers fly pissed off and stay pissed off for days after a flight. The hijackers would never be able to pull it off today. Hell, first class alone would rip them to shreds while those in coach would be screaming for blood.
Anybody flying today is already a victim. Coast-to-coast is pretty much torture. I fly maybe six times a year, seven times a year. Air travel ain't what it used to be. If you can make it past the seat grabbers, screaming children, the airplane farters, and the cell phone talkers there is no way you are going to "sit back and enjoy the flight." There's no way terrorists want to spend the last 4 hours of their lives licking their own knees while folded into a seat on a cross country flight.
Terrorists know this. Fliers are no longer docile and compliant. Air travelers fly pissed off and stay pissed off for days after a flight. The hijackers would never be able to pull it off today. Hell, first class alone would rip them to shreds while those in coach would be screaming for blood.
not with box cutters
Personally I'd go for even greater separation between the flight crew and the passenger compartment by giving them a dedicated crew door and put a solid bulk head between the cockpit and the passengers. That would be for new designs - retrofitting is probably impossible.
but those 5-6 hour direct flights from Huntsville to El Paso are murder.
Actually all plastic cutters and knives are available to day. Plastic, carbon fiber and other lamanants are out there now. And can hold an edge very well.
Are you talking about a different huntsville or a different el paso? Because that shouldn't be anywhere near a 5-6 hour flight.
I'm including the time you sit on the plane. yeah, actual flight time is only around 3.5 hours. but you get on the plane and sit there for 45 minutes before they close the doors and then you taxi and sit for another 10 minutes. then you land and it takes you another 30 minutes to get off the damn plane.
I'd sooner stick a needle in my eye than fly today. Last flight I took was hours late...one end of O'Hare Airport to another for connections with minutes to spare...never again. I'll drive. But I'm lucky enough that I have the time to do that.
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